94impreza

lol now there's 2.
Both of you are on the ITR forum aren't you?.
I posted in response to what somone else said about confusing handling and grip, nothing to do with ITR's nothing to do with scoobs. Chris then came along, has posted many a reply in trying to get a reaction.

Chris seems intent to prove every element of the ITr is superior to an impreza. I really couldn't give a **** how good his car is. Yes its the other marques section, and he has a right to tell us about his car, but this is now the second post in a month about how great it is.
If an M3 owner posted week in week out about how great his car was on an impreza forum it wouldn't take long before people got a bit annoyed.

If i came on the ITR forum going on about how fantastic my car is maybe everyone would be cool about it. If i did it again a week later most people would say "**** off onto scoobynet m8!".

I like my car, i don't bang on about how great it is every few days and i don't feel like i have anything to prove. Well done Chris, you've got a lovely car m8 and i hope you live happiliy ever after.

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iTrader: (2)

Thankyou very much. You see, there was no need to throw your dummy out of the pram!

94impreza

Please tell us how great your car is again, we impreza drivers love hearing about it and its at least 5 minutes since you last started a thread. "3 weeks, 22hrs of owning an ITR".

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You wouldn't understand mate. With you lot, its all 4wd and turbo chargers. I know, I USED TO OWN FOR 3 YEARS!
You really are helping to contribute to the already tarnished reputation of impreza owners.
It's a shame, because they are bl*ody good cars.

94impreza

Quote something i haven't said again .

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iTrader: (2)

Please direct me to a thread on ITR-DC2 or here where I have 'trolled'?.
You on the other hand....have you got 4 hours?
You wound quite a few people up on there too. The only person I seemed to have annoyed, is you!

94impreza

I can't be bothered lol, thanks though you have entertained me this morning. You've given quite a few of us "elsewhere" a good laugh.

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And then you edit your posts to remove the lie.

Right, lets clear this up:
:engine braking:
You said, and I quote,

'as i've said engine breaking compensates for a competent driver, a higher revving engine with a lighter crank wouldn't really benefit from the same.'

'Chris engine braking is coming to a corner dropping down a gear or 2 to put more pressure on the engine thus slowing down. If a car is rev-happy and is constantly redlined just to get anywhere i highly doubt there would be any engine braking at all. A less revvy engine is going to slow a lot quicker, simple. Besides its fairly easy and fairly common to upgrade your scoobs brakes, its not really a major issue.'

Ever heard of 'heal and toe'. A driver needs to match the engine speed to the wheel speed quickly as he changes down. A heavy flywheel will make more difficult.

Spare parts:
'You also need to consider if something went wrong with your scoob there are so many breakers with scrapped scoobs, i think you'd struggle to find a second hand part for an ITR in comparison to a scoob.'

So an Impreza is cheaper to run than an Integra? Yea right.

Tyre foot print:
'For example a 4wd distributes its power through 4 wheels whatever the ratio front to back, therefore has a bigger tyre footprint and is less likely to lose grip under acceleration than a similar powered car, with similar sized tyres thats either fwd or rwd.'

I agree with the more grip under acceleration, but correct if i'm wrong, don't most cars have 4 wheels, giving a very similar 'foot-print'?

Car weight:
'Ermmm have a think about that for a minute. Might not be good for handling but its definately better for grip. 300BHP car weighing 1000kg would be more likely to spin than a 1500kg with the same power.'

So a heavier car will have more grip in a corner than a light one?

Really 94impreza, go away, read up on chassis dynamics, then come back.

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jonc

Like wise of yourself, your understanding of chassis dynamics and handling is a joke. Perhaps you should change your name to "ImprezaLover"!

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Mike123

This is the Autocar opinion on it for interest - the second paragraph especially

GREEDO

As a die-hard scooby fan(on no 9) i am gobsmacked with the whole write up. Sounds virtually to good to be true. Even without ever driving a teg i am hooked,for exactly the same reasons as Chris.
I do numerous trackdays donno/oulton,so would this car be able to step forward for the task even in standard form?
Is the dc2 different in any way to a standard teg R. spec ect.
Out of curiosity what is chance of any one wanting to swap their dc2 for my96 sensibly modded wrx.Endless spec,paperwork. vgc. 343bhp/330ftlb.70k.
Any feedback to above,much appreciated.

TaffyB

chris,

Regardless of all the banter thats being going on, i've read all your threads on the subject of your Teg from before you bought it up to now.

Just wanted to thank you for doing them & to keep them coming. I've learnt a lot about the teg, value your opinion & overall has made me seriously consider my next car to be a Teg.

Cheers

Brent

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No problem mate!
Thats the problem I had when considering the swap. Although some people on this site had gone a similar way, nobody had done a direct comparison.
When I put the scoob on piston heads, I really didn't expect it to fetch what I advertised it for. When the call came, I didn't have very long to decide, and there were very few cars that appealed to me.
I tried one Integra at a car dealers and it was a big let down. Oil hadn't been changed for 20k, it had done 88000miles and he wanted £8000 for it!

