Has Scoobynet reached critical mass?
04 April 2007, 12:33 PM
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04 April 2007, 12:51 PM
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I put it down to a tiny minority of (well, one really) islamic fruitloops who monopolise every thread and ruin any attempts at discussion other members may wish to have with their divisive and bullying attitudes.
To be honest I have better things to do than subject myself to the daily rantings of religious nut cases and I suspect I may not be the only one.
To be honest I have better things to do than subject myself to the daily rantings of religious nut cases and I suspect I may not be the only one.
Trouble is he now has + membership, so it really is a case of the lunatics running the asylum. Expect to see a marked increase in Suicide Infraction.
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04 April 2007, 12:55 PM
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I put it down to a tiny minority of (well, one really) islamic fruitloops who monopolise every thread and ruin any attempts at discussion other members may wish to have with their divisive and bullying attitudes.
To be honest I have better things to do than subject myself to the daily rantings of religious nut cases and I suspect I may not be the only one.
To be honest I have better things to do than subject myself to the daily rantings of religious nut cases and I suspect I may not be the only one.
04 April 2007, 01:07 PM
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Oh come on. Moses and I are not the best of friends to be honest and I take great exception to alot of his religious/islamic rantings but to say he is the major cause of the decline on this site is not true.
I was about to exit from here when we had endless pro BNP threads and you Uncle Buck were involved in many of those. I don't want to open that can of worms again, but UB it really is a case of the kettle and the pot. As David Cameron said, BNP supporters and Islamic funds' are as bad and as poisonous as each other, I agree, and as such UB and Moses can be as bad as each other
I was about to exit from here when we had endless pro BNP threads and you Uncle Buck were involved in many of those. I don't want to open that can of worms again, but UB it really is a case of the kettle and the pot. As David Cameron said, BNP supporters and Islamic funds' are as bad and as poisonous as each other, I agree, and as such UB and Moses can be as bad as each other
04 April 2007, 01:13 PM
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The difference between the two is that moses really believes in his religion - UB just wants to do it as nobody else listened to his childish political activism for the last 30 years and he thinks this is his big moment. Both are perhaps misguided and gullible, but at least moses apologises afterwards.
04 April 2007, 01:18 PM
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Thanks. I don't expect to be here for long though. Especially as the mad mullah now has the power to 'infract'. That's like giving Iran a bomb. 
BH - added to my ever growing ignore list.
BH - added to my ever growing ignore list.
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The difference between the two is that moses really believes in his religion - UB just wants to do it as nobody else listened to his childish political activism for the last 30 years and he thinks this is his big moment. Both are perhaps misguided and gullible, but at least moses apologises afterwards.
.Moses is one of the good guys on here. His approach maybe all wrong but I believe he means well
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So moses is the cause of the downturn? He is opinionated, but so are many others. I certainly don't seem him corrupting the majority of threads. If he was such an issue then I'm sure he would have been permanently banned before the infraction system was enabled.
Perhaps it's just natural evolution that has caused a slowdown, older users have moved on to other marques and thus don't need SN any longer, or people could simply be fed up with the same old, same old threads that keep popping up, plus we add the trolls into the mix and people just cannot be bothered to view SN. It's also a chance of focus, as others have said, it's not just a subaru site any longer.
Others have said that it's possibly due to over moderation, I disagree, I think it's more a case of a lack of proper moderation for quite some time. People would be able to post and troll to their hearts content and very little was done about it. Complaints were made, but seemed to fall on deaf ears.
It does seem that there are only a few moderators who actually moderate, so I'd say most of them cannot be bothered to do it any longer, for whatever reason, and that doesn't help anyone. Users don't have any faith in the moderators doing their job, and when a thread is moderated people cry out about it as it seems like over-moderatoration, when in fact someone has actually decided to do something about a thread. Damned if you do and damned if you don't, and that could be one of the reasons for the mods not being bothered, is the abuse worth it?
The reputation system was introduced to try and aid the moderators with users policing each other, but the system was abused. Perhaps a new moderation team, who'd actually moderate, would have been better?
Then we have the infraction system, something that should have been implemented a long time ago (or something similar if that feature was not available in the forum software). Again it's there to aid the moderators, and it's not a bad system, some like it, others don't. I've made my views clear on the system in the past, so no need to waffle on about it again, apart from saying that I think it is a good step in the right direction, but it's a little late coming, plus, again, it would help if there was a larger team of very active moderators to a) use their existing abilities to delete/move/lock threads/posts, and b) use the infraction system on users.
A comment was made that another forum "sacked" all the moderators and if they didn't notice, they were not reinstated, if they did notice and wished to regain their moderator status that had to explain why, if the reasons were valid, they were reinstated, if not, they were left as they were. New moderators were recruited to fill the void and actively moderate.
