My sympathy is wearing thin...
30 May 2007, 04:12 PM
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I've not had much to say about this sad happening, other than I really hope Maddie is found safe and well.
I am very suspicious of the parents, who do seem to be lapping up being the centre of attention.
I have two children and would be mortified if anything every happened to either of them, that is why I have never left them on their own.
I agree with Rannoch, my sympathy for the parents is going very fast, but my thoughts for Maddie will stay for a long time to come
I am very suspicious of the parents, who do seem to be lapping up being the centre of attention.
I have two children and would be mortified if anything every happened to either of them, that is why I have never left them on their own.
I agree with Rannoch, my sympathy for the parents is going very fast, but my thoughts for Maddie will stay for a long time to come
30 May 2007, 04:13 PM
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The parents were a bit stupid to leave the kids and it would have served them right if one had fallen and broken an arm - causing lots of guilt......however, to be snatched is a zillion to one. You may as well say that a parent who doesnt put their kid in a seat belt is asking for it when a plane lands on her car and kills the kids.
And if it were my kid i would meet with ANYONE if i thought it would help - and so would any parent.
The reason this is in the media still is because people are interested - and if they arent why is it the most read thread on SN???
And if it were my kid i would meet with ANYONE if i thought it would help - and so would any parent.
The reason this is in the media still is because people are interested - and if they arent why is it the most read thread on SN???
30 May 2007, 04:26 PM
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I feel dreadfully sorry for Maddie McCann who was stolen away in the night by god knows who to suffer god knows what. I also feel sickened by the thought as the parent of a young child that it might happen to my family, which I believe is where the real angst for most of us is.
However my sympathy has started the wear a little thin.
The parents, who regularly left their three children alone in the apartment whilst on the original holiday, are now flying around Europe on a private Gulfstream Jet, they have an audience with the Pope, they are staying at the Ambassador's apartment in the Vatican.
They raise £300,000 in a private, non-charitable fund with no public oversight and the Treasury announced that they were going to find a way so they didn't have to pay VAT (I wish I didn't have to pay VAT). The money is being used to fund a 'legal team'. I am confused, I have lost my daughter wtf do I need an expensive British legal team for.
And on top of it all, the slightest erring or wavering on the part of the Portuguese police and the family is up in arms about it.
Well maybe if they had been more attentive to their own duties to start with then this MAY not have happened.
And right at the end of this - they protest how much they love their kids and how much they are there for them - and yet pretty much most days since the event they have left their two young twins at the resort day care and have now left them in Portugal whilst on their trip to see the Pope.
At the same time around the world a child dies every fifteen seconds, usually because they don't have clean water to drink.
However my sympathy has started the wear a little thin.
The parents, who regularly left their three children alone in the apartment whilst on the original holiday, are now flying around Europe on a private Gulfstream Jet, they have an audience with the Pope, they are staying at the Ambassador's apartment in the Vatican.
They raise £300,000 in a private, non-charitable fund with no public oversight and the Treasury announced that they were going to find a way so they didn't have to pay VAT (I wish I didn't have to pay VAT). The money is being used to fund a 'legal team'. I am confused, I have lost my daughter wtf do I need an expensive British legal team for.
And on top of it all, the slightest erring or wavering on the part of the Portuguese police and the family is up in arms about it.
Well maybe if they had been more attentive to their own duties to start with then this MAY not have happened.
And right at the end of this - they protest how much they love their kids and how much they are there for them - and yet pretty much most days since the event they have left their two young twins at the resort day care and have now left them in Portugal whilst on their trip to see the Pope.
At the same time around the world a child dies every fifteen seconds, usually because they don't have clean water to drink.
Agree. I switch off now whenever there is any media coverage of them.
30 May 2007, 04:30 PM
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I've not had much to say about this sad happening, other than I really hope Maddie is found safe and well.
I am very suspicious of the parents, who do seem to be lapping up being the centre of attention.
I have two children and would be mortified if anything every happened to either of them, that is why I have never left them on their own.
I agree with Rannoch, my sympathy for the parents is going very fast, but my thoughts for Maddie will stay for a long time to come
I am very suspicious of the parents, who do seem to be lapping up being the centre of attention.
I have two children and would be mortified if anything every happened to either of them, that is why I have never left them on their own.
I agree with Rannoch, my sympathy for the parents is going very fast, but my thoughts for Maddie will stay for a long time to come
Well said
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"They deserve all the help they can get." No way!
My sympathies are with the kid not the parents.
If they had done that in this country kids would now be in care and parents facing charges of neglect.
Did read that it was a regular occurence for them to leave kids in room on their own so they could have some time to themselves.
Just hope they find the kid soon and the parents face Social Services when they come home, are they suitable people to have kids??.
My sympathies are with the kid not the parents.
If they had done that in this country kids would now be in care and parents facing charges of neglect.
Did read that it was a regular occurence for them to leave kids in room on their own so they could have some time to themselves.
Just hope they find the kid soon and the parents face Social Services when they come home, are they suitable people to have kids??.
