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Old 14 May 2007, 12:26 PM
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Another problem with this advert was the seemingly rather spurious attempt at inserting an "Teen Morality" aspect in there. Boy A and Girl B, getting frisky, maybe about to get it on.....

When, wouldn't you know it, here comes a rolling car: Boy killed, girl effectively crippled from the waist down!!

Co-incidence??? Maybe, maybe not.......

Powerful depiction of consequences of an accident, but confounded speed with reckless driving. Also, no exposition of the driver as a "typical person" so the viewer immediately disassociates themselves from the cuplprit and reverts to: "it won't happen to me" denial.

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Old 14 May 2007, 12:34 PM
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Withdrawn due to copyright infringement, good to see they want to spread the message, eh ?
Old 14 May 2007, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Another problem with this advert was the seemingly rather spurious attempt at inserting an "Teen Morality" aspect in there. Boy A and Girl B, getting frisky, maybe about to get it on.....

When, wouldn't you know it, here comes a rolling car: Boy killed, girl effectively crippled from the waist down!!

Co-incidence??? Maybe, maybe not.......

Powerful depiction of consequences of an accident, but confounded speed with reckless driving. Also, no exposition of the driver as a "typical person" so the viewer immediately disassociates themselves from the cuplprit and reverts to: "it won't happen to me" denial.

Ns04

Good point, would have been better if it had been a middle ages women I think !!
Old 14 May 2007, 02:03 PM
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I find the speed limits they have in ROI are a bit strange, in that they depend on the road classification instead of the type of road. An N road is 100 kph, an R road is 80 kph.

So the narrow, twisty, badly surfaced road round the Ring Of Kerry has a 100 kph limit, whereas a newly constructed, wide and well surfaced R road would have an 80 kph limit. Not many bits of the Ring of Kerry that I'd fancy taking at 100kph

Not that many drivers over there obey the speed limits anyway
Old 14 May 2007, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tart Man
Yes its a hard hitting advert on teh CONSEQUENCES of an accient.

However the the producers of the advert should have done more home work when thinking up a good accident scienario, due to the following

1. You can flip a car several times at 20mph...just need an obstacle, curbs or a verges for example do the job nicely....

2. Therefore speed is irrelevent, crap driving should have been the main highlight of this advert for overtaking inappropriatly (which can be done at any speed)

3. If a dog ran out whilst overtaking, how many people would swerve knowing they are alongside another car? Panic or not. That is the cause of the accident, again at 20mph it "could" have had the same or similar consequences. So it totally undermines the point of the advert about speed; Its crap driving, nothing else, and at any speed that is lethal.

4. By not thinking the storyline of the advert through properly and leaving argumentative holes like the above give excuses for people to ignore the advert - undermining its whole intention - pity.

Now, for example, if the storyline was a car going wide round a bend due to understeering from excess speed and hitting an oncomming car then that clearly can be blamed on speed (in combination to crap driving). And it is a scienario that is VERY common on our roads, and it could have the same end consequence.

Oh well, another ad filed alongside the "Now you see him, Now you don't" advert
If you look at the overall causes and effects of accidents, which is how the authorities have to after all, you cannot say that speed is irrelevant. It will nearly always pay a part in the accident in some way.

As you said, speed will affect the consequences of an accident and that cannot be denied. Of course poor driving can also be a major factor, as can road conditions, particularly unsual ones which could not be forecast such as a diesel spill.

When it comes to speed, not only can it dictate the stronger likelihood of an accident occurring due to the ability to control a car in the event of a dangerous situation but it will also reduce the safety margins in all respects.

Years ago when the traffic density was very low in comparison to now, it was perfectly safe to drive fast since you could go a long way before seeing another vehicle. The driving standard was generally much better too since people took a pride in their skill to control older cars with awkward gearboxes and rotten handling and brakes compared with modern cars. These days the traffic is neverending at most times of the day and also modern cars are driven faster too. This makes it more difficult to overtake and also the chance of meeting a vehicle coming the other way going fast are extremely high.

These circumstances make it more dangerous and unfair to other road users to drive at high speeds, however good a driver you may consider yourself to be. The roads after all are there to enable vehicles to travel safely to destinations and not for the likes of us with high powered cars to drive on the limit as though we were on a track with no cars coming the other way.

Nothing wrong with driving fast but within the limits imposed by road conditions with thought for others on the road who don't wish to drive like that. We do not have a god given right to treat the roads as an excuse to show off our expertise at the wheel and to sneer at the slower drivers.

Best way to have your fun is to go on a track day or two where you can find out how good you really are!

Les
Old 14 May 2007, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000

Good point, would have been better if it had been a middle ages women I think !!
At least the boy wasn't sipping from a can of Dr. Pepper before it happened....

*Sings*

"Dr. Pepper, what's the worst that could happen"

*Boy looks up*

Awwwww **** it!!!!!



Ns04

PS Feeling guilty about that bad taste joke, even though no teenagers were actually hurt during the making of that film!
Old 14 May 2007, 03:56 PM
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erm, i cant watch the advert, says its been removed. any other links?
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