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Old 05 March 2007, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Which court is it Liz?
in Macc

on Hibel Rd
Old 05 March 2007, 12:09 PM
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Not that I've ever had a fine or had to deal with something like this - but surely they send them registered post/recorded delivery? If not that, surely they must have attempted to call you to court before sending the police around with a warrant (which would seem pretty last ditch to me).

If you've never signed for reciept for any fine demand or court summons then isn't that proof? Or at least lack of proof that you had anything to do with the vehicle?
Old 05 March 2007, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Prasius
Not that I've ever had a fine or had to deal with something like this - but surely they send them registered post/recorded delivery? If not that, surely they must have attempted to call you to court before sending the police around with a warrant (which would seem pretty last ditch to me).

If you've never signed for reciept for any fine demand or court summons then isn't that proof? Or at least lack of proof that you had anything to do with the vehicle?
they said that i wud ov ad letters through the post about it

which i havnt

its also been to court once in Rougley

so i dont know

untill i get to court at 1pm i dunno
Old 05 March 2007, 12:13 PM
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Have you had any other items about this car sent to you before – speeding tickets etc..?

For a warrant to be issued, it means that you (or whoever was committing the offence) has not appeared at court when previously asked to do so. The court case will be about the original offence, which the court needs to satisfy itself that it was you that has committed. Therefore they will need proof (eg photos, witness statements etc) otherwise they cannot find you guilty. Speak to the duty solicitor and they can do the running around for you at court – they get paid enough.

When you sold the car, did you send off the slip to DVLA to say you are no longer the keeper..?
Old 05 March 2007, 12:14 PM
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Just hang on before you go anywhere Liz

what time you going?

I'm on the phone to them as we speak
or should i say waiting
Old 05 March 2007, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Have you had any other items about this car sent to you before – speeding tickets etc..?

For a warrant to be issued, it means that you (or whoever was committing the offence) has not appeared at court when previously asked to do so. The court case will be about the original offence, which the court needs to satisfy itself that it was you that has committed. Therefore they will need proof (eg photos, witness statements etc) otherwise they cannot find you guilty. Speak to the duty solicitor and they can do the running around for you at court – they get paid enough.

When you sold the car, did you send off the slip to DVLA to say you are no longer the keeper..?
12 years ago wen i got rid ov it you didnt av to do that

log book was just handed over

i have had nothin through the post over this car

thats if it is the car im thinking of
they said it was for it having no tax on it

im not so sure it is im just guessing

Old 05 March 2007, 12:17 PM
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Liz just spoke to them

she said get a little bit earlier if you wish to speak top a Duty Solicitor and then you will have to go in and explain the situation.

i really dont think you have a problem
Old 05 March 2007, 12:20 PM
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That’s probably it then – the car is still registered in your name for some reason.

Prasius is right as well – a warrant is normally the last in a line of posted court dates etc – you’re certain you have had nothing sent….

Have they said what the original offence is for – it should say on the warrant
Old 05 March 2007, 12:23 PM
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Remember as well, the warrant isn’t the issue – the court case concerns whatever the original offence is about. This is the part in which they have to prove it was you.
Old 05 March 2007, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by stressymare
in Macc

on Hibel Rd
Are you going to be joining all them shell-suited pikey scummers hanging out on the front steps having a *** then I wish them railings weren't there, otherwise a carefully driven artic could wipe Macc's burglary problems out at a stroke

What the coppers told you is bollox BTW, the onus is not on you to prove you didn't own the car, It's up to the prosecution to prove that you did Despite David Blindcnut's best efforts 'Innocent until proven guilty' is still the basic tenet of law in the UK Unless you get caught by a Scamera obviously
Old 05 March 2007, 12:24 PM
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Cheif just found out for me the make an model

its not even the car i was thinking of

i dont know wot it is


Old 05 March 2007, 12:27 PM
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What was the offence on the warrant
Old 05 March 2007, 12:28 PM
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You know it f**king stinks this - sending 2 big burly coppers around to issue a warrent to a women with a child that has not owned this bloody vehicle for donkeys years.

(nowt against coppers just the bloody system)
Old 05 March 2007, 12:30 PM
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crazy world, hope it goes well for you.
Old 05 March 2007, 12:32 PM
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How did you know they were 2 big burley coppers?