30 May 2007, 04:40 PM
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I'm not interested in it, but I am interested in moaning about it being on the headlines all the time
As cold as it is to type this; I do like to watch the news and read the headlines for new news, not old news with on-site live reporting following the McCanns all over the place, instead of just posting a pic of the missing girl and giving contact details for anyone with information then moving on to the next story....even worse its taking presidence over it: A nuclear power station has blown up last night and its not even mentioned on the BBC news website until an hour ago, even then its not on the main pages, yet guess whats still on teh front page?...
30 May 2007, 04:47 PM
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By over exposing they are creating a rod for their own back. The public have sympathy and will always have sympathy for the children, however to be forced to follow the McCanns everywhere is a little wearisome. All said and done hopefully Maddy is found safe and well.
30 May 2007, 04:48 PM
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4. The thing I find most distressing is that they said they had a line of sight to the apartment. If you look at the photo of the resort he must have been looking through a telescope as its miles away. Could he see in to the appartment to see one of the children was choking or had fell etc etc! It takes a few minutes to choke to death not half an hour!
As I've said here from the beginning there is no bar/tapas bar in this complex where you can monitor the comings and going from the apartments they were staying at.
It's a fact they abandoned this child and left her where she could not possibly have been watched.
Now they care- of course they do. Their precious child has been taken and is most likely dead. Their actions from the point she went missing onwards are mainly to assuage their guilt and find the girl second IMO.
What I object to is the totality of the hype surrounding this- for example my car (and every other car and truck) was thoroughly searched returning to the UK from Spain last week. For what exactly? It's total overkill.
4. The thing I find most distressing is that they said they had a line of sight to the apartment. If you look at the photo of the resort he must have been looking through a telescope as its miles away. Could he see in to the appartment to see one of the children was choking or had fell etc etc! It takes a few minutes to choke to death not half an hour!
As I've said here from the beginning there is no bar/tapas bar in this complex where you can monitor the comings and going from the apartments they were staying at.
It's a fact they abandoned this child and left her where she could not possibly have been watched.
Now they care- of course they do. Their precious child has been taken and is most likely dead. Their actions from the point she went missing onwards are mainly to assuage their guilt and find the girl second IMO.
What I object to is the totality of the hype surrounding this- for example my car (and every other car and truck) was thoroughly searched returning to the UK from Spain last week. For what exactly? It's total overkill.
30 May 2007, 04:57 PM
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Check this site out United Kingdom - Missing Children Website
Unfortunately not all these kids seem to get the same amount of media coverage.
Unfortunately not all these kids seem to get the same amount of media coverage.
30 May 2007, 05:30 PM
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Check this site out United Kingdom - Missing Children Website
Unfortunately not all these kids seem to get the same amount of media coverage.
Unfortunately not all these kids seem to get the same amount of media coverage.
30 May 2007, 05:54 PM
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It's their cynical behaviour that gets me. We've never had kids and never intend to mainly because we don't want the responsibility that goes with the territory. We like going out for a meal at a moments notice plus all the things that you can't do if you have children without making contingency plans to cater for their needs. The reason I've mentioned my personal preferences is simply to illustrate the point - if you want to go out for a meal with friends, then you use the creche facilities or the baby alarm system. Children bring with them an enormous responsibility.
Now to the reporting. When this story first broke, the parents were checking on them every fifteen minutes, then it was half an hour until it finally arrived at one hour. For that period of time, anything could have happened.
Then, it was supposedly the windows which had forced open until it finally emerged that they'd left the patio doors open which looked out onto the road.
Against this, you then had the family and friends condemning the police for their supposed inaction and generally pointing the finger at all and sundry whilst failing to look at their own actions - or lack of.
There's a world of difference between five minutes inattention when your kids are playing upstairs or in the garden and sodding off for a meal where you can't see your kids building, let alone hear them if they run into trouble.
Whilst they couldn't foresee their child being abducted, there was plenty of scope for misadventure and if others are scared of being castigated for similar behaviour then tough titty.
Whether they're being advised or not, their exploitation of the media and its willingness to go along with it is what is irritating people and as others have said, if it had been some peasant everyone would have immediately condemned them as unfit parents. Funny how these two are not.
The best that can come out of this is that those parents understand that they need to improve their parenting skills.
30 May 2007, 06:03 PM
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If using all resources available to you to find your child is milking it, then yes, they are 'milking' it.
However private jet to personally meet the Pope? How is that going to create more awareness than the Pope broadcasting a 5 minute message through his usual media outlets?
If the McCanns are hugging the spotlight now, wait for the closure. I'd wager there's hours of programmes about this itching to be broadcast once Maddie is found.
However private jet to personally meet the Pope? How is that going to create more awareness than the Pope broadcasting a 5 minute message through his usual media outlets?
If the McCanns are hugging the spotlight now, wait for the closure. I'd wager there's hours of programmes about this itching to be broadcast once Maddie is found.
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sorry state of affairs to here so much negative veiws by so many on here.
