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Old 15 April 2007 | 10:27 PM
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sorry to throw this in, some of us are just lucky I Guess

Bearing in mind the car did already have APS DR725 FMIC, & 3" sports cat exhaust, I managed to get it up to 420 bhp & 385lb/ft for £2600,

Perrin Rotated mount turbo kit £1500 (comes with everything you need including Garrett GT 30) needed some special mods which I done myself at no cost to fit)
650cc Sards £250
Headers £250
Remap £400
Equal fuel rails £200

That`s cheap for a GT 30 KIT......
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The kit was only $2200 dollars when I bought it, the rest was shipping & taxes, the kits retail for around $3200 now, but if you know the right people you can get 20% off of that. would only recommend it if your brave though!!!
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The kit was only $2200 dollars when I bought it, the rest was shipping & taxes, the kits retail for around $3200 now, but if you know the right people you can get 20% off of that. would only recommend it if your brave though!!!

Good buy then mate that was....
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What im looking for is a car that is quick at low revs, if you no what i mean. Something thats fast 0-100 so good for twisty roads etc.

So can an Impreza give me that??
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What im looking for is a car that is quick at low revs, if you no what i mean. Something thats fast 0-100 so good for twisty roads etc.

So can an Impreza give me that??

Yes mine for 10.5k, think of the money you`ll save

The RA`s are awesome to 120 and with it mapped aswell...
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Cheers Staffi!! Selling already. Was really looking for something newer and no fun in buying a car thast alrady done. Tho I was looking at 2 P1's that are for sale in my neck of the woods. Any good??
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Cheers Staffi!! Selling already. Was really looking for something newer and no fun in buying a car thast alrady done. Tho I was looking at 2 P1's that are for sale in my neck of the woods. Any good??


No mate i`m not selling, just abit of banter. P1`s, yes good car for sure, i just though you were after a new shape STI though??
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Yeah if an STI will give me the car I want which as I said was a fast road car 0-100 speed! Thought it was another Tommi Mak story!!!
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Originally Posted by taylor-1982
What im looking for is a car that is quick at low revs, if you no what i mean. Something thats fast 0-100 so good for twisty roads etc.

So can an Impreza give me that??
Yep, any well sorted Impreza will give you that 0-100 is what they specialise in; they're sprint cars. My humble MY99 classic is at 320bhp and goes like stink (any scooby at this power level should be very drivable). At 400bhp you're looking at more lag and the power being higher up in the rev range etc...

A Type RA Impreza will rip through the gears like you woudn't believe!

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Yep, any well sorted Impreza will give you that 0-100 is what they specialise in; they're sprint cars.

A Type RA Impreza will rip through the gears like you woudn't believe!

Ain`t that the truth??
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Yep, any well sorted Impreza will give you that 0-100 is what they specialise in; they're sprint cars.

A Type RA Impreza will rip through the gears like you woudn't believe!

Kool! So what kind of impreza am I after then? An STI and RA a WRX? Im lost again!!!
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Originally Posted by taylor-1982
Yeah if an STI will give me the car I want which as I said was a fast road car 0-100 speed! Thought it was another Tommi Mak story!!!

no the Mak went cus i wasn`t using it, plus i was offered full asking, 18.5k
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Kool! So what kind of impreza am I after then? An STI and RA a WRX? Im lost again!!!


That depends on you and how you feel for looks wise and newness. You`ve said you`d like something newish so an STI 03/ TO PRESENT I GUESS. I went for the classic version 6 RA, mainly cus i prefer this shape, plus it`s a limited addition and they go like stink...

If you can, try and test drive several before you make your mind up, you`ll be suprised how quick the R/ RA get to 100mph.. especially with a nice little map
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That depends on you and how you feel for looks wise and newness. You`ve said you`d like something newish so an STI 03/ TO PRESENT I GUESS. I went for the classic version 6 RA, mainly cus i prefer this shape, plus it`s a limited addition and they go like stink...

If you can try and test drive several before you make your mind up, you`ll be suprised how quick the R/ RA get to 100mph.. especially with a nice little map

Yeah and the classic shape is cheaper! But ive had a classic shape wrx b4, loved the car but never modded it.
But if I bought a newer wrx could I still mod it to be a fast 0-100 car or would a sti still be the better option??
Thanks staffi
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Yeah and the classic shape is cheaper! But ive had a classic shape wrx b4, loved the car but never modded it.
But if I bought a newer wrx could I still mod it to be a fast 0-100 car or would a sti still be the better option??
Thanks staffi

I`d say yes of course, but you have to remeber, the R/ RA are built for quick acceleration, plus they only weigh about 1170-1270 kg...
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Lots to think about!!! Cheers guys!!
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Cheers Staffi!! Selling already. Was really looking for something newer and no fun in buying a car thast alrady done. Tho I was looking at 2 P1's that are for sale in my neck of the woods. Any good??
l'll mail you the pics of my car. It certainly does everything that you are seeking .

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thanks david. I bet it does that and more!!
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I've found this thread pretty late but I believe from what I've read on here if your not too concerned with the 400 mark, just want to get very close to it then standard internals should be fine. 911's ver 3 sti is something like 380/360 on stnadard internals with a bigger turbo and a few sensible mods with a remap. If you can get this out of a ver.3 sti then a newage sti should be more than capable of this.

Pretty sure a few on here like David Wallis have run standard UK classic internals at 400bhp with sensible mods.

