Infractfree

I think their poor little girl is the one who has been handed the ultimate punishment. The idea that they should face justice isn't about vengence but sending out a message that their behaviour was not only illegal but also unacceptable.

I'm sure that there are still toerags out there who would do exactly the same as they did, despite all the publicity. Perhaps the idea of a spell behind bars might put them off?

SiPie

Agree and totally see your point but combine the loss of their child and the guilt that will twist (and rightly so) within them for years to come and will possibly break both of them and no doubt their marriage.....

I reckon enough is enough

amahrap

As would have a drunk parent who ejected their children through the windscreen of their car after an accident killing them. They would still be punished for the offense of drink driving.

A offence is an offence, being really very, very sorry 'Your Honour' shouldn't sway the Judicial process

stilover

Try writing a post without calling someone a Tw@T for once.

I feel sorry for your kids. You really do come over as an angry uneducated idiot. Live on a council estate do we?

Pillock

I'm anything but `PC` but IMO and others, grabbing a women by the scruff of the neck was an over reaction. Saying you'd happily take a pasting for helping a child just confirms that you'd happily give someone a pasting for helping your child.

As said above, uneducated. Punch first, ask questions later.

DCI Gene Hunt

and relax..............

stilover

Now relaxed.


Thanks

Iwan

Yes but I'm sure the £700k+ in their "fighting fund" will help them get over it...

SiPie

Lets just hope they do the right thing and give all the cash to the National Missing Persons Helpline or similar ....

I doubt it however

davegtt

You think? Anyone who would trade £700k for their child is the lowest of the low. I refuse to believe there are people out there like that (yes I know there prob are before you say owt)

The Zohan

Sadly i think there are people who will, look at Thailand for example, people selling thier kids onto the sex trade is not unknown.

It is appauling and i as a parent cannot imagine ever doing such a thing, i would rather sell my kidney or whatever than do something so vile. Kids should be nurtured and protected by their parents and adults not abused and mistreated.

Thinking about it just upsets me and makes me both angry and very sad (if you know what i mean)

CrisPDuk

This would explain the efforts of some of our Chief Constables to lower the standards of service their forces provide

Marky-San

Oi ****! - your comments are really cutting me to the bone. I'm literally in tears reading your response. Tears of laughter that is.

Is that your BEST response?

stilover

= = = = =

Iwan

I was kind of being sarcastic, just wondering what they'll do with the "fighting fund" once she's found. Hopefully they'll donate it to the NSPCC or some other good cause.

Snazy

I hope thats the case too mate.
As I have said on numerous occasions, 8 children are reported missing in the UK every hour... Work out how many reports there have been since Maddie went, and see how many of the names you know

douglasb

Snazy - as I have said on a previous thread where you quoted the figure of 8 children reported missing every hour in the UK, please provide a source for this figure. Also, please tell us how many of these children turn up safe and well having been at a friend or neighbour's house? You didn't provide this information the last time I asked, so I'll ask again.

I notice that you've edited SiPie's post to mention the National Missing Persons Helpline. I've had a quick look at their website and it doesn't support your figures.

That's 2 per hour and it's missing people, not missing children. Look at the website and you'll see that there are a variety of age ranges of missing people.

Again, from the website of the organisation that you mention.

The National Missing Persons Helpline website also acknowledges that some people (and remember that they deal with adults as well as children) choose to disappear for their own reasons.

Also, have a look at National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Search for all children reported missing in the last year and still missing and only 20 names and photos come up. On the home page, this site is described as "A Police Website Dedicated to Finding Missing and Abducted Children". If your "8 per hour" figure is correct that implies a total of 70,000 missing children per year. What happened to the other 69,980?

Now, if you really have figures to support that 8 children go missing in the UK every hour and that they don't turn up safely fairly shortly afterwards, and that this isn't being reported by national media, please tell us your sources of this information. Until you do, I'll take your figures with a huge pinch of salt.

Bubba po

Statistics are like an L.E.D encrusted jockstrap, doug. More for support than for illumination.

douglasb

As is a lamppost for a drunk!

Bubba po

Yes, that's the origin of the quote.

Anyone for a glow-in-the-dark brassiere?

douglasb

If we're going to do bra jokes...

The Glasgow Rangers bra - loads of support, but no cups.

The Sheepdog bra - rounds them up and points them in the right direction.

Maybe better leave it at that and let the thread continue on its previous direction....

Bubba po

Fair enough.

Sauron

Found this photo showing where apartment is in relation to the Tapas bar.
They way it is being put over in media is as if they were in direct line of sight
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Infractme!

Exactly what I've been saying all along since this sorry saga first started.

They just abandoned the children and went off to enjoy themselves. That's why they should be prosecuted.

The Snug Rhino

If only they could build those places with doors and windows in the front as well.

TelBoy

My version;

They took a (mis)-calculated risk whilst relaxed on holiday, to have a meal away from the confines of their villa in a location they believed was close enough to their children for them to be able to monitor them visually and with occasional checks, and were very unfortunate to have been subjected to a planned child abduction.

That's why prosecution will only serve to appease the witchhunters.

Geezer

Surely prosecution should ensue if the law has been broken? Ignorance, as they say, is no defence in the eyes of the law.....

I don't know the law in Portugal though, it may be perfectly legal to do this. They could not be prosecuted by in an English court, they have committed no crime over here.

Geezer

Infractme!

Tel, something either is in sight or it isn't. One doesn't 'believe it was close enough to monitor them visually', you can either see it or you cannot.

In this case what they did was go somewhere they knew they couldn't see their children from. For all they knew the kids could have been burning to death in there.

As it happened someone took one and we're all agreed that's terrible. What i can't understand is how anyone think they should be allowed to get away with it.

Not a witchhunt but justice being seen to be done in this very high profile case.

It most certainly isn't legal to abandon your children like they did in Portugal either.

TelBoy

Legally yes i wouldn't be surprised if somebody somewhere tries to push for a prosecution - if the sentiments on here are anything to go by i'm sure they'll have to form an orderly queue, twice around the block.

TelBoy

So if your kids are playing in a field next to your house, are you not guilty of neglect whilst you can actually see them running about, but liable to the baying masses if something happens to them whilst they're climbing up a tree just out of sight or something similar?

In my mind i'd be VERY sorry if each and every case of something happening to kids while they weren't in literal eyesight of the parents became litigant. I hate nanny states.

AndyWalker

they shouldnt go on holiday with their kids if they want to go somewhere where the kids cant/dont want to go. Its either leave them safely at home with family looking after them, or dont go out to the tapas bar! to take the "mis calculated risk" you talk about is stupid

and would there be the same reaction to all this if it was a single, young, unemployed parent from a rough area who left her kid that got snatched? or has the whole thing taken a different light as they are both top of the range "responsible" professionals within the medical profession??