I firmly beleive that if your going to cast such veiws then atleast be qualified to do so, e.g loose there own child for real in such a way.
surely we should condem those who feel the right to ****** a beautiful little girl/boy as these sick people share our world and not blame the mcanns.Not just put up with fact sickos are allowed to keep re-offending kill the bast ards.
i for one will prey each day and keep hope on maddies safe return.
I firmly beleive that if your going to cast such veiws then atleast be qualified to do so, e.g loose there own child for real in such a way.
surely we should condem those who feel the right to ****** a beautiful little girl/boy as these sick people share our world and not blame the mcanns.Not just put up with fact sickos are allowed to keep re-offending kill the bast ards.
i for one will prey each day and keep hope on maddies safe return.
30 May 2007, 09:25 PM
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dont you remember the days when you could keep your doors open to all??
So, these days it sounds exceptable that society just puts up with sickos.
Nah sorry 100% sympathy from me ffs support them why not ? it can only be a positive thing in such negative circumstances
So, these days it sounds exceptable that society just puts up with sickos.
Nah sorry 100% sympathy from me ffs support them why not ? it can only be a positive thing in such negative circumstances
30 May 2007, 09:38 PM
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For once, I agree.
4. The thing I find most distressing is that they said they had a line of sight to the apartment. If you look at the photo of the resort he must have been looking through a telescope as its miles away. Could he see in to the appartment to see one of the children was choking or had fell etc etc! It takes a few minutes to choke to death not half an hour!
As I've said here from the beginning there is no bar/tapas bar in this complex where you can monitor the comings and going from the apartments they were staying at.
It's a fact they abandoned this child and left her where she could not possibly have been watched.
Now they care- of course they do. Their precious child has been taken and is most likely dead. Their actions from the point she went missing onwards are mainly to assuage their guilt and find the girl second IMO.
What I object to is the totality of the hype surrounding this- for example my car (and every other car and truck) was thoroughly searched returning to the UK from Spain last week. For what exactly? It's total overkill.
As I've said here from the beginning there is no bar/tapas bar in this complex where you can monitor the comings and going from the apartments they were staying at.
It's a fact they abandoned this child and left her where she could not possibly have been watched.
Now they care- of course they do. Their precious child has been taken and is most likely dead. Their actions from the point she went missing onwards are mainly to assuage their guilt and find the girl second IMO.
What I object to is the totality of the hype surrounding this- for example my car (and every other car and truck) was thoroughly searched returning to the UK from Spain last week. For what exactly? It's total overkill.
For once, I agree.
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all this media attention should be like this for every missing kid.
i've still got a sneaking feeling that she will be found not too far away from the area she was taken. if she was snatched, the person would have probably panicked at the chance of being caught with such a media frenzy, so might have had a bit of a negative effect.
wasn't there also some building works nearby? inquisitive 5 year old walks out of an open patio door and gets into difficulties sounds more plausible to me than abduction.
would take an educated guess that more kids have accidents 'exploring' than get abducted, just that accidents don't have that front page attention grabbing factor.
30 May 2007, 09:52 PM
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Know what you mean paul. Why is she any more important than the next child. Everyone involved seems to be doing what they can, including the portugeuse police. Who the hell are we to question how they do their investigation? It's their f&cking country. 
30 May 2007, 10:10 PM
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i will no feel sympathy for the ****wits of parents, i have a lot of sympathy for the poor child who is either scared out of her wits or dead through no fault of her own
30 May 2007, 10:21 PM
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Very well put, Rannoch. I am surprised at the number of people in agreement with this view - thought I was one of very few. Obviously hope all ends well for them, but there must be a lot of Portugese lawmen who feel like giving them a good slap.
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30 May 2007, 10:44 PM
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What started out as a well intended public plea has now turned to something quite different and driven by something else. It's all about money now, money for the newspapers, money for the TV companies, money for the lawyers, money for the consultants, money for the people running their website, money for the telecoms co. providing the text service, publicity opportunity for some celebs and events etc etc etc. No doubt, given time I'm sure the McCanns will sell their story and have books published.
31 May 2007, 08:01 AM
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The Sun Online - Maddie: Symbol for Maddie's mum
I know it's the Sun but presumably their editor thinks this story is important enough to pollute their millions of readers minds with it.
Guess what? A butterfly landed on one of the child abandoners which is apparently a 'symbol of hope'.
If this story wasn't a tragedy it would be funny. To my mind it's that particularly British form of mass hysteria rearing it's imbecilic head yet again.
I know it's the Sun but presumably their editor thinks this story is important enough to pollute their millions of readers minds with it.
Guess what? A butterfly landed on one of the child abandoners which is apparently a 'symbol of hope'.
If this story wasn't a tragedy it would be funny. To my mind it's that particularly British form of mass hysteria rearing it's imbecilic head yet again.
31 May 2007, 08:34 AM
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I don't have children; but I have a niece and nephew - and I KNOW what they can get upto if left alone for 30 seconds, let alone an hour. If they're asleep in aother room and wake, you can hear them, you can check on them and it'll take no more than 15seconds.
I'll comment on their ineptness as parents because I KNOW I wouldn't be guilty of child neglect.