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Old 12 May 2007, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx-kris
how nasty can you get?

posting something so tasteless on a public forum!
and some muppet actually took a picture!




get a grip mate
Old 12 May 2007, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx-kris
you really are a numb-nut!



Wtf stupid dog shouldnt have attacked it then, I dont think that all those spikes happened at once either.. the fact that its not in the dogs eyes makes me think its fake.. but still... stupid dog
Old 12 May 2007, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
are you people proud when your dog kills another animal?
I wasn't proud when one of mine killed a skunk, as I was too busy being irritated by the smell.

However, if he'd have caught a deer................
Old 12 May 2007, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000TLondon
I wasn't proud when one of mine killed a skunk, as I was too busy being irritated by the smell.

However, if he'd have caught a deer................
If the dog had cuaght and killed a dear I'd probably be impressed
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i think some of you lot need to give your heads a good wobble.


me, i hate the breed, in fact i hate most terriers, in general, they have an aggressive nature and yes, im fully aware that its not all terriers that go around eating kids, its the minority that get them the bad name, but its in there nature never the less. When did you last hear of a poodle or a retriever eating a kid????


people are entitled to there oppinion as are you, no matter what it is, so belt up, if people dont like the dogs, thats up to them.


If it is real, it really does show you how clever that dog was, alright, it probably got a little pissed being spiked once, maybe even the first 10, but you really would have thought it would have the sense to stop before it got to that kind of level. UNLESS it was in a blind rage, then, that just goes to prove that damn things dangerous, doesnt it
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
i think some of you lot need to give your heads a good wobble.


me, i hate the breed, in fact i hate most terriers, in general, they have an aggressive nature and yes, im fully aware that its not all terriers that go around eating kids, its the minority that get them the bad name, but its in there nature never the less. When did you last hear of a poodle or a retriever eating a kid????


people are entitled to there oppinion as are you, no matter what it is, so belt up, if people dont like the dogs, thats up to them.


If it is real, it really does show you how clever that dog was, alright, it probably got a little pissed being spiked once, maybe even the first 10, but you really would have thought it would have the sense to stop before it got to that kind of level. UNLESS it was in a blind rage, then, that just goes to prove that damn things dangerous, doesnt it

Kinda stepping on my point in a much more logical way there Jimbo
Old 12 May 2007, 04:20 PM
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you men are like women, bitchy!! Funny read, the dog was stupid to not walk off after the first couple of spikes!!
Old 12 May 2007, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
i think some of you lot need to give your heads a good wobble.


me, i hate the breed, in fact i hate most terriers, in general, they have an aggressive nature and yes, im fully aware that its not all terriers that go around eating kids, its the minority that get them the bad name, but its in there nature never the less. When did you last hear of a poodle or a retriever eating a kid????


people are entitled to there oppinion as are you, no matter what it is, so belt up, if people dont like the dogs, thats up to them.


If it is real, it really does show you how clever that dog was, alright, it probably got a little pissed being spiked once, maybe even the first 10, but you really would have thought it would have the sense to stop before it got to that kind of level. UNLESS it was in a blind rage, then, that just goes to prove that damn things dangerous, doesnt it
Sometimes in here you get a post that absolutely hits the nail bang on the head. This is one of those posts.
Old 12 May 2007, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie Slowfart
Any dog with 'bull' in it's name should be tossed in the canal at birth.

Anything constructive to say????????????????
Your obviously under educated on a subject that perhaps you shouldnt comment on.
Old 12 May 2007, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobydoo160
Anything constructive to say????????????????
Your obviously under educated on a subject that perhaps you shouldnt comment on.

before you go making statment like that, perhaps you ought to put your brain into gear before the fingers,


how do you know he hasnt had a friend or family member suffer an attack by one of these dogs???


i know a little lad thats had an attack, and what a mess he has to live with for the rest of his life, english bull terrier, they should ne be allowed to breed them in my book, put them down and erradicate the breed if people cant look after them, goes for many other breeds too
Old 12 May 2007, 05:16 PM
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Good point there, EVO.

