My sympathy is wearing thin...
30 May 2007, 08:55 AM
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30 May 2007, 08:57 AM
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Thye fact that they can manage it in the wake of such a nightmare gains maximum respect from me.
You see people everyday keeping it topgether until after the funeral etc....it only falls to bits when you have closure. This is something this family don't have so understandably they are busy doing what they can.
Especially considering the guilt that must be ripping them to bits at the moment. Damned sure I'd be keeping myself busy
30 May 2007, 08:58 AM
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So their choices are; see the Pope and hope that the additional publicity might help in some way, or, because of the twins, stay put in Portugal and carry on as before, or drag them all the way to Italy just so that they can physically "see" them.
Come on, those kids have probably got armed guards around them at the moment, there is absolutely NO appreciable risk from the parents leaving them. Whether a trip to the Vatican will make any difference is another matter.
30 May 2007, 08:59 AM
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30 May 2007, 09:07 AM
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30 May 2007, 09:08 AM
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Again, where and when, Sonic? You can't just criticise "the media" like that without being specific. The father's brief return to the UK was widely reported.
30 May 2007, 09:08 AM
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The father came back to the UK, don't think the mother did though
30 May 2007, 09:10 AM
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30 May 2007, 09:11 AM
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It was on Radio One News this morning, approx 8.30am
I know the Father returned to the UK, I saw his pictures plastered all over the tabloids
My point is that this morning on the 8.30 news on Radio 1, it was said that the Parents are to visit the Pope, and it will be the 1st time that THEY have left Portugal since Maddie went missing
I know the Father returned to the UK, I saw his pictures plastered all over the tabloids
My point is that this morning on the 8.30 news on Radio 1, it was said that the Parents are to visit the Pope, and it will be the 1st time that THEY have left Portugal since Maddie went missing
30 May 2007, 09:15 AM
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They had been in touch with the press to tell them thay would be taking the walk, they didn't want to answer questions but they were happy to be filmed taking the walk. That's a staged event.
30 May 2007, 09:18 AM
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I'll eat my hat if it was the parents who made that information available, rather than friends or relatives who thought/hoped the pictures would raise public awareness. Don't tell me you think the mother carrying the girl's bed toy was deliberate too?
30 May 2007, 09:19 AM
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30 May 2007, 09:20 AM
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I feel dreadfully sorry for Maddie McCann who was stolen away in the night by god knows who to suffer god knows what. I also feel sickened by the thought as the parent of a young child that it might happen to my family, which I believe is where the real angst for most of us is.
However my sympathy has started the wear a little thin.
The parents, who regularly left their three children alone in the apartment whilst on the original holiday, are now flying around Europe on a private Gulfstream Jet, they have an audience with the Pope, they are staying at the Ambassador's apartment in the Vatican.
They raise £300,000 in a private, non-charitable fund with no public oversight and the Treasury announced that they were going to find a way so they didn't have to pay VAT (I wish I didn't have to pay VAT). The money is being used to fund a 'legal team'. I am confused, I have lost my daughter wtf do I need an expensive British legal team for.
And on top of it all, the slightest erring or wavering on the part of the Portuguese police and the family is up in arms about it.
Well maybe if they had been more attentive to their own duties to start with then this MAY not have happened.
And right at the end of this - they protest how much they love their kids and how much they are there for them - and yet pretty much most days since the event they have left their two young twins at the resort day care and have now left them in Portugal whilst on their trip to see the Pope.
At the same time around the world a child dies every fifteen seconds, usually because they don't have clean water to drink.
Something to think about.
However my sympathy has started the wear a little thin.
The parents, who regularly left their three children alone in the apartment whilst on the original holiday, are now flying around Europe on a private Gulfstream Jet, they have an audience with the Pope, they are staying at the Ambassador's apartment in the Vatican.
They raise £300,000 in a private, non-charitable fund with no public oversight and the Treasury announced that they were going to find a way so they didn't have to pay VAT (I wish I didn't have to pay VAT). The money is being used to fund a 'legal team'. I am confused, I have lost my daughter wtf do I need an expensive British legal team for.
And on top of it all, the slightest erring or wavering on the part of the Portuguese police and the family is up in arms about it.
Well maybe if they had been more attentive to their own duties to start with then this MAY not have happened.
And right at the end of this - they protest how much they love their kids and how much they are there for them - and yet pretty much most days since the event they have left their two young twins at the resort day care and have now left them in Portugal whilst on their trip to see the Pope.
At the same time around the world a child dies every fifteen seconds, usually because they don't have clean water to drink.
Something to think about.
