Janspeed

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Very possible too.

I think it might be the fact the there are hardly any more people with moral values.

AudiLover

People these days no longer stop to help. Thats the problem Labour has ruined this countries self esteem, exactly what the scum wanted.

sarasquares

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i used to roam the streets till all hours when i was a kid. never even entered my head to be scared of anything. i dont remember being told to take care when it got dark.
in Secondary school we had just one black kid who looked really out of place


i dread to think what its going to be like for my 6 year old daughter as she grows up

Janspeed

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Things we surely more relaxed a few years ago.

Shame that most kids wont be able to do what we did when we were younger.

sarasquares

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i cant remember ever seeing anything on the news about abductions and stuff. obviously it happened but very infrequently. we didnt have mobile phones either so had no way of keeping in contact with parents. they just assumed we would be home safe and sound.

i spent my childhood outside from a pretty young age, something my daughter will miss out on. its safer to keep her in doors but not as good for her. kids need freedom but they cant have it anymore

Janspeed

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Strangely enough with all the tech. about, mobile phones, CCTV, things seem so much worse......

Even as teenager it was cool to hang out at night even in the worst of places, there might be a scuffle here and there, but that was it. Nowadays it is all knives and guns....

Thankfully the memory remains!

AudiLover

Knives are a real problem in british cities, mainly due to african and eastern european teens and young men carrying them about.

My younger brother who is a gym enthusiast like me was telling me the other day how these days he will no longer allow himself to end up in a confrontation even with people he would easily batter the crap out of due to fear of them carrying knives etc.

Its all labours fault really with their bull**** lax laws. These asbo kids know they can **** about all day long and it will take several convictions before they risk being sent off to jail, hence there not being a deterrent there from them to not be anti-social!

Janspeed

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The problem is that more and more often innocent children end up dealing the results of the violence that sinks from the "upper" age layers.....(make sense?)

Janspeed

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In other words, no one is safe anymore!

Thoughout the whole social/age/race spectrum!

kingofturds

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We have a bloke walking free in our town, despite having stabbed someone to death only 6 years ago. 5 years for manslaughter out in 4

Janspeed

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Are serious??

Even here in Portugal they get more time in the slammer ffs!

kingofturds

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BBC NEWS | England | Cornwall | Five years for dog mess killing

Fraid not he can often be heard bragging about this in the local fookin scumbag

case of media bollox, this bloke has been known to be prone to violent outbursts, although not actually being charged for it

Janspeed

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Wow! Thanks for the info, now where is my Rambo knife........I need it to cut my nails!

That is such a bad precedent, the judge should be ashamed!

f1_fan

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I think you'll find that started in the 80s actually with a certain 'I'm alright Jack' mentality instilled by the government of the day. Admittedly this government have not done anything to reverse that situation, but to blame it squarely at their door is at best naive and at worst blinkered.

Still it must be true as I read it on Scoobynet

Lee247

I really hope they find her, safe and well and very soon

Dazza's-STi

What a f$%^%$ stupid comment, I'd be stunned if you could make that statment if you had children!!!! How the $£% is leaving the three most precious items you have been given the responcibilty of looking after alone in a room you have NO control over whatsoever, and then going completely out of site from the location ISN'T irrespocible I'll never know... The children where barley toddlers, babies... How anyone could leave 3 babies locked in a room by themselves is staggering... there's so many other things that could happen let alone being abducted
And what on earth has seeing kids by themsleves on a council estate got to do with with leaving 3 babies locked in a room when your not there... What exactly...
do you have 3 year old...! ever had one...?
ALL of mine have woken up in the night screaming and scared, i certainly would'nt like to think they were in that state for 15mins in a dark room...

Other than talking total bollox, i wouldn't like to think you ever had the respocibilty of looking after babies, and with dumb comments like that thinking that its acceptable is just plain stupid.

As for the parents they made a totally irrespocible and almost reckless mistake with there childrens lives... simple as! no toddler should be left out of site for a period of time, and in this day and age certainly not as 2-3 year old in a locked room & somewhere you have no control over.

Now I couldn't even begin to understand the anguish these two are feeling and if it happend to my kids i think i'd have to be sedated until it was sorted i'd be that distraut, let alone the wife. How they are coping i'll never know but i hope and prey that she's returned safely and that it ends well. I really really feel for them I couldn't imagine what they are going through.

its a sad sad situation, and truly hope she's returned ok.

Prince Popeye

Calm down and stop frothing at the mouth Dazza. LOL overreaction to my comment as usual or what. You don't know anything about me so commenting on my parenting skills for what i said is perhaps even more stupid. Don't tell me your a psychic

I was merely pointing out that gangs could quite easily ****** kids playing on their own in housing estates etc. Maybe thats more irresponsible than a locked room when the kids r asleep and being checked on???

Make up your mind. First thing your saying these people are irresponsible and implying they shouldn't have kids like myself and next your giving them a group hug

great stuff dazza keep it up

Janspeed

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As it has been said before, stop going on about the parents and what they did or did not do!

I think by now that is secondary to the real issue!

Diesel

I dont - analysis/learning is good.. I left my kid once 'safe' fast asleep in a hotel whilst we were a few yards away as mentioned [nothing happened!!!!]. I still need to learn from this though and I am still not convinced that what we did was an irresponsible thing to do. Following thread with interest...

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Janspeed

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I was not having a go at you, just thought out loud about the thread in general.

Diesel

I know mate. We are all rattling at this one. Horrendous.

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gardenstar

I can only imagine the fear that the child's parents are going through.


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Prince Popeye

This just sums up what sort of people are contributing towards this thread. You sound like one of those hospital spokesmen who say all this PC stuff about 'need to learn our mistakes etc' after some unfortunate event.

LOL Diesel can imagine you now writing a mental note in your diary about convincing yourself it wasn't irrespnosible. Stop dwelling on all this and live god dammit

KiwiGTI

Or worse, you can't even slap someone without the risk of having a hitman hired.

'Black widow' jailed over bungled gangland hit | Metro.co.uk

bonerp

Was going to add this, then read the last page of comments and thought better of it, but bollox, here goes:

I am a parent and would never leave my child in a room where I wasn't locked inside the same property with (ie my house) or wasnt in eye sight of. Mines 4. Leaving these kids over 50m away and round the corner is appalling.

However I can't begin to imagine what the parents are going through and how much more guilty they are being made to feel by the likes of the media and US!

Its a terrible thing to have happened and the portuguese law doesn;t seem to be helping either with regard to withholding info!

However, I really pray they find her safe and well very soon. Can't imagine the grief Madeleine must be going through let alone the parents. The ****** that took her should be castrated at the ***** and be allowed to bleed to death.
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Drunken Bungle Whore

Some people have suggested that the parents are paying the price for their "mistake" but they're not, they're only going to have to live with the consequences of their actions.

The person who's really paying for their "mistake" is a very frightened 3 year old little girl - personally my thoughts are with her more than with her parents right now.

The Zohan

I agree with the second part of what you say, IMHO the parents created the circumstancs that lead to this situation. The scum who did this are ultimately to blame, the parents will have to live with the consequences of their actions.
As for the little girl then who knows. I hope for the best and fear the worse.

poor little thing...

Janspeed

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Any news on the situation today??

Have not been near a TV or paper...............

TelBoy

The "Missing Girl in Portugal" thread- six below this one - has the latest, funnily enough.

Janspeed

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You would think that this one, being the first one would suffice!