Toni Coma - Victim or Scumbag?
09 March 2007, 04:07 PM
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If the punching was so out of order, why does not one of the other coppers even flinch, or stop him?
It was justified. Fact
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It was justified. Fact
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09 March 2007, 04:09 PM
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there's tea all over my chuffing laptop now
09 March 2007, 04:17 PM
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I'm not sure I agree with all of this - from watching the video a couple of times it looks like she was well and truely subdued by three officers by the time the punches went in. Frankly it just looks like he decided to get his own back for the earlier struggle. He has been removed from front-line duties so the IPCC must think there is something in it, especially after he admitted he hit as hard as he possibly could.
So it doesn't matter if 3 others are holding her down if she already has a grip on him.Standard procedure when any work related problem to suspend the employee with pay - not because there is something in it
They probably should have just set the dog on her although it might have got rabies.
09 March 2007, 07:30 PM
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For those that missed it the first time: all that needs to be said on the subject really! 
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09 March 2007, 09:06 PM
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To my Brother & Sisters,
Toni has done wrong, she has held her hands up and admitted to her acts of crime. Her behaviour was disgraceful, intoxicated under the influence of alcohol or not, her actions were inapproriate.
However lets not confuse or over complicate the issue at hand with racial undertones. This is NOT a case of white or black. This is singularly a case of right and wrong.
A drunk, young lady, was assaulted by a policeman numerous of times. This is a crime. His physical aggression has not been justified! Not even bouncers will get as violent in similiar situations, so why do some people allow it from a police officer?
Most people have had drunk scuffles, and ended up being arrested. Would you not want to see a officer disciplined if you were assaulted numerous times, for no apparent reason.
The police are not above the law. Lets not get dazed by this fact, just because the victim herself commited a crime beforehand.
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Toni has done wrong, she has held her hands up and admitted to her acts of crime. Her behaviour was disgraceful, intoxicated under the influence of alcohol or not, her actions were inapproriate.
However lets not confuse or over complicate the issue at hand with racial undertones. This is NOT a case of white or black. This is singularly a case of right and wrong.
A drunk, young lady, was assaulted by a policeman numerous of times. This is a crime. His physical aggression has not been justified! Not even bouncers will get as violent in similiar situations, so why do some people allow it from a police officer?
Most people have had drunk scuffles, and ended up being arrested. Would you not want to see a officer disciplined if you were assaulted numerous times, for no apparent reason.
The police are not above the law. Lets not get dazed by this fact, just because the victim herself commited a crime beforehand.
Good shall prosper
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09 March 2007, 09:22 PM
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09 March 2007, 09:24 PM
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09 March 2007, 09:31 PM
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to be honest i think she got what she deserved im sure if it was the other way round and a bloke had grabbed her by the privates im sure she would act the same this is nothing to do with being black or white it was self defence i would of kicked **** out of her if she did that to me.
09 March 2007, 09:32 PM
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""She is obviously a stupid cow, but you can't have policmen punching people""
Now im not a big fan the police, but at times they are worth there while. He only tried to arrest her to get her off the streets before any more damaged occured.
Althought I totally agress with the above quote.
She deserved everything she got, How would you feel if she tried to bite/scratch your ***** off.
Personally I would pulled all her teeth and nails and still punched her five times!!!!!
We need to start a petition for the PC!!!!!!
Now im not a big fan the police, but at times they are worth there while. He only tried to arrest her to get her off the streets before any more damaged occured.
Althought I totally agress with the above quote.
She deserved everything she got, How would you feel if she tried to bite/scratch your ***** off.
Personally I would pulled all her teeth and nails and still punched her five times!!!!!
We need to start a petition for the PC!!!!!!
Last edited by Albert47; 09 March 2007 at 09:40 PM.
09 March 2007, 09:39 PM
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This happened last July.
She was so off her face that the first time she saw the vid was in the Courtroom under oath.
If it had been such an issue this would have come out months ago!!!!
You do the crime, then do the time.
Bring on ID cards, CCTV and Chips implanted under our skin.
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She was so off her face that the first time she saw the vid was in the Courtroom under oath.
If it had been such an issue this would have come out months ago!!!!
You do the crime, then do the time.
Bring on ID cards, CCTV and Chips implanted under our skin.
BB is watching
09 March 2007, 09:40 PM
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I thought MLK spoke for himself rather well.
Do you - in fact - think it was actually a "racist cop" issue, and are going to bring this in at a later point?
09 March 2007, 09:44 PM
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Just imagine the outcry in the "general" section if the car she kicked in was an Impreza belonging to someone on here.