I, nor have any family or friends ever been the victim of a devil dog attack. Nobody I know has ever owned one.

As a youth though, I was savaged by a turbot
Old 12 May 2007, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
how do you know he hasnt had a friend or family member suffer an attack by one of these dogs???
What difference does that make? It's still a narrow minded, blinkered opinion regardless.
Old 12 May 2007, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gatecrasher3
What difference does that make? It's still a narrow minded, blinkered opinion regardless.


so what, is it against scoobynet policy like, no, so stop bleeting on singing the same old tune
Old 12 May 2007, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
i think some of you lot need to give your heads a good wobble.


me, i hate the breed, in fact i hate most terriers, in general, they have an aggressive nature and yes, im fully aware that its not all terriers that go around eating kids, its the minority that get them the bad name, but its in there nature never the less. When did you last hear of a poodle or a retriever eating a kid????


people are entitled to there oppinion as are you, no matter what it is, so belt up, if people dont like the dogs, thats up to them.


If it is real, it really does show you how clever that dog was, alright, it probably got a little pissed being spiked once, maybe even the first 10, but you really would have thought it would have the sense to stop before it got to that kind of level. UNLESS it was in a blind rage, then, that just goes to prove that damn things dangerous, doesnt it
Firstly, NO DOG HAS AN AGGRESSIVE NATURE, aggression is taught. In this instance, the dog was hunting, attacking, and attempting to kill prey. As I said before, no different from a cat and a mouse. Your post may be "just your opinion" but it is directed in the wrong way. Ignorance and stupidity by owners is the problem. Sadly, some misguided people are attracted to terriers, and other powerful dogs, for their "image", which is reinforced by people "hating" a breed through no fault of the breed itself. You should pity the poor dogs who have to live with owners who want them only for image / protection / security and are totally irresponsible with them.


Secondly, this would have been a very quick incident, the porcupine does not release a quill / spike / needle one at a time, the dog has probably mauled the porcupine, and the porcupine has triggered it's defences and unloaded all of it's spikes in one or two goes. The quills detach from the porcupine very, very easily, are very sharp, and lodge in the target, making them effective as a deterent. This would not have been a comdey scenario where the dog gets stuck once, goes back, gets stuck twice, goes back, gets a third, etc etc etc......

Thirdly, I used to have a Golden Retriever, and he was a great family dog. I now have two Rottweilers, they are a pair of great family dogs. Either of these three dogs could attack humans if I taught them to...... I won't, so they won't........

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I don't wish to add petrol to a fire, but I don't believe that all dogs arrive in this world without aggression. Aggression can be taught that is for sure. An evil human can make even a placid dog into a monster. However, there are some breeds that are more likely to be aggressive that others, and some of those breeds are also unfortunately capable fighters. The combination can be nasty.

For me its a hard call, as if you look after a fighting dog well they are normally well behaved, but the potential is always there. My friend has a fighting dog some strange Jap thing that I cannot pronounce. He loves it, nearly always gentle, but some rare days its just in a bad mood. I find that a little scary
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Dogs are a predator, Agression is inate, it can be brought out by training or it can be nearer the surface due to breeding or just the individual dog, it can also be brought on by stress or illness.

You can have a non agressive Pitbull or a Chihuahua with a bad attitude.

The one in the picture looks kind of like an English Bull Terrier to me anyway, I am also wondering what a bald Porculpine looks like, in the case, bald, and smug !
Old 12 May 2007, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Luminous
I don't wish to add petrol to a fire, but I don't believe that all dogs arrive in this world without aggression. Aggression can be taught that is for sure. An evil human can make even a placid dog into a monster. However, there are some breeds that are more likely to be aggressive that others, and some of those breeds are also unfortunately capable fighters. The combination can be nasty.

