gillyz20let

ex supra tt owner here too,

uk car, few simple mods like FCD, electronic boost controller, full 3" exhaust and stg3 hybrid turbos,fmic, with totaly stock ecu and fuel system running 1.5bar boost, never had it on the rollers but did a 1/4mile of 11.8 at 128mph(2 of them secs are waiting for 2nd turbo off line)

ive been in some fast cars, gt3 porker,500bhp cossie, 360 modena and non of these would touch the supra in a straight line, it was an auto with very long gears, the speedo just made one big relentless sweep from 0-170mph and keeps pulling off the clock (180mph) had a few races with big bikes (r1/xzr's) and there was nothing in it after 100 mph.

but an absolute nightmare on wet/greasy/uneven roads, hit a pothole or raised man holecover on full throttle in the dry at 100mph and you would be making some serious smoke from the rear tyres, and brown marks in your pants.

seen vids of gt35s ect on 2.5L classics but the speedo still hasnt the same pace of that supra.

matchmaker

Last time I checked, my humble family hatch had more torque and a flatter torque curve from as little as 1850 rpm than a WRX

But AL is a troll

alanbell

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I did a Track day at Croft last summer in my V7 STI, They were 3 Supras in my class , And not one got near me on track, >> All day.

AudiLover

hes done all that work on it yet its only got 215hp! Either hes lying or his cars fubbared.

gillyz20let

220bhp is about right with a revo and those mods, cant get much more out of turbo as its glowing white when runnin 1.2bar and intake temps are through the roof, best left stock and used for old people to get to asda.

keep your thickness to yourself.

The Chief

Talk about a thread hijack.

This has become a WRX bashing thread by AL - ok i'll admit the standard WRX is not a great ball of fire in the sense that the old Classic was but how many people leave them bog standard, at the very least people PPP them which in the eyes of EVO transforms them.

I wont go into the whys and wherefores but as an overall package a Scooby will do for me.

Hol

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Stop Press***

For all the ASSUMPTION jockeys


Diddy's car is a Classic JDM WRX and NOT a newage WRX.

Hol

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I drove a modded auto once, about 5 years ago. Absolutely hated it. Did 160 no probs but you never really felt in control, even under breaking for a motorway exit in a straight line. Coming into a corner reminded me of a Capri.


Im not saying Subaru's are the best at everything, but on average, they are most consistent and balanced.

If driving a performance car was an endurance race, the Supra driver would struggle.

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For those that didn't know the Supra that we know as the twin Turbo was delayed a year or so, as it was originally planned as a single turbo unit, but Nissan bought out their 300ZX derivative. (Information from TRD).

Toyota put out the interin 3.0 Supra and the Supra as we know it came out.
Only to be outdone the next year by the Skyline.

The Supra, Skyline, 300ZX and GTO are meant to be large heavy Turbo Coupes suited to open roads. They are not meant to be 4wd Performance Saloons.

DiddyWRX

Is that a good or bad thing lol? My WRX isn't standard either!

Andygreer

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Audi Lover.

Im a massive fan of the VAG and have come from the background of VW and Seat.

If a standard Cupra could beat a standard WRX then ill eat my own hat. Even my mates Jabba Tuned Cupra Ibiza couldnt touch my standard WRX at the time. Evn my mates 225 Audi tt couldnt touch it either.

Little clio sports are qucik one they are moving mind ours feels very very nippy, but getting traction isnt a easy thing in the wet or slight damp.

AudiLover

You must be a much better driver than your mates maybe?

wrxcraig

cupra's and astra vxr wouldnt waste my fuel tbh.
Never came across the ST yet.
Audi TT 225 arent what ppl make them out to be imo, i had a vectra st200 running 210bhp with matching torque and i was pushing my m8's TT.

Olivera

0-60 times are an absolute irrelevance. Racing from a standstill usually involves traffic lights and 90% of the time that also means a 30 limit.

In the real world (not scoobynet) people are interested in performance when rolling and in-gear acceleration times - not jacking off to a 0-60 time that can only be achieved by dumping the clutch.

Take away the 0-60 times and you are left with an ugly fuel guzzling car that gets equalled (or bettered) when rolling by FWD competitors.

Hol

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Im sorry but cars like the Clio 182 are for girls! (Or Kids that cannot afford the alternative).
I should know, I bought my wife one.


Seriously though, 4wd IS obviously a drain on power and once rolling is a disadvantage, having extra set of drive shafts. But, that is pretty obvious Physics.


But, the definition of a car loosing control, is when one wheel or more starts turning at a different speed in relation to the other wheels (either locking up, or spinning up).

With 4 driveshafts or 2 driveshafts and a computer, that is more easily overcome and less likely to happen in the first place. That is just plain pretty obvious.

DiddyWRX

Then why are you on here you total tw@

AudiLover

lol I really cant understand how fully grown men cant handle the truth! Shall we sugar coat everything for you standard WRX drivers?

DiddyWRX

Standard....hmmm....no it's not

andythejock01wrx

Hmmm. 4 posts, slagging off Scoobies.

I think I smell troll !

andythejock01wrx

Erm, did you pick up on the fact it's a classic ??

DiddyWRX

Again is this a bad or good thing? lol

AudiLover

so its a little lighter and was rapid compared to other cars when it was originallylaunched, big deal.

andythejock01wrx

Or to put it another way, it has more power and less weight than the car you thought you were talking about !

DiddyWRX

Hhahaha just laugh at the troll as his Audi is PONY!

AudiLover

Sorry what standard scooby has gone round the ring in under 8 mins again?
Audi didnt get a 1650kg luxury family saloon round the ring in under 8 mins you say?

Audi S3 didnt lap a DTM racetrack faster than a STI?




all hail the wrx

Tobisausage

lol, point well made

LG John

LOL Trolling or not he has a point!

I honestly haven't had a single opportunity to use the 'off the lights' performance of my STI since I got it. All my encounters have been rolling from 30mph up - not that that is a great problem in a classic with 300bhp but you catch my drift. There is too much emphasis on this site on quoting 0-60mph times from glossy magazines. That really won't help when an old mans saab areo or 172 cup is blasting past a standard bug/blob WRX.

Andygreer

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Well i think that is also a big factor of the car who knows how to drive it to its limits


Andy

jonc

The spec-c did, and that Audi was modified.

AudiLover

1. Spec C wasnt standard at all
2. The RS4 has done it under 8 mins standard, done so by audi test drivers, and independantlly by sport auto.

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LOL

Same old

A classic import WRX will do 60 to 100 in around 7.5 - 8 seconds through the gears.

A classic UK turbo 2000 in around 9

How does that compare to the current breed of front wheel drive hatches?

*******, you love your stats, you must know?

(PS - import or not, newage, or not, the Supra will **** all over a WRX when modified like for like in ultimate speed)