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Old 30 April 2007, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 16vmarc
Job interview on Wednesday.
whats the role as we maybe able to help you prepare for your interview?
Old 30 April 2007, 07:49 PM
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Its not CAD, its at Norwich Union. I just need to get out really as I have no future at this company. The role is Customer Service Representative, would mean dealing with customers direct. 12k just enough for the job I'm doing.
Old 30 April 2007, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray_li
Its time to move on and learn a CAD package yourself.

Companies are not keen on spending money for you to do CAD training in their time. they want people that can hit the ground running as soon as they start.

Learn CAD off your own back and start with a draughtmans role "CAD operator" as they are known today.

I started as a CAD Operator when I left uni in 2002 on £15k using AutoCAD and programming a turret press. moved on 6 months later to design using solidworks
coming out of uni and earning 15k.... what a joke. Did you study art or something?
Old 30 April 2007, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
coming out of uni and earning 15k.... what a joke. Did you study art or something?
Tell me about it 22 years old at the time earning £15k

Everybody has a degree these days. its a waste of time.

btw i studied Industrial Porduct Design
Old 01 May 2007, 07:19 AM
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I am a 55 year old Director of New Products for a large company.
Just glimpsed down this thread.
We use 6 seats of Solid Works for NPD.
The modification side of the business is a problem and so is the adnin of the CAD system and extending the Vault/library into the company here and in China.

IMHO there is good advice here on these pages.
Get a clear concise CV together, and register with agencies such as Jonathan Lee (google them)

There are openings for people at your stage, and your willingness to learn even in your own time is a good attitude.

Solid Works is fast becoming the 'norm' in design offices, learn to model well BUT to be realy useful and to get to earn reasonable money you MUST have a technical qualification to your name AND exprience.

Key is getting into the right company to start with and making your own luck.

Good luck, and i hope this helps.

Incidentally £12K is cr@p in that role, we would pay about 18K but you would need the qualifications. With those the rise in money is dramatic.
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HND/Degree engineer with SWorks experience and about 20 years experience = 28K
With greater experience, about 33K.

Graham.
Old 01 May 2007, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 911
HND/Degree engineer with SWorks experience and about 20 years experience = 28K

Graham.
Thats a bit poo poo
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Originally Posted by Ray_li
Thats a bit poo poo
way way up north out in the sticks wage maybe?
Old 01 May 2007, 05:54 PM
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No, typical West Midlands engineering company, 33K is upper quartile.
No rip-off, fair upper salary, with free private medical and 3 months notice.
Graham.
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If I went to uni and only earned around 35k I would be majorly pissed off. 21 year old gas engineers earn more than that, and they never had any student debts to contend with either.
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
If I went to uni and only earned around 35k I would be majorly pissed off. 21 year old gas engineers earn more than that, and they never had any student debts to contend with either.
what do you do for a living?
Old 01 May 2007, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray_li
what do you do for a living?
plumber and gas engineer
Old 01 May 2007, 07:39 PM
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...and part-time trolling gobsh*te...
Old 02 May 2007, 03:30 PM
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I had the interview, went quite well I think, although employers always do seem to hang on to your every word in an interview!. They asked me a few questions where theres scenarios I've been involved with and how I reacted etc. I was able to recall incidents at this job and from the shop floor. They seemed happy with what I was saying, but I didn't really expect them not to! They said they would let me know by the end of the week.

Big problem though, if they do offer me it. They said the starting salary was £10500-11000 with a pay review every 1-3 months and shares given annually. I told them what I was on now and what I expected, so theres no chance of been offered more than I'm on now I think!!! Another point is my mate started on 6k there and is now on 22k.
Old 02 May 2007, 03:35 PM
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Isn't £10500 below minimum wage ?

Normal 40 hour working week at £5.35 = £214 * 52 weeks = £11128


Or is it just less hours ?
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Normal working week 40 Hours
Old 02 May 2007, 03:47 PM
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I only work 29.5 hours lee
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thats a lot
Old 02 May 2007, 03:52 PM
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36 1/4 at moment
Old 02 May 2007, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
Isn't £10500 below minimum wage ?

Normal 40 hour working week at £5.35 = £214 * 52 weeks = £11128


Or is it just less hours ?
It may work out to around 180 days pay, if you don't include weekends and bank holidays. 10500 / 180 days / 8 hrs = £7.29 p/h
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35 hours
Old 02 May 2007, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray_li
35 hours
What do you do wed, thurs, fri?
Old 02 May 2007, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip Sengravy
What do you do wed, thurs, fri?
I do your wife on Weds and your daughter on thurs and Fri Makes up to 35 hours
Old 02 May 2007, 08:09 PM
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That stacks up, her indoors could only ever manage 1 day max of bonsai ****

Chaffed thighs from repeated use of the 1" punch
Old 03 May 2007, 12:45 PM
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Got the job.
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well done.
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Nice one. Hope you get a chance to progress.
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I'll also be saving my current employer 12k a year, everyones a winner
Old 03 May 2007, 01:01 PM
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I'm glad for you. Hope it all works out and they can find a value in you and pay you what you deserve
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Good luck and well done
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..so how many burgers are you aiming to flip per hour

Well done anyways..


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