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Old 02 May 2007, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Granby
Seems your on your own regarding these tyres, maybe you had a set from Thailand

Lol Learn to drive your car, then worry about the tyres, sado's
Old 02 May 2007, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by suffolkdar
Lol Learn to drive your car, then worry about the tyres, sado's
yeah yeah yeah
Old 02 May 2007, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Granby
yeah yeah yeah

I must be wrong then, Ok, not a problem, more money in my pocket! LOL
Old 02 May 2007, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by suffolkdar
Lol Learn to drive your car, then worry about the tyres, sado's
People that CAN drive, would not post a comment like that, as they know that the eagle F1 is one of the best tyres out there. FACT. As they are very interested in how progresive a tyre is on the limits of grip.

By posting a coment like that you reveal yourself to fairly limited knowlege. And you are calling someone else a sado! LOL

I expect you will post some new drivel now - but I wont give you the pleasure of responding.
Old 02 May 2007, 09:03 PM
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I have had problems with F1 s in the past.
The tyres have had bulges in them in the centre of tread, for no apparent reason.
This may be due to the highlighted problem or wrong load rating.
They were always great tyres,I think the problem occurs on high speed motorway runs for long periods 110 120 .
After being caught speeding slowed down and no more problems!!??
Tyre shops never raised the Issue, just sold me another set,which I bought due to such rave reviews on here.
I often thought it was the missus running over kerbs or pot holes causing the problem.
Will not buy another set now.
Plenty of other good tyres out for sale.
Old 02 May 2007, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitehorn
People that CAN drive, would not post a comment like that, as they know that the eagle F1 is one of the best tyres out there. FACT. As they are very interested in how progresive a tyre is on the limits of grip.

By posting a coment like that you reveal yourself to fairly limited knowlege. And you are calling someone else a sado! LOL

I expect you will post some new drivel now - but I wont give you the pleasure of responding.

Thats great thing about scoobynet, Lots of EXPERTS that spurt FACT, This place really is the pits,(if you have an opionion!) that is

Nice one- keep them coming
Old 02 May 2007, 10:54 PM
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Guys, lets keep this on topic. If you want to discuss/debate the best brand of tyre, start another thread.

James: Regarding the 'E' marking, could you provide a breakdown of the markings. The 'E13' number (for example), is that sufficient or does it need to be followed by the long number too (approval number?).

Cheers,

Bob
Old 03 May 2007, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Granby
Mine have all the E numbers but with made in China on them
Made in China? They have serious quality issues, but then again I had started athread about that months ago......
Old 03 May 2007, 06:45 AM
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Regarding post 49. Tyres sold by an approved UK (or continental europe) dealer will be the right spec for the European market irrespective of which country they are built in. Again, if you buy from a reputable approved dealer there is nothing to worry about.

Regarding the post on a list of code numbers. I can try and get serial numbers, but it may be an indigestable list!

Again, my advice is: If you buy E marked tyres from a non approved dealer, ask about the supply chain route of the tyres. If you buy non-E marked tyres, then the dealer should compensate you and you should visit trading standards.
Old 03 May 2007, 07:54 AM
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Another question for you James, slightly off topic but while we've got your attention this might be something you can get fixed...

The web pages for the new F1 Asymmetric:

Goodyear-Performance Tire-Eagle F1 Asymmetric

The speed rating and the load index columns are the wrong way round.
Old 03 May 2007, 10:03 AM
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Ricardo

Thanks! Our web designer will be sent to Thailand to be turned into non E marked compound.
Old 03 May 2007, 10:15 AM
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Just for clarity, The F1 GSD3 designed for the UK market are presently supplied either from Germany or China. Any tyre sold as replacement for use on UK roads should have an E mark.

Please find a link to a tyre sidewall from our sister company Dunlop's site.

Dunlop Tyres UK

The letter F on the link shows you a box or a circle and inside this is an E with a number eg E13 or E5. Outside that box or circle should be a further number. The number outside the box or circle is the E mark. If your tyre does not have the number after the E13 / E5 then the tyre is not E marked and illegal for fitting in the UK for use on public roads.

By clicking on letter F you will find out more information on E marks.

If the tyres sold to you do not have an e-mark we would advise you refer the matter to the dealer who sold you the tyres or trading standards.
This goes for any brand of tyre, not just Dunlop or Goodyear. I believe most tyre companies have similar issues with unofficial imports brought into Europe by companies other than the main corporation.
Old 03 May 2007, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Goodyear
Regarding post 49. Tyres sold by an approved UK (or continental europe) dealer will be the right spec for the European market irrespective of which country they are built in. Again, if you buy from a reputable approved dealer there is nothing to worry about.
James, you haven't quite answered the concern. I understand that both sources of tyre are E approved, however say there was a grip criteria and the German tyres achieved 120% of that, but the China tyres, due to being a different compound 'only' achieved 100%, then although both are the right spec, there could be consequences of running german and Chinese sourced tyres on opposite sides of the car. (Not implying that Chinese is 'worse' than German, just used to illustrate my question).
Old 03 May 2007, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by speedking
James, you haven't quite answered the concern. I understand that both sources of tyre are E approved, however say there was a grip criteria and the German tyres achieved 120% of that, but the China tyres, due to being a different compound 'only' achieved 100%, then although both are the right spec, there could be consequences of running german and Chinese sourced tyres on opposite sides of the car. (Not implying that Chinese is 'worse' than German, just used to illustrate my question).