Page one would be fully of obscenities aimed at her (her?!?!) and page 2 would be full of well wishers to the owner saying "gutted mate". What? Like a fish? LOL
Page one would be fully of obscenities aimed at her (her?!?!) and page 2 would be full of well wishers to the owner saying "gutted mate". What? Like a fish? LOL
09 March 2007, 09:48 PM
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09 March 2007, 09:55 PM
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My Brother and Sisters lets look at the facts and analyse some of the points that seem to be getting overlooked.
1. She was drunk.
On numerous occasions, I have been told by bodyguards, and bouncers, thats disposing of drunks outside of the premesis is a easy task. You dont need to get overly physical with them, as they are so intoxicated they have trouble walking and standing on their own two feet in the first place.
2. She's female.
A police officer shouldnt have too much trouble containing a drunk, let alone a drunk female. The average man is roughly twice as strong, as the average female.
3. 1 criminal, 3 police officers.
3 police officers should be able to subdue a suspect with ease. Especially a drunk female.
The end result is that we have one criminal who herself becomes a victim at the hands of the police, by one officer who uses extrovert force.
Make no mistake my brother and sisters, if a person broke into your home, and you punched them after they were subdued, you would be facing charges for your actions.
Why should a policeman be let off.
This case isnt about white or black. I beg you to look past the colour and see it for what it is. This is about police assaulting a member of public after she was subdued. The police abused their powers.
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1. She was drunk.
On numerous occasions, I have been told by bodyguards, and bouncers, thats disposing of drunks outside of the premesis is a easy task. You dont need to get overly physical with them, as they are so intoxicated they have trouble walking and standing on their own two feet in the first place.
2. She's female.
A police officer shouldnt have too much trouble containing a drunk, let alone a drunk female. The average man is roughly twice as strong, as the average female.
3. 1 criminal, 3 police officers.
3 police officers should be able to subdue a suspect with ease. Especially a drunk female.
The end result is that we have one criminal who herself becomes a victim at the hands of the police, by one officer who uses extrovert force.
Make no mistake my brother and sisters, if a person broke into your home, and you punched them after they were subdued, you would be facing charges for your actions.
Why should a policeman be let off.
This case isnt about white or black. I beg you to look past the colour and see it for what it is. This is about police assaulting a member of public after she was subdued. The police abused their powers.
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Besides, it's not how strong you are that counts in a fight, it's how far you are prepared to take it.
How would you convince someone to let go of your generative organs in that situation?
09 March 2007, 10:24 PM
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I think it is rather inappropriate for someone claiming allegiance to MLK to be defending this 'lady'. She was in the wrong and instead of holding her hands up and saying so she is claiming to be the victim. Where was her restraint when she damaged the bouncer's car? Where was her restraint when she grappled with the police officer? Believe you me she seemed to be an even match irregardless of MLK's strength ratio of male to female. Instead of making this 'lady' accountable for her actions we have an army of apologists for her shocking histrionics. Thankfully they are in the minority.
09 March 2007, 10:36 PM
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The Police are the agency that we all employ to keep the peace. Unfortunately, keeping the peace against violent, drunken offenders doesn't look pleasant on CCTV. Let them get on with it. The officer reported the fact that he'd struck the woman when she was taken into custody, and I understand that she agreed with the officer's description of the incident at the time. She was asked if she needed medical attention and it turned out not to be necessary.
It sounds like she received the pasting of her life, doesn't it?
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It sounds like she received the pasting of her life, doesn't it?
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09 March 2007, 10:38 PM
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My brother, in all honesty, going by her picture she looks like a drug fiend. However, she has been punished for her actions, and now its time for the police officer to also be punished for his inappropriate actions.
I shall defend people whenever I feel it is just. She did wrong, and the police officer did wrong. They both need disciplining, for the sake and prosperity of the rest of the nation.
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I shall defend people whenever I feel it is just. She did wrong, and the police officer did wrong. They both need disciplining, for the sake and prosperity of the rest of the nation.
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09 March 2007, 10:49 PM
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I believe he should keep his job, without dock of pay or demotion. What I would like to see is further training for the police officer to deal with such situations more professionally in the future. Suspending with, or without pay is inadequate measures in my mind, and doesnt address the problem/situation.
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He's not suspended, he's working away from the streets, isn't he? it's not a punishment. I'm finding it difficult not to become slightly vexed with you now. Even mildly tetchy.
09 March 2007, 10:49 PM
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I believe he should keep his job, without dock of pay or demotion. What I would like to see is further training for the police officer to deal with such situations more professionally in the future. Suspending with, or without pay is inadequate measures in my mind, and doesnt address the problem/situation.
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A better remedy would be to come down hard on these trouble causers. Then instead of a hefty compensation claim they would face the consequences their actions warrant.Do not ever defend those that do not deserve your compassion.
09 March 2007, 11:01 PM
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A: No investigation as to the facts of the case has been undertaken
B: No ruling has yet been made as to whether the officer is guilty of any wrongdoing.