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Old 10 March 2007, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by donnas roo
need to speek to a police officer urgently.
My best mate purchased a car from a showroom, back in july 06, it was a saxo. She has had an accident and wrote the car off 2 weeks ago.
It was her fault, the insurance has asked for all her documents, when she has checked they have given her an MOT for another car.
They have told her because it had more than 6 months on the ticket when she bought the car they wouldn't have put a 12 month ticket on it.
If this is so she has no Mot how does she stand.
She is insured and taxed, it doesn't look too good does it.
You have a PM.
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Old 10 March 2007, 10:51 AM
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If she has in her possession an MOT for another car, doesn't that point rather strongly to the fact the dealer gave her the wrong certificate? If a car with the same reg no. has been sold by that dealer (or maybe it's still on their forecourt) then it's clearly their mistake.
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Old 10 March 2007, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Brit_in_Japan
If she has in her possession an MOT for another car, doesn't that point rather strongly to the fact the dealer gave her the wrong certificate? If a car with the same reg no. has been sold by that dealer (or maybe it's still on their forecourt) then it's clearly their mistake.
Caveat emptor. The onus is on the buyer to ensure everything is in order.
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Old 10 March 2007, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by T5OLF
Ask the resident p_g............sorry special
what a grown up answer.......
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Old 10 March 2007, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by motorsportnicko
what a grown up answer.......
I konw, it does get boring at times
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Old 10 March 2007, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Caveat emptor. The onus is on the buyer to ensure everything is in order.
surely an MOT must exist for the car if it is taxed
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Old 10 March 2007, 02:59 PM
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Send the MOT she has off to the Insurance company.... It worked on her !
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Old 10 March 2007, 06:01 PM
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Presuming they did complete an mot for the car and it just got lost or given to someone else you should be able to get a duplicate and the number to call should be on any recent mot. Just a thought
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Old 10 March 2007, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 3times
it will give the insurance company an excuse not to pay out.
No it won't

Only if something went wrong with the car that then caused it to crash can they not pay out, even then this would have to be something that would have been picked up during the MOT.

What it will allow them to do is offer a lower settlement for the car, as a car with no ticket is obviously worth less than one with.....
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Old 10 March 2007, 07:44 PM
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you can check online for tthe recent mot record for the car v easy to do, if its mot'd it will show, will also show what failed on or advisorys


once you have the mot station details you can apply to them for a duplicate
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Old 10 March 2007, 08:34 PM
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was she told what MoT was given with the car? if she was the sale of goods act (1974 i think) specifies the sale must be as described. if they said x months MoT and this would have covered her for the time of the accident then whilst she should put her hands up and say she did not check the MoT certificate is hardly grossly negligent. who on this forum can say they checked their last MoT certificate top to bottom, date, mileage, signature, date of issue etc. i would contact trading standards or CAB and quote the sale of goods act to them, then the dealer.
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Old 10 March 2007, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Sympathy
was she told what MoT was given with the car? if she was the sale of goods act (1974 i think) specifies the sale must be as described. if they said x months MoT and this would have covered her for the time of the accident then whilst she should put her hands up and say she did not check the MoT certificate is hardly grossly negligent. who on this forum can say they checked their last MoT certificate top to bottom, date, mileage, signature, date of issue etc. i would contact trading standards or CAB and quote the sale of goods act to them, then the dealer.
She was given a MOT with the car, the onus would have been on her to ensure the paperwork was correct at the time of purchase. Equally the garage could say they gave her the correct MOT at the time and claim she has no recourse for action against them. The garage does not have to prove that they are in the right in this case. It is a sad state of affairs admittedly but shows you have to go through everything with a comb.
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just check online to see if its motd, you will need the reg and the doc reference number from the v5
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Old 10 March 2007, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
She was given a MOT with the car, the onus would have been on her to ensure the paperwork was correct at the time of purchase. Equally the garage could say they gave her the correct MOT at the time and claim she has no recourse for action against them. The garage does not have to prove that they are in the right in this case. It is a sad state of affairs admittedly but shows you have to go through everything with a comb.
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I appreciate that but how can the dealer explain how she came to possess an MoT certificate for a vehicle they sold to someone else? Trading Standards would be interested in this I am sure, what happened to the owner of the other car, do they have her (possibly) valid MoT certificate? Surely worth checking out? Under the Sales of Goods Act they have fallen foul of their own legislation they ahve to adhere to and within the realms of good faith I don't think the owner can be held at fault for this oversight. I accept the dealer will be difficult but worth a bash me thinks!
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Originally Posted by Mr Sympathy
Einstein

I appreciate that but how can the dealer explain how she came to possess an MoT certificate for a vehicle they sold to someone else? Trading Standards would be interested in this I am sure, what happened to the owner of the other car, do they have her (possibly) valid MoT certificate? Surely worth checking out? Under the Sales of Goods Act they have fallen foul of their own legislation they ahve to adhere to and within the realms of good faith I don't think the owner can be held at fault for this oversight. I accept the dealer will be difficult but worth a bash me thinks!


Fair point, the garage would have to explain this as they sold the other car. Hopefully it will all come out in the wash.
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Old 10 March 2007, 09:55 PM
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With the new style mot ,any mot station( that has the computerised system ) can issue a duplicate for it as all the details of the test are stored with VOSA .
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i thought that till i tried to get a duplicate for a micra i had the other week, i was told still has to be the mot station that issued it
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Fair point, the garage would have to explain this as they sold the other car. Hopefully it will all come out in the wash.
in effect both cars have possible been sold illegally

maybe she should chuck that at the garage
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Old 10 March 2007, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
in effect both cars have possible been sold illegally

maybe she should chuck that at the garage
It would tarnish their image and perhaps put a rocket up their ****. It may have been an oversight but certainly needs redressing.
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and the local paper would be a good place to start
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Old 10 March 2007, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
and the local paper would be a good place to start
You're extremely helpful and on the ball today.
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Old 10 March 2007, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
You're extremely helpful and on the ball today.
Ya cheeky bugger !
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
You're extremely helpful and on the ball today.
i have had a busy and fulfilling day so i work better

anyway, my answers were common sense
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Old 10 March 2007, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
i have had a busy and fulfilling day so i work better

anyway, my answers were common sense
Sometimes we cannae see the wood for the trees.
I'm beginning to post in Scottish dialect.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Sometimes we cannae see the wood for the trees.
I'm beginning to post in Scottish dialect.
i get paid for less than i gave advise for
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
i get paid for less than i gave advise for
Once again in true Sara Squares fashion you've completely and utterly befuddled me.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Once again in true Sara Squares fashion you've completely and utterly befuddled me.

i know what it means
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
i know what it means
What does it mean?
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
i know what it means
Glad somebody does.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
What does it mean?
****, not again Maz - crossed in the "post" !
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