If they are sold through the Goodyear Dunlop Tyres Europe network we can guarantee that they are the both the right spec. The Chinese made tyres that we sell in the UK are to the correct spec for the market.


In a couple of months time the Eagle F1 Asymmetric will replace the Eagle F1 GSD3, with another leap forward in performance (see track and race cars this month and Performance Tuner last month). These will be mae in Germany, Luxembourg and China and the GSD3 will still be made in Thailand. At that point the job of identifying what is right and wrong will be easier!
Old 03 May 2007, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Goodyear

In a couple of months time the Eagle F1 Asymmetric will replace the Eagle F1 GSD3, with another leap forward in performance (see track and race cars this month and Performance Tuner last month). These will be mae in Germany, Luxembourg and China and the GSD3 will still be made in Thailand. At that point the job of identifying what is right and wrong will be easier!




thanks for the info
Old 03 May 2007, 09:07 PM
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I have 4 of these on my wrx,
They were fitted by CTS in derby and have the E13 and are made in Thailand
do I contact Goodyear 1st?

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Old 03 May 2007, 09:23 PM
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I just bought 4 f1's on monday for £50 each so had a bit of a panic when i read this . hay ho though just checked them and the're e marked ok
Old 04 May 2007, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobynewbie72
I have 4 of these on my wrx,
They were fitted by CTS in derby and have the E13 and are made in Thailand
do I contact Goodyear 1st?

If they have the E13, but not the longer E marking number outlined in the link in my earlier post then you really need to be talking to your dealer and/or trading standards.

We are happy to help if people are not satisfied with the tyres we design for this market, but in the case of unapproved, unofficial imports then the onus is on the dealer. However, we will also contact dealers reminding them of the legal position as we want to protect both our brand and our customers.
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Well I`m getting mine changed tomorrow so many thanks for this heads up.
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It is great to see someone from Goodyear sorting out everyones doubts and fears.

Thank you for the information.
Old 05 May 2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Janspeed
It is great to see someone from Goodyear sorting out everyones doubts and fears.

Thank you for the information.
Agree
Old 05 May 2007, 03:07 PM
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Thanks for the comments.

The vast majority of tyre dealers in the UK do care about getting the right tyre on the right car and looking after their customers. Goodyear, and I'm sure other tyre companies as this is a broader issue, will do everything possible to protect both customers and our own reputation from potential damage caused by unofficial importers who do not bring in the correct product.

The Thai-made Goodyear tyre is also extremely good, but designed for a totally different market, climate and road conditions.
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I`m Happy to report CTS of Derby changed mine today with no problems, I know they have been in touch with Goodyear and that a Meeting is planned this week(by Goodyear/Dunlop) about this problem.
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I have just checked my Goodyear tyre's fitted by someone mentioned on this thread, Two are made in thailand and no E number and two are made in Germany and E marked and legal, Tyres were fitted 14 months ago as a set and i have the reicept by luck. Guess i need to make a phone call!
Old 07 May 2007, 08:16 AM
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Thanks for this information, I'll have to tell my friends about this.



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Old 07 May 2007, 08:51 AM
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Hi Goodyear,

I've a "Made In Germany" F1 GS-D3, and have all the necessary E-marks.

However, under the DOT code, there's a missing DOT imprint and the manufacturing week is 5306 ! Is there 53weeks in year 2006 !?!?

Can you please verify it's authenticity ?





Old 07 May 2007, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Silverstream
the manufacturing week is 5306 ! Is there 53weeks in year 2006 !?!?
Week 53 was 25-31 Dec 2006
Old 07 May 2007, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
I think the correct load weighting is 87y. I'm sure someone will correct me If I'm wrong.
You're wrong, it's 91Y. I believe the 87s are the lower load rating (note rating not weighting) that had been known to split. My 215/45 ZR17s are definitely the 91Y, am now on the third set and have never split one.

Can't say I've tried every alternative but they're certainly a very good tyre.
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Originally Posted by simpsons !
I have just checked my Goodyear tyre's fitted by someone mentioned on this thread, Two are made in thailand and no E number and two are made in Germany and E marked and legal, Tyres were fitted 14 months ago as a set and i have the reicept by luck. Guess i need to make a phone call!
I emailed said dealer on Friday asking him to ring me about Goodyear F1 GSD3 tyres, I didn't say why was just an enquiry. He rang this morning 9.30 sharp (obviously hoping for a sale) Then i kicked him sharp between the legs of why had he sold me two illegal tyres for this market, He seemed a bit shocked and promised to come back to me, I rang him back at 4pm and asked why he hadn't returned my call his colleague answered the call and said "Oh is this about the replacements?" Result i thought! But he explained that he is waiting for Goodyear to come back to him and clarify the situation. When i ring tomorow i'll tell him my next call will be to trading standards if i don't start getting answers.

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Well I've been speaking to the garage that i got my tyres off and they have been very helpful. I took the car in last Thursday and their tyre dealer came out and took photos of the tyres and said he'd look into it. Well they got back to the garage today saying that even though there was no number after the e-mark and that they were made in Thailand they were still the correct ones fort the UK. BUT they said they would still change all 4 tyres for me!!!!! They reckon that the reason that there was no number on them was that whoever made the mould for them forgot to put it on!!!! They got there solicitors to phone up the garage saying that they would change them but they were quite happy that they could prove they were the correct tyres in a court!!

All sounds a bit funny to me!!

Wayne


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