Israel v England.
26 March 2007, 10:20 AM
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i do agree that its not working but they should be able to and if dropping lampard makes them player better yes i would drop him for gerrard but england have other problems which i have aready posted above which one of them is without micheal owen england can't score goals and england have no good wide players and no right back.
We miss Owen. Somebody who runs behind the defence. It creates space for other players. Defoe is the next best at that. With Neville injued we're light at right back also. I think Richards will become a centre back with time. His build suits that role.
26 March 2007, 11:36 AM
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...GARETH BARRY
I cannot understand why he isn't given a chance.
I personally wouldn't play him on the left of midfield as he lacks pace and think his best position is left back or on the left of a back three.
He is class, always looks comfortable with the ball and has a peach of a left foot.
26 March 2007, 12:59 PM
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Problem is there's a "World Class" striker up front who can't score in Europe or on the International stage. Last time he scored in either was 3 years ago. Dont think I need to spell out who it is.
You can't play players on reputation or potential. England need an Owen & Crouch combination. Owen for instinct and proven ability on big stage and Crouch cos its known foreign players dont know how to play him.
You can't play players on reputation or potential. England need an Owen & Crouch combination. Owen for instinct and proven ability on big stage and Crouch cos its known foreign players dont know how to play him.
26 March 2007, 01:25 PM
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The problem with England is that they only have three or four quality players. Only Gerrard, Rooney, Terry and Owen (when fit) are good enough.
McClaren has no chance because Ericsson was a much better coach and he couldn't achieve anything with this generation of players.
26 March 2007, 01:50 PM
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Lets not forget Rooney is another playing out of position, he likes to sit off or just behind the front man, not play as the front man, FFS he should have a free role, so thats Rooney, Carragher, Gerrard, Lennon, P Neville playing out of position, get that sorted before anything else
And how many passes did Rooney get from midfield, very few, if he hasn't got the tools for the job, ash1, even your demi god Crouch wouldn't have faired much better in that team with those tactics and this thread would be full of how sh*t is Crouch this morning.
And how many passes did Rooney get from midfield, very few, if he hasn't got the tools for the job, ash1, even your demi god Crouch wouldn't have faired much better in that team with those tactics and this thread would be full of how sh*t is Crouch this morning.
26 March 2007, 02:21 PM
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maybe getting rid of becks wasnt such a brill idea eh? regardless of peoples opinions on him he is still the best crosser of a ball in the world for me - saying that lennon was chucking ***** in the box all night and there was noone around!
i was upset id made the effort to turn my sky box on to watch the match at the weekend
i think we will get the result, but more importantly we need the performance in the next game against andorra
if not McClaren is going to have to bite the bullet and bring in the changes, instead of picking a team based who has the most best known surname!
think all the big names need things shaken up to wake them up to the fact there are other players from this country than can kick a ball!
i was upset id made the effort to turn my sky box on to watch the match at the weekend
i think we will get the result, but more importantly we need the performance in the next game against andorra
if not McClaren is going to have to bite the bullet and bring in the changes, instead of picking a team based who has the most best known surname!
think all the big names need things shaken up to wake them up to the fact there are other players from this country than can kick a ball!
26 March 2007, 03:09 PM
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Why should they be able to? They both want to play a very similar game. For it to work you're asking one player not to play their game which means they're not the player you're picking them for. I cant see how you can change that without creating a formation which would allow it.
So you are saying drop the player that scores the most goals for thier club and keep the one that doesn't
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Why, against a team like Israel shouldn't you have an attacking side?
26 March 2007, 03:16 PM
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You can have an attacking team but when one lesser player help nullify the effect of a better player they have to go!If England had any decent options up front then you could drop Rooney for me.
Have to say I pretty much agree with all of this article.
BBC - 606 - - A21138095 - Time to drop Lampard
26 March 2007, 03:17 PM
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We keep getting told that we have some of the best players in the world. I am yet to see it. What the heck has happened to our sportsmen over the last few years. Before this weekends game I was thinking "well it can only get better". How wrong was I!! There was no football being played by the England team this weekend. The WHOLE team need to be reminded that the object of the game is to score goals. If goals are conceeded in that process we aspire to score more.
******* SHI*E.
******* SHI*E.
26 March 2007, 03:20 PM
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Lets not forget Rooney is another playing out of position, he likes to sit off or just behind the front man, not play as the front man, FFS he should have a free role, so thats Rooney, Carragher, Gerrard, Lennon, P Neville playing out of position, get that sorted before anything else
And how many passes did Rooney get from midfield, very few, if he hasn't got the tools for the job, ash1, even your demi god Crouch wouldn't have faired much better in that team with those tactics and this thread would be full of how sh*t is Crouch this morning.
And how many passes did Rooney get from midfield, very few, if he hasn't got the tools for the job, ash1, even your demi god Crouch wouldn't have faired much better in that team with those tactics and this thread would be full of how sh*t is Crouch this morning.
