The Rig

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Does anyone know what pete looks like, im guessing early 40`s bald on top ?
am i right ?

(totally random post on a thread about clutches,like pete does) !

B-B

Pete - you have been known to 'mod' too though haven't you??

And yes - I do know what he looks like - in answer to the totally random post.

B-B

Damocell

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I had an Exedy Organic fitted and found it to be lighter than the standard Subaru clutch...however it judders ALOT.

David at API had a drive of the car (they didn't fit the Exedy) and said it shouldn't do it and that it may have been fitted wrong.

All I'm trying to say is don't buy from a two bit shop and let the experts fit it.

Damo

pimmo2000

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Scoobytech !!

Scoobytek ?

However you spell it, have to be up in like 4 hours to get there

Lateral Performance

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For the mis-informed, or for the people who like to voice an opinion, even if that opinion is without foundation

Subaru clutches are manufactured by Daikin/ Exedy, they are the same company.

Pete, for reference EXEDY Globalparts Corporation | High Performance and OEM Clutches and Flywheels


With regard to the official Exedy "Pink" box Racing clutches, these have both up rated covers, AND up rated clutch plates. They are without doubt one of the best up rated organic clutch kits available.


Mark.

ScoobyDoo555

Gear Head

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Is this one just a standard clutch?

eBay.co.uk: SUBARU IMPREZA 2.0 4WD TURBO WRX & STI EXEDY CLUTCH KIT (item 260112224306 end time 06-May-07 20:00:00 BST)

pslewis

So, basically, what we are saying is that the Exedy clutch and the Subaru clutch are one and the same!

In that case all those saying that one is better than the other are talking bollox

AND, me stating that I would stick to Subaru's Clutch is the SAME as me saying buy an Exedy Clutch ................... yeah, very mis-leading advice that!!

pslewis

Hey, you, keep your nose out - this is a male discussion

I'm surprised you can remember what I look like ...... it was soooooo long ago!

Gear Head

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Pete,
'oh, yes, the replacement clutch will not be as good as a standard Subaru replacement.'

I would call that very mis-leading Pete!

WRXewl

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Made by the same people yes but who ever heard of a company making just one model of clutch for a car

pslewis

The original poster did not state a model number ........ so, put simply, any advice about it would be bollox

Whatever I say it would get jumped up and down on - it's the trade-off I suffer for stating the sensible voice of reason ............

Stating that you cannot go wrong by sticking to OE is NOT a statement that can be argued with!!

Damocell

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If that means did they fit the clutch, no they didn't fit the clutch

Damo

Ads78

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Posted a pic of himself the other day, here:

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...ml#post6868364

pslewis

I'm not quite that slim anymore ...............

The Zohan

Oh dear, toys out of the pram Pete!?!


You said
"Your Bank Balance will be less I would imagine ..... oh, yes, the replacement clutch will not be as good as a standard Subaru replacement.

Don't do it!!"


So the basis for your opinion is that OE parts are best/better is it. May be true in some cases. How do you know it "will not" (to use your own words), do tell...

FYI manufacturers do not always use the best parts and often they work to a budget/spec. It does by no means make them the best, often somewhere in the middle for quality vs. price. If the Impreza was bulilt from the best part avaliable then im might cost 2-3 times as much which would move it out of its current price band and cut down on it potential sales for instance, a 60K scoob would be competing with some pretty serious machinery with a much smaller market. The car is bult to a price, as are the parts mate, simple as that!

Some of the more reputable after market suppliers produce better parts from better materials and built to a higher spec, often these cost more to produce/delevlop and the price can reflect this. However, Subaru are not particularly cheap for parts are they.

So, do tell, you blanket sweeping statement about OE parts vs. aftermarket parts - what is it based on then?

Why do you think the clutch in case may be inferior, what are you comments based on, it appears a lot of people on here rate the part in it merits v.s the OE part, you do heve a point about work parts not always performing as well as new and fitting a new part feels so much better anyway but this is only part (no pun intended)of it.

You dish out you advice on imports 'cocklinks', modifications, etc based on little more than your dislike of them, or that is how it appears and face it Pete you have been pulled up more than enough times for it.

Whilst it is your opinion it also seems we have to be entitled to it as well.

Perhaps leave the technical threads alone unless you have something useful to contribute eh By useful i do not mean it has to be positive, more based on experience and first hand experience.

pslewis

And, please, could you quote the Part we are talking about here?

We know it is an Exedy Clutch - Exedy make the clutch for Subaru.

Please tell me what the Exedy Part Number and Model of Clutch it is under discussion?

The plain fact that is staring you in the face is that NO model number or part number information was supplied ............. therefore any statement can only be an OPINION - and I was stating mine .... why single my opinion out?? THATS MY POINT!

