My sympathy is wearing thin...
31 May 2007, 04:07 PM
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I am sure a private learjet at their disposal, tax free cash and a never ending holiday, plus lots of celebrities & the fecking pope fawning over them is such a huge punishment for them... they clearly seem to be enjoying themselves.
All of this is assuming the kid was even in the apartment when they went out.....this does not add up. Time will tell.
Allegedly.
All of this is assuming the kid was even in the apartment when they went out.....this does not add up. Time will tell.
Allegedly.
I'm inclined to agree. I read this today, so a few people are thinking similar
For Madeleine's sake, beware the juggernaut of publicity | the Daily Mail
31 May 2007, 04:11 PM
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I am sure a private learjet at their disposal, tax free cash and a never ending holiday, plus lots of celebrities & the fecking pope fawning over them is such a huge punishment for them... they clearly seem to be enjoying themselves.
All of this is assuming the kid was even in the apartment when they went out.....this does not add up. Time will tell.
Allegedly.
All of this is assuming the kid was even in the apartment when they went out.....this does not add up. Time will tell.
Allegedly.
. i havnt seen them enjoying any of the trappings that are at their disposal.
if someone offered me a lear jet to help find my daughter i would snap up the offer straight away. if you remember, initially they didnt have the support they now have. these offers were mostly from people that are at a loss to help want to contribute something. at the end of the day the parents are going through something none of us will ever have to go through. if they had left their child for 15 minutes, 5 minutes or 5 seconds, or even went to the toilet in the same apartment but another room as the child and something happened they would get criticised.
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31 May 2007, 04:16 PM
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Loads of research out there explaining the links between exposure and propensity to offend, i'm not just making it up. Out of sight, out of mind. In sight, hmmm let's drive past the school and see what's going on. Here's one paper worth reading for starters;
Child abuse and the Internet (Issues paper no.15) - National Child Protection Clearinghouse
Child abuse and the Internet (Issues paper no.15) - National Child Protection Clearinghouse
Indeed from the very paper you quote comes this sentence:
"Research to date has not determined whether child sex offenders are more, or less, likely to offend if they view and/or collect child pornography"
There will always be exceptions where something triggers them to act but my point is that whilst this could now be material distributed via the Internet it could just as equally have been some other medium in the past.
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sara, Iim not so sure about the parents now 
At the end of the day, they did leave her alone and they do seem to be "milking" it, sorry if that seems harsh.
It's Maddie I feel for, not them
At the end of the day, they did leave her alone and they do seem to be "milking" it, sorry if that seems harsh.It's Maddie I feel for, not them
31 May 2007, 04:25 PM
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31 May 2007, 04:37 PM
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stop having a pop at 84, she's right.... the parents are idiots 
31 May 2007, 04:48 PM
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Well If I were in stealing a 4 year old to order I might just take the two toddlers aswell - kind of a bonus !!
Would have thought two babies were worth more than one 4 year old who knows who she is and where she's from !
Very very fishy.
Would have thought two babies were worth more than one 4 year old who knows who she is and where she's from !
Very very fishy.
31 May 2007, 04:49 PM
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i could never have a pop at my mate lesley, if you had met her all you would want to do is hug her
31 May 2007, 04:51 PM
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sara wasn't having a pop 
We are just agreeing to differ. I'm a Mum too, so I can see both sides of the coin. But......I still have my doubts about the parents, sorry
We are just agreeing to differ. I'm a Mum too, so I can see both sides of the coin. But......I still have my doubts about the parents, sorry
31 May 2007, 04:54 PM
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Err.. No.
I don't have children; but I have a niece and nephew - and I KNOW what they can get up to if left alone for 30 seconds, let alone an hour. If they're asleep in another room and wake, you can hear them, you can check on them and it'll take no more than 15seconds.
I'll comment on their ineptness as parents because I KNOW I wouldn't be guilty of child neglect.
I don't have children; but I have a niece and nephew - and I KNOW what they can get up to if left alone for 30 seconds, let alone an hour. If they're asleep in another room and wake, you can hear them, you can check on them and it'll take no more than 15seconds.
I'll comment on their ineptness as parents because I KNOW I wouldn't be guilty of child neglect.
why cant the emphasis be on the sicko who is wrong? and not the mccanns for making the biggest mistake of there lives and will live on in living nightmare.