Anyway, putting that aside, Mclaren was a disaster about to happen. A 2nd rate English manager. Sadly if you go bargain basement you should expect these kinds of results. His level was Boro (no offence to Boro fans). That appointment and Steve Staunton one for Ireland baffled me.
I said at the time prior Mclaren's appointment that Guus Hiddink was the best man manager and coach around. I still stand by that.
26 March 2007, 03:20 PM
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Rooney hasn't scored in 3 years of international football, you telling me he's never had a pass in all those games ? get real.
Anyway, putting that aside, Mclaren was a disaster about to happen. A 2nd rate English manager. Sadly if you go bargain basement you should expect these kinds of results. His level was Boro (no offence to Boro fans). That appointment and Steve Staunton one for Ireland baffled me.
I said at the time prior Mclaren's appointment that Guus Hiddink was the best man manager and coach around. I still stand by that.
Anyway, putting that aside, Mclaren was a disaster about to happen. A 2nd rate English manager. Sadly if you go bargain basement you should expect these kinds of results. His level was Boro (no offence to Boro fans). That appointment and Steve Staunton one for Ireland baffled me.
I said at the time prior Mclaren's appointment that Guus Hiddink was the best man manager and coach around. I still stand by that.
26 March 2007, 03:28 PM
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Gerrard plays in a lesser team but bring more to it. Gerrard is better than Lampard. It's an indisputable fact trust me You can have an attacking team but when one lesser player help nullify the effect of a better player they have to go!
If England had any decent options up front then you could drop Rooney for me.
Have to say I pretty much agree with all of this article.
BBC - 606 - - A21138095 - Time to drop Lampard
You can have an attacking team but when one lesser player help nullify the effect of a better player they have to go!If England had any decent options up front then you could drop Rooney for me.
Have to say I pretty much agree with all of this article.
BBC - 606 - - A21138095 - Time to drop Lampard
You agree with an article that says Downing or Barry should be on the left! Very good 
26 March 2007, 03:30 PM
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26 March 2007, 03:31 PM
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Ask yourself one question, if and only if we get to euro 2008, how will he cope with some stiff competition in a tournament?? can you see this guy leading us to any cup glory? I dont think so.
Time and football has moved on, those that think England should be managed by English coaches are living in dark ages.
Time and football has moved on, those that think England should be managed by English coaches are living in dark ages.
26 March 2007, 03:37 PM
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26 March 2007, 03:41 PM
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I feel we need to give the team some balance. It certainly didn't have that at all on Saturday. Gerrard was never on the right and lennon after his bright start was always cutting back in on his right because he couldn't cross with his left foot.
26 March 2007, 03:41 PM
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We keep getting told that we have some of the best players in the world. I am yet to see it. What the heck has happened to our sportsmen over the last few years. Before this weekends game I was thinking "well it can only get better". How wrong was I!! There was no football being played by the England team this weekend. The WHOLE team need to be reminded that the object of the game is to score goals. If goals are conceeded in that process we aspire to score more.
******* SHI*E.
******* SHI*E.
having some of the best players in the world doesnt make you the best team in the world though, as we prove
very few clubs in the world would turn down Terry, Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney in their club team - unfortunately none of them can play in the same team!!
we could have a much better team if we played "lesser" players imo (and i dont mean fewer in quantity lol)
so much more than ability is needed to be successful - look at Reading in the premiership!!
26 March 2007, 05:34 PM
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Back in the real world
Do you ever read anyone's responses to your posts ?? I clearly referred to the game on Saturday, you are an expert at blowing things out of proportion, no wonder you get peoples backs up.
26 March 2007, 06:25 PM
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Just watched McClaren being interviewed on Sky.
"We went to Israel to win....blah blah....The result is what matters...blah blah....of course myself and the players are disappointed....blah blah...I'm looking for a reaction on Wednesday...blah blah blah....the belief and the togetherness of the squad has never been better."
This was my favourite though;
"I don't read many newspapers"
This from the guy who sent all the sports journalists Christmas cards
He is so full of ****.
No wonder he can't motivate a team let alone pick one. At least he didn't use that fake smile though.
"We went to Israel to win....blah blah....The result is what matters...blah blah....of course myself and the players are disappointed....blah blah...I'm looking for a reaction on Wednesday...blah blah blah....the belief and the togetherness of the squad has never been better."
This was my favourite though;
"I don't read many newspapers"
This from the guy who sent all the sports journalists Christmas cards
He is so full of ****.
No wonder he can't motivate a team let alone pick one. At least he didn't use that fake smile though.
26 March 2007, 06:52 PM
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That they are better than Gerrard too
26 March 2007, 07:02 PM
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In some cases i'm glad Arsenal don't have any English players in those positions that can be as good as these 2 or this argument would be even worse
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I'm surprised though that McClaren hasn't blamed Arsenal for not having English players coming through as everyone does
.
(Why buy english when we've got Cesc,Gilberto and Diaby )
.I'm surprised though that McClaren hasn't blamed Arsenal for not having English players coming through as everyone does
.(Why buy english when we've got Cesc,Gilberto and Diaby
)