For me its a hard call, as if you look after a fighting dog well they are normally well behaved, but the potential is always there. My friend has a fighting dog some strange Jap thing that I cannot pronounce. He loves it, nearly always gentle, but some rare days its just in a bad mood. I find that a little scary
I understand what you are saying, there are many breeds that were bred for fighting, and they can be intimidating and scary, but that doesn't make them aggressive. Your friends dog has never been aggressive by the sound of it, unless a "bad mood" mean he is attacking your friend?

And your point of some breeds are more likely to be "aggressive" than others is true, but only because idiots will buy specific "hard" breeds and train them to be aggressive....
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There's no such thing as a dangerous dog only dangerous owners.......
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no dog has an aggressive nature, you think, they used that breed for fighting for a reason


yeah, sure you could could train aretriever to attack people, but it would be a lot harder to train than it would a terrier. Totally aggree with some of the tyoes of people buying them, but again, there getting them for a reason.


and your point about the spine release, look at the pictures, that was done either by several animals, or several times by 1 animal, look at the angles lol

either way, very stupid dog, probably why some say throw it in the canal,

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Originally Posted by funb0b
There's no such thing as a dangerous dog only dangerous owners.......




there speaks an educated person


suppose your going to say great white sharks are not dangerous next eh, and its entierly the swimmers fault jaws ate him
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Ask a Rabbit whether a Lurcher is aggessive ?
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Ask a Rabbit whether a Lurcher is aggessive ?
If a lurcher was aggressive, it would never get the rabbit, it would be wasting too much time and energy . The lurcher is hunting instinctively.......
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION


and your point about the spine release, look at the pictures, that was done either by several animals, or several times by 1 animal, look at the angles lol

either way, very stupid dog, drown it, throw it in the canal,
Maybe you should learn something about porcupines, then dogs, then come back and display some knowledge......

Google is quite good for finding things out and learning stuff!
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Originally Posted by 2000TLondon
Maybe you should learn something about porcupines, then dogs, then come back and display some knowledge......

Google is quite good for finding things out and learning stuff!


what is it i need to learn like
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION



there speaks an educated person


suppose your going to say great white sharks are not dangerous next eh, and its entierly the swimmers fault jaws ate him
What a platitudinous eunuch.

And I suppose all teenagers instinctively just start wearing hoddies and mugging old ladies.

Hardly the same thing...........

As a responsible owner of 5 EBT's for the last 15 year's and other breeds mainly all rescue, I can say from a plateau of experience that EBT's in particular are no more or less aggressive than any other breed, only when low life idiots encourage such behaviour.

As you brought it up Great White attacks on humans are largely due to cases of mistaken identity as the staple diet of the Great White is seals, which look undeniable like people in black dry suits and flippers.
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
what is it i need to learn like
Well, the ability to read and absorb information for starters.

I clearly stated what I thought you should research in my last post.

If you have time, try English for beginners, too......
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Originally Posted by funb0b
What a platitudinous eunuch.

And I suppose all teenagers instinctively just start wearing hoddies and mugging old ladies.

Hardly the same thing...........

As a responsible owner of 5 EBT's for the last 15 year's and other breeds mainly all rescue, I can say from a plateau of experience that EBT's in particular are no more or less aggressive than any other breed, only when low life idiots encourage such behaviour.

As you brought it up Great White attacks on humans are largely due to cases of mistaken identity as the staple diet of the Great White is seals, which look undeniable like people in black dry suits and flippers.
Blown out of the water there, again, EVOLUTION! Ignorance isn't bliss afterall!
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i havent been blown out the water at all you muppet, as stated before everyones entitled to there oppinion, simple as that.


just cos hes bread small pigs for 15 years means nowt. Again, i stated before there not all like that, but there are more baduns in the terrier world, that is a fact
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
I haven't been blown out the water at all you muppet, as stated before everyone's entitled to their opinion, simple as that.


Just 'cause he's bread small pigs for 15 years means nowt. Again, I stated before they're not all like that, but there are more bad'uns in the terrier world, that is a fact
It's just your opinion, but why not try to learn something about the topic, and be less aggressive about things you don't understand fully?


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