Most on here are making out that there so perfect ????????? i can remember leaving my doors open 24/7 on the council estate where i grew up but then again we never put up with the sickos there were delt with properly the none pc way.
31 May 2007, 06:21 PM
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Well i think that the mccanns are suffering more than any **** on here could even start to imagine.
why cant the emphasis be on the sicko who is wrong? and not the mccanns for making the biggest mistake of there lives and will live on in living nightmare.
Most on here are making out that there so perfect ????????? i can remember leaving my doors open 24/7 on the council estate where i grew up but then again we never put up with the sickos there were delt with properly the none pc way.
why cant the emphasis be on the sicko who is wrong? and not the mccanns for making the biggest mistake of there lives and will live on in living nightmare.
Most on here are making out that there so perfect ????????? i can remember leaving my doors open 24/7 on the council estate where i grew up but then again we never put up with the sickos there were delt with properly the none pc way.
when my daughter was a baby and asleep in the house with a window open, i may well of been in the garden, which is pretty big. someone could enter an open window and remove her from the house, would i have been wrong to do that?
*waits for the assault*
31 May 2007, 06:22 PM
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Well i think that the mccanns are suffering more than any **** on here could even start to imagine.
why cant the emphasis be on the sicko who is wrong? and not the mccanns for making the biggest mistake of there lives and will live on in living nightmare.
Most on here are making out that there so perfect ????????? i can remember leaving my doors open 24/7 on the council estate where i grew up but then again we never put up with the sickos there were delt with properly the none pc way.
why cant the emphasis be on the sicko who is wrong? and not the mccanns for making the biggest mistake of there lives and will live on in living nightmare.
Most on here are making out that there so perfect ????????? i can remember leaving my doors open 24/7 on the council estate where i grew up but then again we never put up with the sickos there were delt with properly the none pc way.
I'm not sure about the various stories about if she was in the room atall etc but something doesn't add up and as much pain as the parents are going through it's nothing to what the child has probably gone through.
The parents were at fault IMO.
31 May 2007, 06:23 PM
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thats basically what i was saying
when my daughter was a baby and asleep in the house with a window open, i may well of been in the garden, which is pretty big. someone could enter an open window and remove her from the house, would i have been wrong to do that?
*waits for the assault*
when my daughter was a baby and asleep in the house with a window open, i may well of been in the garden, which is pretty big. someone could enter an open window and remove her from the house, would i have been wrong to do that?
*waits for the assault*
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31 May 2007, 06:27 PM
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Yes, she should have been attached to you in a kind of papoose like one of those African women.
http://66.39.36.162/Papoose1.jpg
http://66.39.36.162/Papoose1.jpg
its now a very sad fact that our world as we once knew it is no more
31 May 2007, 08:33 PM
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Where are you Madeleine Mcann - If we could turn back the hand of time how life would be content for many of us. Having the chance to avoid history heartache would be like winning the national lottery. For some folk just being able to utter those absent words "I love you" at the time of losing a loved one - would be a fulfilling obligation to them self and maybe to the person they lost. If you never had the opportunity and those special words were never spoken, then they will be heard in prayer.
Where are you Madeleine? Two people oblivious to the outside world and in so much pain are Gerry and Kate Mcann. We talk not of pain from blood stained knees sustained in prayer, we talk of the agony a parent endures after having their child kidnapped. The good news in most kidnappings, as awful as it may sound is, children are usually returned home unharmed in exchange for money. What do Gerry and Kate pray for? Do they pray Madeleine`s situation be different. I.e. kidnapped and held for ransom so they can bring their baby home?
What we have to remember when in prayer for Maddie`s safe return is, there are other grieving parents who have lost children too. The reason why Madeleine`s disappearance is strongly highlighted in the media is because it is an up to date abduction. Along with Gerry and Kate, our prayers are with those other parents also.
What do Gerry and Kate pray for? Silent in thought, millions of people continue to search and ask "where are you Madeleine Mcann".
No person can ever feel the same pain as the childless couple whose child has been abducted unless having experienced it themselves. However, we can empathize and give as much support as possible, let us help by not forgetting the angelic face of little Madeleine. Whether it is a day, week, month or year, if the whole world comes together in unison, we may bring this innocent little girl home.