And do you think they know who is going to be at the address when they arrive if they have not met beofre...?
Old 05 March 2007, 12:35 PM
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Carl do you think that i wud be bothered by two coppers at my door ????

come on you shud know me better then that



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Old 05 March 2007, 12:38 PM
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2 things, if you were down as the owner then surely you would have recieved tax renewal notices etc.
2nd thing, the name on the log book is not neccessarily the owner. I am sure it says that on logbooks.
Old 05 March 2007, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
Are you going to be joining all them shell-suited pikey scummers hanging out on the front steps having a *** then I wish them railings weren't there, otherwise a carefully driven artic could wipe Macc's burglary problems out at a stroke

What the coppers told you is bollox BTW, the onus is not on you to prove you didn't own the car, It's up to the prosecution to prove that you did Despite David Blindcnut's best efforts 'Innocent until proven guilty' is still the basic tenet of law in the UK Unless you get caught by a Scamera obviously

im goin in disguise ( dressed like a chav )

hope my car will be ok parked up near there


Old 05 March 2007, 12:46 PM
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The way it could happen is that someone else acquires the vehicle and changes the address to a fictitious one. Therefore any fines, court summons etc. will go to this made up address. Eventually a warrant is issued to the registered keeper – which on paper is still Stressymare. This then gets passed to the police who check to address and find it to be false. They will then do checks on the name and establish the correct address. Turn up and execute the warrant.
Old 05 March 2007, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
The way it could happen is that someone else acquires the vehicle and changes the address to a fictitious one. Therefore any fines, court summons etc. will go to this made up address. Eventually a warrant is issued to the registered keeper – which on paper is still Stressymare. This then gets passed to the police who check to address and find it to be false. They will then do checks on the name and establish the correct address. Turn up and execute the warrant.
No sh*t Sherlock
Old 05 March 2007, 01:05 PM
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Well as hard as Liz is - i bet her knees are knocking now.

we should start a 'free the macclesfield one thread'
Old 05 March 2007, 01:13 PM
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The reality is all they do is make sure you go to a police station and then usually arrange for a payment plan.
Old 05 March 2007, 01:22 PM
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fecking hell liz - I thought this was a wind up

take them to the cleaners once they realise they have cocked up
Old 05 March 2007, 01:30 PM
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Sounds like an inputting error at DVLA if anything, seems to be happening alot recently.

Best thing you can do is contact the courts etc like everyone has said.

But for them to say you have to prove you never owned the car, thats wrong, the law states "Innocent until proven guilty", like its been said, THEY have to prove YOU owned the car first, not the other way round.

I've been through this alot when someone I knew (I wasn't friends with this person, but they live close to me and know my name etc) was buying cars at auction in my name and running them with no tax or insurance etc, I've never bought a car at auction ever. After talking to the Police and frankly getting nowhere (They said I had to go this guys house and get a picture of him driving the cars!) I contacted the auctions around West Yorkshire and put a block on my name and address. Its not happened since to me but I bet it happens more than we know.
Old 05 March 2007, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt_Rich
But for them to say you have to prove you never owned the car, thats wrong, the law states "Innocent until proven guilty", like its been said, THEY have to prove YOU owned the car first, not the other way round.
That went out a long time ago. In this country you are guilty until proven innocent these days.
Old 05 March 2007, 01:46 PM
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Couldnt be a clone car could it that way it would come back to liz

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Old 05 March 2007, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
That went out a long time ago. In this country you are guilty until proven innocent these days.
Yeah, unfortunately I have to agree with you. I was trying to kid myself but it does say it in the law books still (assumption) and I'm sure a good solicitor could use the phrase in your favour, when their on your side of course. lol
Old 05 March 2007, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by stressymare
im goin in disguise ( dressed like a chav )

hope my car will be ok parked up near there


Will it ****

Go up Beech Lane and do a left onto Coare Street. It'll be safer parked there

How do I know that
Old 05 March 2007, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Well as hard as Liz is - i bet her knees are knocking now.

we should start a 'free the macclesfield one thread'
Is you a fellow Maccite too Chief
Old 05 March 2007, 02:39 PM
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I as once phoned by my Mum to tell me that there was a police van there to arrest me for failure to attend court. I never received a summons or anything , it was for forgetting to produce my documents. Had to go to court next day, produced my documents and they let me go.


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