Perhaps it's just natural evolution that has caused a slowdown, older users have moved on to other marques and thus don't need SN any longer, or people could simply be fed up with the same old, same old threads that keep popping up, plus we add the trolls into the mix and people just cannot be bothered to view SN. It's also a chance of focus, as others have said, it's not just a subaru site any longer.
Others have said that it's possibly due to over moderation, I disagree, I think it's more a case of a lack of proper moderation for quite some time. People would be able to post and troll to their hearts content and very little was done about it. Complaints were made, but seemed to fall on deaf ears.
It does seem that there are only a few moderators who actually moderate, so I'd say most of them cannot be bothered to do it any longer, for whatever reason, and that doesn't help anyone. Users don't have any faith in the moderators doing their job, and when a thread is moderated people cry out about it as it seems like over-moderatoration, when in fact someone has actually decided to do something about a thread. Damned if you do and damned if you don't, and that could be one of the reasons for the mods not being bothered, is the abuse worth it?
The reputation system was introduced to try and aid the moderators with users policing each other, but the system was abused. Perhaps a new moderation team, who'd actually moderate, would have been better?
Then we have the infraction system, something that should have been implemented a long time ago (or something similar if that feature was not available in the forum software). Again it's there to aid the moderators, and it's not a bad system, some like it, others don't. I've made my views clear on the system in the past, so no need to waffle on about it again, apart from saying that I think it is a good step in the right direction, but it's a little late coming, plus, again, it would help if there was a larger team of very active moderators to a) use their existing abilities to delete/move/lock threads/posts, and b) use the infraction system on users.
A comment was made that another forum "sacked" all the moderators and if they didn't notice, they were not reinstated, if they did notice and wished to regain their moderator status that had to explain why, if the reasons were valid, they were reinstated, if not, they were left as they were. New moderators were recruited to fill the void and actively moderate.
04 April 2007, 01:42 PM
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So moses is the cause of the downturn? He is opinionated, but so are many others. I certainly don't seem him corrupting the majority of threads. If he was such an issue then I'm sure he would have been permanently banned before the infraction system was enabled.
Perhaps it's just natural evolution that has caused a slowdown, older users have moved on to other marques and thus don't need SN any longer, or people could simply be fed up with the same old, same old threads that keep popping up, plus we add the trolls into the mix and people just cannot be bothered to view SN. It's also a chance of focus, as others have said, it's not just a subaru site any longer.
Others have said that it's possibly due to over moderation, I disagree, I think it's more a case of a lack of proper moderation for quite some time. People would be able to post and troll to their hearts content and very little was done about it. Complaints were made, but seemed to fall on deaf ears.
It does seem that there are only a few moderators who actually moderate, so I'd say most of them cannot be bothered to do it any longer, for whatever reason, and that doesn't help anyone. Users don't have any faith in the moderators doing their job, and when a thread is moderated people cry out about it as it seems like over-moderatoration, when in fact someone has actually decided to do something about a thread. Damned if you do and damned if you don't, and that could be one of the reasons for the mods not being bothered, is the abuse worth it?
The reputation system was introduced to try and aid the moderators with users policing each other, but the system was abused. Perhaps a new moderation team, who'd actually moderate, would have been better?
Then we have the infraction system, something that should have been implemented a long time ago (or something similar if that feature was not available in the forum software). Again it's there to aid the moderators, and it's not a bad system, some like it, others don't. I've made my views clear on the system in the past, so no need to waffle on about it again, apart from saying that I think it is a good step in the right direction, but it's a little late coming, plus, again, it would help if there was a larger team of very active moderators to a) use their existing abilities to delete/move/lock threads/posts, and b) use the infraction system on users.
A comment was made that another forum "sacked" all the moderators and if they didn't notice, they were not reinstated, if they did notice and wished to regain their moderator status that had to explain why, if the reasons were valid, they were reinstated, if not, they were left as they were. New moderators were recruited to fill the void and actively moderate.
Perhaps it's just natural evolution that has caused a slowdown, older users have moved on to other marques and thus don't need SN any longer, or people could simply be fed up with the same old, same old threads that keep popping up, plus we add the trolls into the mix and people just cannot be bothered to view SN. It's also a chance of focus, as others have said, it's not just a subaru site any longer.
Others have said that it's possibly due to over moderation, I disagree, I think it's more a case of a lack of proper moderation for quite some time. People would be able to post and troll to their hearts content and very little was done about it. Complaints were made, but seemed to fall on deaf ears.
It does seem that there are only a few moderators who actually moderate, so I'd say most of them cannot be bothered to do it any longer, for whatever reason, and that doesn't help anyone. Users don't have any faith in the moderators doing their job, and when a thread is moderated people cry out about it as it seems like over-moderatoration, when in fact someone has actually decided to do something about a thread. Damned if you do and damned if you don't, and that could be one of the reasons for the mods not being bothered, is the abuse worth it?
The reputation system was introduced to try and aid the moderators with users policing each other, but the system was abused. Perhaps a new moderation team, who'd actually moderate, would have been better?