If you are the abductor of Madeleine, it is not too late to mend your ways and send her home to mummy and daddy. Put the shoe on the other foot and picture your own mother's face after you had been taken from her warm bosom. Imagine you yourself surrounded by strangers. Hearts were not meant to be broken, and you have broken a million of them. I beg you to have a heart and free Madeleine so she can be back where she belongs - playing with her brother and sister.
At the time of abduction you had your reasons and no doubt believed what you were doing at the time was right; In God's eyes it is wrong. However god is forgiving regardless of the crime. Remember "He who cast the first stone" and all that.
Madeleine`s parents will always be under investigation from the public, where much debate has taken place all over Europe in trying to justify their actions, i.e. leaving their children alone on that fateful night. There is no point at this stage dwelling on their comings and goings, the damage is done where we have a missing child The right thing to do now is to find Madeleine. Maddie`s parents will have to live with this nightmare for the rest of their life. Let us pray that it is with Madeleine safe back in their arms.
Without doubt Gerry and Kate pray for a miracle - could that miracle be that the Lord turn back the hand of time so that dearest daughter may never have to relive this ordeal for the rest of her life.
Where are you Madeleine? Two people oblivious to the outside world and in so much pain are Gerry and Kate Mcann. We talk not of pain from blood stained knees sustained in prayer, we talk of the agony a parent endures after having their child kidnapped. The good news in most kidnappings, as awful as it may sound is, children are usually returned home unharmed in exchange for money. What do Gerry and Kate pray for? Do they pray Madeleine`s situation be different. I.e. kidnapped and held for ransom so they can bring their baby home?
What we have to remember when in prayer for Maddie`s safe return is, there are other grieving parents who have lost children too. The reason why Madeleine`s disappearance is strongly highlighted in the media is because it is an up to date abduction. Along with Gerry and Kate, our prayers are with those other parents also.
What do Gerry and Kate pray for? Silent in thought, millions of people continue to search and ask "where are you Madeleine Mcann".
No person can ever feel the same pain as the childless couple whose child has been abducted unless having experienced it themselves. However, we can empathize and give as much support as possible, let us help by not forgetting the angelic face of little Madeleine. Whether it is a day, week, month or year, if the whole world comes together in unison, we may bring this innocent little girl home.
If you are the abductor of Madeleine, it is not too late to mend your ways and send her home to mummy and daddy. Put the shoe on the other foot and picture your own mother's face after you had been taken from her warm bosom. Imagine you yourself surrounded by strangers. Hearts were not meant to be broken, and you have broken a million of them. I beg you to have a heart and free Madeleine so she can be back where she belongs - playing with her brother and sister.
At the time of abduction you had your reasons and no doubt believed what you were doing at the time was right; In God's eyes it is wrong. However god is forgiving regardless of the crime. Remember "He who cast the first stone" and all that.
Madeleine`s parents will always be under investigation from the public, where much debate has taken place all over Europe in trying to justify their actions, i.e. leaving their children alone on that fateful night. There is no point at this stage dwelling on their comings and goings, the damage is done where we have a missing child The right thing to do now is to find Madeleine. Maddie`s parents will have to live with this nightmare for the rest of their life. Let us pray that it is with Madeleine safe back in their arms.
Without doubt Gerry and Kate pray for a miracle - could that miracle be that the Lord turn back the hand of time so that dearest daughter may never have to relive this ordeal for the rest of her life.
31 May 2007, 08:36 PM
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Where are you Madeleine Mcann - If we could turn back the hand of time how life would be content for many of us. Having the chance to avoid history heartache would be like winning the national lottery. For some folk just being able to utter those absent words "I love you" at the time of losing a loved one - would be a fulfilling obligation to them self and maybe to the person they lost. If you never had the opportunity and those special words were never spoken, then they will be heard in prayer.
Where are you Madeleine? Two people oblivious to the outside world and in so much pain are Gerry and Kate Mcann. We talk not of pain from blood stained knees sustained in prayer, we talk of the agony a parent endures after having their child kidnapped. The good news in most kidnappings, as awful as it may sound is, children are usually returned home unharmed in exchange for money. What do Gerry and Kate pray for? Do they pray Madeleine`s situation be different. I.e. kidnapped and held for ransom so they can bring their baby home?
