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Old 27 August 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Splitpin
...it could result in a lot of people working on the basis of incorrect info (or being given, in completely good faith, bad advice).
Yes and this is ultimnately the reason why we're having this discussion... to make sure people get the correct info.

After all that's the whole point - or at least it should be! - of technical-based forums...
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here are the pics
http://s808.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=P8280002.jpg
http://s808.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=P8280003.jpg
http://s808.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=P8280005.jpg

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Well Splitpin, assuming Mistical's car is totally std with no changed engine etc, than I have to concede to you on both issues i.e...

(A) ...because this clearly shows a MY97/98 "phase 1.5" top-end AND EJ20G WRX motor (EVIDENTLY up to and inc. MY98)

(B) ...and further backed up by MY98 MUST be an "F", as clearly shown in the photos... (therefore the MY96 MUST indeed be a "D"; MY97 an "E"; MY99 a "G"; MY00 an "H").

Well well well... lol

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a bit OT but does all the classic shape imprezas have the green and black connectors under the steering
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a bit OT but does all the classic shape imprezas have the green and black connectors under the steering
As far as I'm aware, yes.
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ok maybe with my car they ran out of black ones and fitted white ones
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Well Splitpin, assuming Mistical's car is totally std with no changed engine etc,
Engine change or not is irrelevant. The ID plate alone tells the story.

than I have to concede to you on both issues i.e...
(A) ...because this clearly shows a MY97/98 "phase 1.5" top-end AND EJ20G WRX motor (EVIDENTLY up to and inc. MY98)
Yep. Thereby buggering 15 years worth of received wisdom at a stroke. It's all the fault of people like Long for making sweeping statments in published works that turn out to be a little less than 100% accurate!

(B) ...and further backed up by MY98 MUST be an "F", as clearly shown in the photos... (therefore the MY96 MUST indeed be a "D"; MY97 an "E"; MY99 a "G"; MY00 an "H"). Well well well... lol
This is certainly true for UK/Euro cars, so the implication is that Subaru ran a divergent model year numbering sequence. Nice of them to make it easy! Still, provided this information is picked up by others, at least it should help from this point forward.

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ok maybe with my car they ran out of black ones and fitted white ones
Have another look Mistical, they should be there. There are a couple of white connector blocks on the same loom but the black ones should be hiding away somewhere close- unless a previous owner has done something odd.

Might help to take off the lower dashboard moulding and have a good peek around with a torch.
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Originally Posted by Splitpin
Engine change or not is irrelevant. The ID plate alone tells the story...
Very true.


Damn - I daren't quote the MY 'letters' anymore, for fear of really confusing other members.

Looks like, from now on, I'll be referring to just MYs and EJ20 G/K/5 or 7 - in conjunction with the top-ends of the 3 "phases"... As well as the interior change to determine whether MY97 or MY98.

Looks like we have just enough 'cues' available to us to determine the correct model variant, without having to resort to the <ahem> 'help' of the MY 'letters'!
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Had a look and there are two green and two white connectors . anyhow, i have a my98 car with a phase 1.5 engine ? correct me if im wrong
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Originally Posted by Mistical
Had a look and there are two green and two white connectors.
The two white connectors are either junction blocks or test points - but either way you'd expect to see them. I'd still put money on the black pair being there somewhere, possibly taped up nearer the fuse board.

anyhow, i have a my98 car with a phase 1.5 engine ? correct me if im wrong
You have an MY98 European domestic market car, that much is certain. The way most people would understand it, you do have a phase 1.5 engine, yes. However, the "phase" thing was never an official Subaru designation, and given what's been turned up on this thread (i.e. that you have an "EJ20G" with central wasted spark coils, it is now a lot more difficult to accurately define than it used to be!
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Years of comfortably "established" MY ID info has been challanged in an instant! Bugger.
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well anyway thanks guys!
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Hi guys
Just saw this thread while looking for turbo info and thought i'd add my info to the letter/year saga

my car is a UK 2000 turbo registered on jan26 1996 and the applied model code is GF8DK8D
The car is a wagon, i believe it to be an original phase 1 as it has individual coil packs and a slanty intercooler

The info i'm trying to ascertain is which turbo i have?
I think! its a TD05 however due to the chimney on it i cant see the bliddy numbers too well !!
Any help gratefully received
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Yep, you have a UK Wagon... and evidently with the coilpacks on plugs/slanty IC...