And as for staying away from Technical issues .... don't make me laugh I can talk anyone off these boards on technical issues and you know it!!

The Zohan

Pete,
You opinion is that it is non gen so it is not as good - is that not correct?

You said
"Your Bank Balance will be less I would imagine ..... oh, yes, the replacement clutch will not be as good as a standard Subaru replacement.

Don't do it!!"

Now you say Exedy make clutches for Subaru so it is either the same part in a different box or a different spec part from a manufacturer that supplies parts to Subaru.

You state in your opinion that it will not be as good (your words), what is that based on then?

You ignore the point about OE being built to a price and then divert attention towards Exedy making clutches for Subaru.

If you know so much about the technical side (as you so modestly pointed out and i am sure a few people may disagree) then why do you make such blanket statements about an OE clutch v.s aftermarket clutch and OE being inferior?


What you have stated and what come across is that OE is best and anything else is not as good, not just me has that take on what you have said reading through some of the replies.

Anyway, enough from me - subject done to death as far as i am concernend.

pslewis

Ha Ha Ha Ha - there you go again ..... pslewis posts a post so it needs to be questioned

Go back, in the cool light of day, and read the thread ...... I had no idea that Exedy made the Subaru OE Clutch until someone pointed that out - I don't know if it's true so I assume it is.

In my opinion, and plenty of non-***** opinion, fitting Standard OE Parts is a wise way to maintain your investment in the vehicle - nothing wrong with that and stating that in a free world.

Now, others have stated that the Exedy Clutch is better, lighter, etc. - they don't know what part number or model number the original poster was talking about ...... so, they are commenting on a non-entity!!

Where is your demand that THEY shut up?? Nowhere!! Which is my whole point!!

I will repeat my opinion that fitting OE Parts is a wise choice where there is a choice ... you clearly think that is an opinion that needs surppressing - which is where we disagree!

st3v3

What is in question here pete, is your evidence to back up what you say,as you claim never to modify any part of your car but only fit OE parts, how can you say "the replacement clutch will not be as good as a standard Subaru replacement"?

On what do you base YOUR facts on?

You also claim to be "the voice of reason" Which cant be right as there is no reasoning with you,even if the evidence is looking you in the face because it always has to be pslewis way or no way, doesn't it.?

dan83590

This is the exact same clutch as I had fitted when mine bit the dust. It works just fine. No need for a Paddle or Racing clutch unless you are going to Brands Hatch.

pimmo2000

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Jesus....

Anyway

Had it done and no judder at all in any gear, excellent lift off, much lower bite than standard and much lighter, all round an excellent buy!!

Cheers to Webby and the guys for your help and flakey for the info, BTW lovely car you've got there flakey and the Silver Turbo Webby ran me to the Cash point in was lovely too !!

I'll be back soon !

pslewis

Tell you what - YOU show the facts to state that the Exedy Clutch (Part Number we don't know yet) IS - in fact - BETTER than the Subaru OE Clutch!! Supplying a comparison Spec will be a start............

Lets see if you can do that - then I will consider my response!!

Fitting Subaru OE Parts cannot be seen as bad advice - or can't you even see that?

dan83590

Come on Pete. Just try...

pslewis

pslewis

Can you believe that some pratt has given me an Infraction for Spammed Advertisements on this thread??

WTF????????????????

At this rate I will be banned by lunchtime!!

Scoobydoo160

Guys, after fitting a 6 speed jap spec gearbox to my 2000 Classic I opted for a PPG lightened flywheel and Exedy racing organic clutch (pink Box).
I stand among you people who noticed the benefits, lighter feel, lower biting point, and considerably better grip. The car could eventually be mapped once fitted as the OEM clutch was slipping every time I hit boost after changing the turbo and supporting mods.
My only complain is a light rattle which occurs as i allow the revs to fall in 4th and 5th gear. Is this the norm with uprated clutches and lightened flys. A friend of mine has the same issue.

Rgds
Rob

DazW

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I can't beleive you actually want others to provide info, when you couldn't even be bothered to back up your own claims

OEM clutch £278+ vat plus fitting (Subaru Carstins) ...Exedy uprated organic (GGR) £255+ vat plus fitting

Now what was the spec of your more expensive OEM clutch again?

st3v3

you havent answered my question yet pete??

Or is this just another get out, because your back is against the wall?

Steve Whitehorn

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Well said PH

OE parts are sourced on a budget - they do the job are a safe bet. Fair enought PSL.
But there are better products to be had out there that last longer or can take more stress. They are better and they often cost more which is why they werent fiited to the stock car in the first place. It looks like Exdey do different grades of clutches. But as PSL ponts out it would be good to know the exact difference between the pink box and the OE item.