What we have to remember when in prayer for Maddie`s safe return is, there are other grieving parents who have lost children too. The reason why Madeleine`s disappearance is strongly highlighted in the media is because it is an up to date abduction. Along with Gerry and Kate, our prayers are with those other parents also.
What do Gerry and Kate pray for? Silent in thought, millions of people continue to search and ask "where are you Madeleine Mcann".
No person can ever feel the same pain as the childless couple whose child has been abducted unless having experienced it themselves. However, we can empathize and give as much support as possible, let us help by not forgetting the angelic face of little Madeleine. Whether it is a day, week, month or year, if the whole world comes together in unison, we may bring this innocent little girl home.
If you are the abductor of Madeleine, it is not too late to mend your ways and send her home to mummy and daddy. Put the shoe on the other foot and picture your own mother's face after you had been taken from her warm bosom. Imagine you yourself surrounded by strangers. Hearts were not meant to be broken, and you have broken a million of them. I beg you to have a heart and free Madeleine so she can be back where she belongs - playing with her brother and sister.
At the time of abduction you had your reasons and no doubt believed what you were doing at the time was right; In God's eyes it is wrong. However god is forgiving regardless of the crime. Remember "He who cast the first stone" and all that.
Madeleine`s parents will always be under investigation from the public, where much debate has taken place all over Europe in trying to justify their actions, i.e. leaving their children alone on that fateful night. There is no point at this stage dwelling on their comings and goings, the damage is done where we have a missing child The right thing to do now is to find Madeleine. Maddie`s parents will have to live with this nightmare for the rest of their life. Let us pray that it is with Madeleine safe back in their arms.
Without doubt Gerry and Kate pray for a miracle - could that miracle be that the Lord turn back the hand of time so that dearest daughter may never have to relive this ordeal for the rest of her life.
Where are you Madeleine? Two people oblivious to the outside world and in so much pain are Gerry and Kate Mcann. We talk not of pain from blood stained knees sustained in prayer, we talk of the agony a parent endures after having their child kidnapped. The good news in most kidnappings, as awful as it may sound is, children are usually returned home unharmed in exchange for money. What do Gerry and Kate pray for? Do they pray Madeleine`s situation be different. I.e. kidnapped and held for ransom so they can bring their baby home?
What we have to remember when in prayer for Maddie`s safe return is, there are other grieving parents who have lost children too. The reason why Madeleine`s disappearance is strongly highlighted in the media is because it is an up to date abduction. Along with Gerry and Kate, our prayers are with those other parents also.
What do Gerry and Kate pray for? Silent in thought, millions of people continue to search and ask "where are you Madeleine Mcann".
No person can ever feel the same pain as the childless couple whose child has been abducted unless having experienced it themselves. However, we can empathize and give as much support as possible, let us help by not forgetting the angelic face of little Madeleine. Whether it is a day, week, month or year, if the whole world comes together in unison, we may bring this innocent little girl home.
If you are the abductor of Madeleine, it is not too late to mend your ways and send her home to mummy and daddy. Put the shoe on the other foot and picture your own mother's face after you had been taken from her warm bosom. Imagine you yourself surrounded by strangers. Hearts were not meant to be broken, and you have broken a million of them. I beg you to have a heart and free Madeleine so she can be back where she belongs - playing with her brother and sister.
At the time of abduction you had your reasons and no doubt believed what you were doing at the time was right; In God's eyes it is wrong. However god is forgiving regardless of the crime. Remember "He who cast the first stone" and all that.
Madeleine`s parents will always be under investigation from the public, where much debate has taken place all over Europe in trying to justify their actions, i.e. leaving their children alone on that fateful night. There is no point at this stage dwelling on their comings and goings, the damage is done where we have a missing child The right thing to do now is to find Madeleine. Maddie`s parents will have to live with this nightmare for the rest of their life. Let us pray that it is with Madeleine safe back in their arms.
Without doubt Gerry and Kate pray for a miracle - could that miracle be that the Lord turn back the hand of time so that dearest daughter may never have to relive this ordeal for the rest of her life.
What have you done with Gatty?
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