This is great info and very interesting as the "D" MY code was thought to be MY97, phase 1.5, coilpack on centre of IM, etc!... SO... it would appear to further reinforce Splitpin being correct about the UK cars MY codes i.e. D being MY96 and not MY97 (unlike the JDM cars, which seem to follow: C = MY95 and 96... D = MY97... etc...)

BTW, you're correct, a phase 1 UK Wagon is fitted with the TD05H 16g weirdly enough. You can check by looking down past the side of the turbo intake hose... You should be able to see the embossed writing on the comp cover... At the vey bottom it should read "TD05H..."

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Thanks for the reply Joz.
If you need me to take any pics of the id plate/V5/coilpack (or lack thereof lol) for verification purposes,let me know and i'll see what i can do at the weekend.

As for my TD05, well i just cant see past the chimney on the top of it i,ve tried allsorts and from above and below, short of taking that chimney off which i believe is a nightmare....i'm gonna assume the info you've given me, coupled with a similar post from JGM in another thread, is correct and i have the better turbo
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Well unless Subaru had a shortfull of 05s the day your engine was built, then I suppose it could have the lesser TD04 on it.

But it should have a TD05, yes!

I've just realised, my chimney has been trimmed (because of a twin-port decat downpipe fitted)... so that may be the reason why I can now see my turbo's comp housing(?). Sorry for leading you up the garden path.

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If its a uk car on an MY00 then just look to see if it has the map lights my99's dont.

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When he said "2000" I'm sure he means UK '2000 Turbo AWD'

His is a MY96 UK car.
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Originally Posted by Splitpin
And yet, my old one had, as mentioned, the GC8HL8D applied model code, and a JF1GC8LD3YG-xxxxxx VIN - and again, character 10 is Y which equates to MY2000. It was deep blue mica (95H) too which was an MY00 only colour. I'd never assumed that MY00 was anything other than H until we started talking about it.

One possible factor is whether FHI, in their wisdom, were running different applied model year codes for different locales. For example an MY01 USDM Impreza would still be a classic shape. Could be that in JDM land the 95/96 carry-over thing applies, but on the UK/European cars, not. Might explain a thing or three.



More than possible, and complicated by lazy plagiarising authors and power of the internet to turn rumour and half-truth into bona fide fact! If nobody steps up to question something, pretty soon it's accepted whether correct or not. When were Long's and the other book published?

im from El Salvador cantral america
chek this photo fron my subaru model gc8hl8d
not be that subaru type is this
do you have potential?





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Normally, there'd be a "4" (for 4-door) in place of the "L" - if it was a JDM car.

Presumably the "L" is something to do with the fact that it's an Americas marketed car?

But in effect, it's the equivalent of a MY00 (that's what the "H" stands for) "2000 GT Turbo ". I expect it to have 215bhp/214lb ft as standard.

And I assume you or a previous owner has plonked on the STi 5 rear wing?

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It's something to do with the model Joz, but isn't a direct reference to an Americas market car. Gx8xL8D is the code applied to the European market Impreza GT AWD too. As you say it's a 2000 model year car. I daresay it's left-hand drive Erick? Incidentally, what does the sticker on the bootlid say the model is?