Indeed, and my thoughts exactly.
I appreciate the need to maintain the publicity, but an audience with the Pope? What about every other family who has had a child abducted for reasons other than their own negligence?
Will the Pope be holding audiences with them as well?
30 May 2007, 09:30 AM
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30 May 2007, 09:34 AM
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Of course carrying the bed toy was deliberate - for all the right reasons, but deliberate never the less.
30 May 2007, 09:38 AM
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However if you are not either aware of, or accept that the media generally make mistakes with alarming regularity accross the entire news spectrum, then you are less savvy than I gave you credit for.
30 May 2007, 09:42 AM
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You're more cynical than me, Devildog!! I think using words like naive to describe their actions in the days after their daughter had been abducted is a little misplaced, i wouldn't be surprised if they can't even remember taking that walk now! I was referrring to the toy in the context of being "staged", not deliberate in the literal sense of the word.
30 May 2007, 09:45 AM
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I can't on this specific case, because I've been trying to avoid it like the plague lately, to be honest.
However if you are not either aware of, or accept that the media generally make mistakes with alarming regularity accross the entire news spectrum, then you are less savvy than I gave you credit for.
However if you are not either aware of, or accept that the media generally make mistakes with alarming regularity accross the entire news spectrum, then you are less savvy than I gave you credit for.
30 May 2007, 09:54 AM
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Rannoch - totally agree with you.
I can't believe parents that had "lost" a child (ugh, sounds like they misplaced their car keys or something) would then go galavanting off to Rome leaving their twins out of their care.
I'm not a parent but I would imagine if similar happend to me, I would be struggling to let my other children out of my sight ever.
I can't believe parents that had "lost" a child (ugh, sounds like they misplaced their car keys or something) would then go galavanting off to Rome leaving their twins out of their care.
I'm not a parent but I would imagine if similar happend to me, I would be struggling to let my other children out of my sight ever.
30 May 2007, 10:02 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't give a rats **** what the UK public or indeed anyone on the planet thought of me and my actions if I thought for a moment it would bring my daughter back safely. I actually find it more sickening that the media have lost interest.
They do appear to be strange people and when your in a foreign country on holiday the last thing you do is leave your child. These people have already shown their naivety of the world by thinking their child would be safe alone. The media could quite easily manipulate these people for their own ends to sell papers.
Big Brother gets a mention on this thread - what an excellent display of audience manipulation that is!? BB can portray any one of those people as the devil himself purely through manipulating what we see and hear.
Soon after she went missing a high ranking police officer from Portugal was on breakfast news and he said the reason why UK media is slating them is because they don't tell thier own media anything about serious crimes in case it ***** up the investigation (happens plenty here). Whether they really have acted incompetently remains to be seen.
I have no idea what has gone on their and I'm not saying that I'm right and the parents have something to do with it (if they did I think she would have been found by now). What I am saying is that if my daughter went missing I'd do every single thing I could to get her back - irrespective of what people thought of me.
I don't think the parents are involved and I also think the child was probably taken on to a boat and has never come back
It also wouldn't surprise me if whoever did this was from the UK. Portugal and neighbouring spain addore kids.
They do appear to be strange people and when your in a foreign country on holiday the last thing you do is leave your child. These people have already shown their naivety of the world by thinking their child would be safe alone. The media could quite easily manipulate these people for their own ends to sell papers.
Big Brother gets a mention on this thread - what an excellent display of audience manipulation that is!? BB can portray any one of those people as the devil himself purely through manipulating what we see and hear.
Soon after she went missing a high ranking police officer from Portugal was on breakfast news and he said the reason why UK media is slating them is because they don't tell thier own media anything about serious crimes in case it ***** up the investigation (happens plenty here). Whether they really have acted incompetently remains to be seen.
I have no idea what has gone on their and I'm not saying that I'm right and the parents have something to do with it (if they did I think she would have been found by now). What I am saying is that if my daughter went missing I'd do every single thing I could to get her back - irrespective of what people thought of me.
I don't think the parents are involved and I also think the child was probably taken on to a boat and has never come back
It also wouldn't surprise me if whoever did this was from the UK. Portugal and neighbouring spain addore kids.
30 May 2007, 10:18 AM
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Interesting the amount of kids who go missing yet they recieve little or no coverage
UK Police National Missing Persons Bureau
United Kingdom - Missing Children Website
I do hope they find her but there should be questions asked about the way in which the parents "look" after their kids
UK Police National Missing Persons Bureau
United Kingdom - Missing Children Website
I do hope they find her but there should be questions asked about the way in which the parents "look" after their kids