Then we have the infraction system, something that should have been implemented a long time ago (or something similar if that feature was not available in the forum software). Again it's there to aid the moderators, and it's not a bad system, some like it, others don't. I've made my views clear on the system in the past, so no need to waffle on about it again, apart from saying that I think it is a good step in the right direction, but it's a little late coming, plus, again, it would help if there was a larger team of very active moderators to a) use their existing abilities to delete/move/lock threads/posts, and b) use the infraction system on users.
A comment was made that another forum "sacked" all the moderators and if they didn't notice, they were not reinstated, if they did notice and wished to regain their moderator status that had to explain why, if the reasons were valid, they were reinstated, if not, they were left as they were. New moderators were recruited to fill the void and actively moderate.
04 April 2007, 01:45 PM
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I'm in "documentation" mode at present, hence the verbose ramblings.
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jasey, don't get me wrong, I really like moses, he's a character like Pete lewis.
This place is sometimes compared to a pub. I imagine once or twice a month you'd need to take moses outside and hold him on the ground while he rants and his arms flail, then all would have a good laugh about it next day. OTOH, UB would just find that people keep telling him they're each going home for a quiet night when they're all going on to a curry house or a club, and making excuses when he suggests going somewhere. There was a guy like that in our social circle, an unwanted brother of one of the regulars. You could never quite tell him to **** off, it was like kicking a puppy, but you knew deep down that was the only way his thick brain would ever get the message.
This place is sometimes compared to a pub. I imagine once or twice a month you'd need to take moses outside and hold him on the ground while he rants and his arms flail, then all would have a good laugh about it next day. OTOH, UB would just find that people keep telling him they're each going home for a quiet night when they're all going on to a curry house or a club, and making excuses when he suggests going somewhere. There was a guy like that in our social circle, an unwanted brother of one of the regulars. You could never quite tell him to **** off, it was like kicking a puppy, but you knew deep down that was the only way his thick brain would ever get the message.
04 April 2007, 02:02 PM
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jasey, don't get me wrong, I really like moses, he's a character like Pete lewis.
This place is sometimes compared to a pub. I imagine once or twice a month you'd need to take moses outside and hold him on the ground while he rants and his arms flail, then all would have a good laugh about it next day. OTOH, UB would just find that people keep telling him they're each going home for a quiet night when they're all going on to a curry house or a club, and making excuses when he suggests going somewhere. There was a guy like that in our social circle, an unwanted brother of one of the regulars. You could never quite tell him to **** off, it was like kicking a puppy, but you knew deep down that was the only way his thick brain would ever get the message.
This place is sometimes compared to a pub. I imagine once or twice a month you'd need to take moses outside and hold him on the ground while he rants and his arms flail, then all would have a good laugh about it next day. OTOH, UB would just find that people keep telling him they're each going home for a quiet night when they're all going on to a curry house or a club, and making excuses when he suggests going somewhere. There was a guy like that in our social circle, an unwanted brother of one of the regulars. You could never quite tell him to **** off, it was like kicking a puppy, but you knew deep down that was the only way his thick brain would ever get the message.
ps I do like your analogy
04 April 2007, 02:12 PM
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Oh come on. Moses and I are not the best of friends to be honest and I take great exception to alot of his religious/islamic rantings but to say he is the major cause of the decline on this site is not true.
I was about to exit from here when we had endless pro BNP threads and you Uncle Buck were involved in many of those. I don't want to open that can of worms again, but UB it really is a case of the kettle and the pot. As David Cameron said, BNP supporters and Islamic funds' are as bad and as poisonous as each other, I agree, and as such UB and Moses can be as bad as each other
I was about to exit from here when we had endless pro BNP threads and you Uncle Buck were involved in many of those. I don't want to open that can of worms again, but UB it really is a case of the kettle and the pot. As David Cameron said, BNP supporters and Islamic funds' are as bad and as poisonous as each other, I agree, and as such UB and Moses can be as bad as each other
I'd venture that everything has a shelf life, including websites, and Scoobynet just can't keep the members interests.
As has been said, Impreza's are not cult cars anymore, and perhaps the majority of hose buying them are either too mainstream to have an active interest in a BBS, or too young to be arsed with a site which they may see as quite dull compared to some of the less politically correct and arguably more "open" boards?
A victim of its own success in that regard perhaps?
Or maybe a more youthfull management is needed to spice things up?
Thats not an insult, webbie(s) just an observation
04 April 2007, 02:15 PM
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I don't know why you let people wind you up so much. It's like old people complaining about sex on TV. If you don't like it, switch over or switch off!
04 April 2007, 02:27 PM
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Less of the 'old' as well
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04 April 2007, 02:31 PM
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Good point, i have a friend of mine who just finished a six month stint editing on Playboy TV, he said he got bored of it in the end - Yearrright!
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