David API makes a good point when he says you will be at the limit at 400bhp, others on here have shown its possible and often reliable but you do run the risk of blowing your engine.

I'd say make some sensible mods and aim for high 3xx's.
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These short geared wonder cars can be a PITA when you tune them because they get through the gears far too quickly that you are always throwing gears at them. My old classic with 2.5/GT30/UK 6 speed was silly - overtake a long vehicle on a back road using the full performance available and you would make 2 or 3 gear changes on the wrong side of the road before you'd passed it. Thankfully Subaru have lengthened the gearing on the more recent 6 speeds. Same goes for track use or quarter mile IMHO.
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Does this car have to be 400bhp? i mean it seems people are obsessed with bhp (nowt wrong with that to a certain degree) which is ok if you are competing etc.

if you want a nice quick road car then dont discount having a 380 or even a 360 bhp beastie, cost you loads less and be lovely to drive on the road.

You can always bulls**t them in the pub and tell its 400 brake.


A few Smacs members are running late STi's with 360 ish bhp and i drove Immy's (PCM) 380bhp Spec C a few weeks ago and it was everything i would look for in a road going Scooby, fast and torquey, just a nice nice drive.


My advice go for a JDM or better still a Spec C and go for 360-380 trust me you'll be satisfied.

for a while anyway
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thing is chief as much as i love scooby`s, i still cannot get over how my evo m8`s (adam) fq340mr went around bedford autodrome t`other day, i have done as much as i can to make me scooby handle better, but as i was following him arond the track i could not help but notice how planted his car was, he had one wheel in the air on quite a few corners and the ffin thing still was unsettled, i know a few will kick up a stink when i post this but if i had the money i would defo buy an evo it is just so much more than just a road car!
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Originally Posted by borat52

Pretty sure a few on here like David Wallis have run standard UK classic internals at 400bhp with sensible mods.

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I think David covered it earlier: there is a difference between what a tuner might be happy running on their car and what they'd be comfortable with on a customer's car. If they break it, it's an inconvenience, but they can fix it much more easily and inexpensively than Joe Blogs, who will have to get the job professionally done at considerable expense.

On the road, it'd be better to have a responsive car with a nice wide powerband and 330-350 bhp than something with most of the fireworks at the top end pushing out 400+ bhp. I'm not entrely convinced the latter would be any quicker point to point- it might even be slower. I'm fairly sure there is a law of diminshing returns beyond a certain bhp level as far as road driving is concerned.

Competition and pub bragging rights, of course, is a different matter!
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I think David covered it earlier: there is a difference between what a tuner might be happy running on their car and what they'd be comfortable with on a customer's car. If they break it, it's an inconvenience, but they can fix it much more easily and inexpensively than Joe Blogs, who will have to get the job professionally done at considerable expense.

On the road, it'd be better to have a responsive car with a nice wide powerband and 330-350 bhp than something with most of the fireworks at the top end pushing out 400+ bhp. I'm not entrely convinced the latter would be any quicker point to point- it might even be slower. I'm fairly sure there is a law of diminshing returns beyond a certain bhp level as far as road driving is concerned.

Competition and pub bragging rights, of course, is a different matter!

LOL. Yep, that's the most important bit !

I agree entirely re the useability of a wide power band in a daily driver.
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i know a few will kick up a stink when i post this but if i had the money i would defo buy an evo it is just so much more than just a road car!
MMM I really need to have a drive of the newer scoobys. As said I had a classic b4, but my Evo is better than that, just my opinion tho, great car, and has the best looks, but the EVO for me has brilliant handling, as said b4 I have a lot to think about!
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Originally Posted by taylor-1982
MMM I really need to have a drive of the newer scoobys. As said I had a classic b4, but my Evo is better than that, just my opinion tho, great car, and has the best looks, but the EVO for me has brilliant handling, as said b4 I have a lot to think about!
I don`t think you REALLY know what you`re doing yet?? you keep on going back to how good the Evo is, therefore keep it, if it does all you want/need, plus you`ve got your magic 400bhp you`re after already...just my opinion
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Yeah right enough. I think its down to looks more than power. There is somthing about a scoobys look but I have an EVO and I like the drive I get with it.

But thanks anyway guys. I must say aswell there dont seem to be so much t**sers on here as the MLR. Thanks
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Originally Posted by fwdnutz
thing is chief as much as i love scooby`s, i still cannot get over how my evo m8`s (adam) fq340mr went around bedford autodrome t`other day, i have done as much as i can to make me scooby handle better, but as i was following him arond the track i could not help but notice how planted his car was, he had one wheel in the air on quite a few corners and the ffin thing still was unsettled, i know a few will kick up a stink when i post this but if i had the money i would defo buy an evo it is just so much more than just a road car!

You need Toyo 888's Al


Sorry for going off topic anyway.....
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Yeah right enough. I think its down to looks more than power. There is somthing about a scoobys look but I have an EVO and I like the drive I get with it.

But thanks anyway guys. I must say aswell there dont seem to be so much t**sers on here as the MLR. Thanks

I agree totally with you 100%, i`ve found the people one here very helpfull too.
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Yeah right enough. I think its down to looks more than power. There is somthing about a scoobys look but I have an EVO and I like the drive I get with it.

But thanks anyway guys. I must say aswell there dont seem to be so much t**sers on here as the MLR. Thanks

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