Feeling quite disheartened, I forced myself to try another, which turned out to be less than a mile away from where I live.
Although the exterior was very tatty and having the famous 'synchro cruch' in 5th, it drove incredibly well. So well infact that I ended up parting with my scooby.

Managed to get a mint 98 dc2 uk in championship white for £6500, although I had to travel 200miles up to birmingham to get it.

My advice would be to try a few, not just one. The most common fault is the synchro crunch. 3rd and 5th gear seem to be the main culprits and it won't usually happen until your at 7000rpm+. This can be sorted though with a gear oil change (landrover stock the correct oil, 3 litres of MTF94 for £20!), although always be awear that it may need a new synchro, which cost around £500 fitted.

A good place for info is Integra Type R Forum.
If you need anymore advice, don't hesitate to pm me.

///\oo/\\\

In very wet and bumpy conditions, at 8,000 RPM you'd get some torque steer, yes.

With a mechanical diff, its inevitable

GREEDO

Anyone??????????

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iTrader: (2)

Not sure what you're asking. My integra model is a DC2 Integra Type R.
Then there is the DC5 Integra Type R which was made from 2001 and was import only.

94impreza

Care to elaborate?.....

///\oo/\\\

94

Please, give it up

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iTrader: (2)

Not again!

94impreza

If someone says "you don't know nuffin..!" then it should be backed up with why. If anyone cares to point out anything i have said on this thread which is wrong, and explain why then thats cool. Being misquoted as saying i'm a scoobylover shows his lack of intelligence, only nerds misquote.
Simply saying "Your wrong.." doesn't take much. I'm open to criticism and if i'm wrong i'd like to learn whats right.

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iTrader: (2)

Please read post no.68!
Unlike you, I am able to back up my claims of 'YOU KNOW NOTHING!'

94impreza

Lol who's talking to you?

jonc

Please read post no.68!

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Ignorance is bliss, as they say.

94impreza

This is a Subaru forum. For some reason you seem compelled to constantly talk your car up, which i have no problem with, but you are constantly comparing it to your old scoob, WHY?.
It sounds as though your happy with your car, it sounds as though it does a lot for you. PLease find where i have compared scoob/itr on this thread? Yet you seem intent on comparing.

As this is a Subaru forum, as the ITR forum is obvioulsy for ITR's why not talk about this on a remote forum rather than one or the other.
FAO ChrisPurvess100

Can i also ask why you've put a youtube video of an ITR's rev-counter and speedo on a rolling road?.

TopBanana

This is the 'other marques' forum ********. And it seems perfectly logical to describe the car in a context which most people here are familiar with.

94impreza

When have i disagreed with that? Doing it every few weeks though is just overkill and looks from an outsider to be just trying to over-emphasise a point.

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I posted when I first got the integra, and then week into ownership, which is when I atleast, would start to notice any short comings. And surely, having come from 2 imprezas, and this being an Impreza site, it seems logical to compare the 2. What should I compare it to, a tree?

Don't you remember comparing your impreza to the integra when you were considering getting one?
You ARE in the MINORITY with your views 94 Impreza, so please stop 'digging' yourself any deeper than you already have.

As numerous people have said, this is the 'Other Marques' section (that means cars other than subaru! ), so what is wrong with me posting in this section? This is the sort of thing I was looking for when considering the swap.
Believe it or not, few people on the ITR site, have gone from an Impreza to an Integra, so I couldn't find any decent comparisions.

To any normal forum user, this would make sense, but I'm sure you will pick holes in what I have said.

And as for South East Mods :: View topic - FAO ChrisPurvis100 , you really are making yourself look like a tit! YOU ARE THE ONE GOING ON ABOUT IT, not me!
You say you are not a troll.......well stop acting like one!

TaffyB

as it didnt come up on this post & chris is somehow still getting grief for this thread, thought i might as well repeat myself.

Thanks chris for posting this thread, it has been very helpful & not only have learnt some facts about the teg, i've got an honest opinion from an impreza owner who has made the move.

In my opinion, i feel topics like this, where yeah to some extent a comparison has been made from the scoob to another car, are very important & helpful. Granted i'm only speaking for myself here, but i would like know if i change from my scoob to another car, am i going to be disappointed & regret the change or chuffed to beans that i've done it.

So all in all chris, good on yah & thanks, you've given me the reassurance that making the move is certainly not a negative.

As for "94impreza", this really hurts for me to have to say this as i am as patriotic as the next welshman (actually hoping your not welsh now), freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, just as the freedom to shut up & stop trying to get reactions from people just to try & make yourself look good (which from what i can gather, dont always go well).

If you are enjoying the banter, then bicker away, if not just ignore him then he'll go away.