As said above the STi5 wing will likely have been added after the car was manufactured. Sonic Blue paintwork too - I bet there's a few folk in the UK wishing they'd been offered that colour as an option.
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...Sonic Blue paintwork too - I bet there's a few folk in the UK wishing they'd been offered that colour as an option.
Yeah, interesting point that.
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Yeah, interesting point that.
Left drive
the wing already it had espousing buys

is an sti?
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Left drive
the wing already it had espousing buys

is an sti?
No, it's definitely not an STi. The engine type, EJ205NW2KA, and gearbox type, TY754VN1AB, are exactly as you would find on a Europe-spec Impreza GT AWD, which is basically the same car as the UK Turbo 2000, just for the Europe market - so left hand drive, LHD headlights, probably a speedometer that only reads in kilos per hour. If it was an STi version 6 of any sort, it'd have an EJ207 engine.

If you lift up the carpet in the front passenger footwell, and remove the metal cover, you will probably find that the part code on the ECU is 22611AE782 (or maybe 781). If so, it's as you would find in a Europe market car of that year - and the power output will be as Joz said earlier.

If you find a different ECU code in there, let us know. Incidentally, what sort of octane rating fuel is available to you in El Salvador?
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Originally Posted by Splitpin
No, it's definitely not an STi. The engine type, EJ205NW2KA, and gearbox type, TY754VN1AB, are exactly as you would find on a Europe-spec Impreza GT AWD, which is basically the same car as the UK Turbo 2000, just for the Europe market - so left hand drive, LHD headlights, probably a speedometer that only reads in kilos per hour. If it was an STi version 6 of any sort, it'd have an EJ207 engine.

If you lift up the carpet in the front passenger footwell, and remove the metal cover, you will probably find that the part code on the ECU is 22611AE782 (or maybe 781). If so, it's as you would find in a Europe market car of that year - and the power output will be as Joz said earlier.

If you find a different ECU code in there, let us know. Incidentally, what sort of octane rating fuel is available to you in El Salvador?
the car has speedometer that only in kilos per hour.
available in El Salvador gasoline is 100 octane
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Hi i see this is a realy old post but if sum1 can help that wud b mean, I read all of this and just want to know how my model number is GF8GK8D when my car is a 1998 impreza wrx hatch and the trans type is a TY754VN1AA that I read is in a UK/Europe Impreza Turbo 2000 / GT MY99, if any 1 knows whats up with that seeing as the G is for my00 an im guessing K is for 5 but it does say K, I from New Zealand and its a jdm right hand drive any help wud b appreciated.

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From what we can ascertain, the 2000 AWD/GT spec ("...K...") market cars go:

MY94 - B
MY95 - C
MY96 - D

MY97 - E
MY98 - F

MY99 - G <<< yours
MY00 - H


And the JDM cars go:

MY93 - A
MY94 - B
MY95 - C ("C1")
MY96 - C ("C2")

MY97 - D
MY98 - E

MY99 - F
MY00 - G

Well, we think so!!!


So your car would be a MY99 (Sep 98 - Aug 99) Australasia spec "WRX" Wagon with 215bhp/214lb ft. The Australasia "WRX" is not to be confused with the higher powered JDM WRX - Subaru just decided to use the same name for the Aus/NZ market...

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thanks for that
so the engine in that wud b the EJ205?
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and I don't think its a UK version just had a look on WIKIPEDIA
and it says the jdm hatch not sedan *** with the downgraded 220 PS (161.8 kW; 217.0 bhp). and its not a Impreza GT (Europe) or Turbo 2000(UK)
jus WRX so I dont get y its G
the vin numba is JF1GF8KD3XG03####
if u can tell me anything from that
thanx
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The "K" in the 7-digit "Applied Model" code indicates that it's a non-JDM market car.

So whether it's a Aus/NZ/Eur/UK model, the mechanicals/power/torque are all the same for any given model year. There may have been a few trim changes between the various markets, but nothing major.

So yours seems to be a MY99 which, as said, should be 215bhp/214lb ft.

As you quite rightly pointed out, the JDM WRX wagon would have had 220PS (217bhp) anyway, so performance wise, there's nothing between them anyway!



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