Felix.

You have never had dealings with me then

Felix.

The public perception is also that our heads go all the way up inside our helmets and the panda cars can travel at 300 mph

Felix.

Well these are clearly wrong. If you have given named suspects then these should have been arrested and interviewed.

They way I would have dealt with that would be to get them in asap and interview them. We would need statements/video interviews of your son and friends, SOCO, medical reports of injuries – with a view of charging the suspects when they answer their bail.

I had a similar case not so long back in which I was given 3 nick names. I was able to trace who they were and where they lived. Found them all at other addresses, arrested them, obtained statements, medicals, SOCO photos, got further witnesses through the press, CCTV – put the case to CPS and eventually charged them all with the assault. All were advised to go guilty by their solicitors at court due to the evidence. All within the space of about 1 month – not bad.

Felix.

I don’t know why it took so long, again if they were named suspects then it should have been a higher priority. If its gone onto the job que, then bare in mind that they will be about another 100 jobs waiting, each of which will have someone demanding police there asap. If I attended Alcazas assault I would be tied up with that for the rest of the day or more. So you can see our officer’s availability lessens

The people checking for car tax etc will be the ANPR team. They also search for crime cars, disqual drivers, drug runners etc. Most of these are now civilianised and so could not attend your incident. The only police element to this would be the traffic cars parked in a lay by 2 mile up the road.

I take it that no-one witnessed it – only the CCTV. It’s interesting that on another thread they were dead against CCTV.

It’s a theft by the way – not a robbery

StickyMicky

1 man can not change the force............

Leslie

Felix,

I am sure you realise that we are not criticising you in particular and also you deserve credit for posting on here to inform us.

There is no doubt however that the treatment that some people receive over different incidents is very disappointing and does not live up to our expectations of the Force in general.

Les

logiclee

Felix,

Thanks for your input into the thread.

As I said earlier I deal with the Police weekly, our last beat office was first class, I've still to make my mind up about our new one but I'll give him a fair chance before I make my mind up. We've also had the South African Officer with the highest arrest rate in the country but he didn't suit community policing he likes to arrest criminals too much.
What you have mentioned above is a resource issue and that's where your senior officers set spending policy and that's where the Government targets come in.
They know the money is not spent in the right places but funding is driven by the need to meet targets.
Our beat officer and PCSO's are based nearly 4 miles from the area they police without a car, it's £4k a year to place them directly on their own patch. Our local Inspector has even campaigned with the local councillors to have them based locally but the Chief Super has refused as it's not an area for priority funding.
That's just £4k a year to have his team of officers based amongst the community just think of the positive effect that would have on the police's profile.

The cost of a days ANPR operation probably comes to more than £4k with the staff and vehicles involved.

Cheers
Lee

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

I can believe that last bit about £4k, Lee, but hey, money well spent, eh?

Here in North Lincs, the local fuzz built THREE new copshops, for more local policing.

They close at night and at weekends, since they forgot to figure in how much to staff them

There was an article in the local rag last week asking why more people hadn't signed up to staff 'em for free

Maybe they ought to put some of the Scamera money into staffing the copshops, instead of buying more cameras?

Alcazar

Felix.

But if they were staffed all night, you would have people complaining that the police in there just sit around all night and do nothing.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

OK, I accept that, (you mean police on nights really do do something? )

But my point is that the police authority, which includes senior officers, DIDN'T remember that they couldn't afford to staff the new stations when they spent the money building them. Daft. AND it means even more people looking askance at how the police is run. And what money is spent on.

Alcazar

Leslie

That really is a very feeble attempt at a defence!

Les

simonbb1328

The police service is fooked.
First of all it is target driven
Calls are always graded by the operators for the responce
We have to deal with the lowest form of life 96% of the time who treat the service like a jeremy kyle show and call us every 2 mins even tho they dont contribute anything to society.
Because of the government and the court system criminals have more rights than decent hard working members of the public because of this so called HUMAN RIGHTS legislation. What about the victims human rights?
The court system is fooked letting these scum walk away with nothing but they will send an OAP to prison for 6month for refusing to pay the rise in tax?
The whole police system is measured on these targets which go to performance.
They bought PCSOs in which yeah fair enough to the average decent member of the public it looks like more police are out on the street but in reality they cant do naff all, a complete waist of time, any criminal knows this but for the government they could get double the PCSO's than urgently needed police for the money.
Every time someone is arrested, they know how to play and state they are suicidal so a police officer has to sit outside the cell watching them instead of being on the streets.
Before I start on a bigger rant........
You get ***** in any job who let the side down..... unfortunately this cant be helped.
I take pride when I can actually deal with a decent job for decent people and spend the time needed to do a professional job and help as much as I can.
To finish it is nothing the police alone can change it is all down to the government who have no clue about anything other than sitting on there fat asses deciding on how much of a pay rise they should give themselves.

Leslie

That seems fair enough to me!

Les