DCI Gene Hunt

He sure is .....

The Zohan

Cannot mod NSR, reported it

..odd you picked because i did not mod it and for the person who posted it

Reality

Modded myself.

Panic over.

lpski1

do you want me to edit ?

The Zohan

Too late, the damage is done and anyway i infracted you for it

lpski1

my first one.

Abdabz

Scouring the BBC website for news I happened across the latest story of the Madeline tragedy. Apparantly the parents are hopping over to Spain for some more hobnobbing with the rich and important before going to Germany, Holland and Morrocco.
Now, I then clicked onto the Madeline website just out of curiosity and right there is a "donate" link - 2 in fact on the front page, more prominent than anything else. If you click on "donate" you are taken to a paypal page where you can enter your amount and pay...
Does it tell you what you are contributing? Unturning every stone apparantly? Which means what exactly? Funding the European tour? Where's the registered charity number? What will happen to the £300k+ once this nightmare is over?

Maybe it's because I have some jewish blood in me, but who in their right mind hands over their hard earned without any knowledge of how it is to be used?

That website just stinks of a money making scam and is totally inappropriate under the circumstances...

Trout

iTrader: (1)

It is not a charity and does not qualify for charitable status. However our beneficient Treasury is looking into giving them the same tax status as a charity!!

Why - this money is income and it is taxable.

It is not a charitable cause - it is a private cause.

If the Treasury do this then I can only assume that I can do the same for my own business.

DCI Gene Hunt

I note the 'fund' is now +£580,000

Has anyone else READ the blog? they talk about jogging, travelling, kids club, press officers....

PeteBrant

They ar eon extremely shaky ground here. Typical short termist populist government view, that will eventually cause all sorts of problems.

What happens when when my sister-in-law raises enough cash to get over to the states for cancer treatment through donations and sponsered events? Will this be subject to special tax breaks too?

Sonic'

I did read that they were to use the money to fund giving up their jobs, and to jetset around the world to tell their story of Maddie

I personally think it is going to be used to secure the Film Rights with Hollywood, as that will probably be next

Leslie

I understood and agreed with what Rannoch said in his first post, and I was not criticising you Paul, only the people using this thread as an excuse to deride religious beliefs.

Les

Leslie

I don't think it is fair to start insinuating foul play by the parents since there is no evidence whatever as far as anything like that is concerned. I agree the circumstances appear unusual but I think that is is unfair to accuse them of a scam at the moment.

They are however guilty of irresponsible behaviour as far as their children's safety was concerned and that cannot be denied.

At least if they were pulling a fast one then Maddy may well turn up safe and sound and that would the best solution we could hope for.

If she was abducted by a paedophile organisation I cringe to think of what may have happened to her. If that is so, her parents have a heavy responsibility to bear for the foreseeable future.

Les

hoskib

iTrader: (1)

that's a bit crap when you've got to tick a box on a sponsorship form so the charity recieves a tax break, ie more money (forget what this is called, some sort of tax reclaim)

so the government are quite happy to not take 40% of this fund as tax but if you don't put a tick in a box, they take tax away from your donation to the NSPCC?!?

i'm sorry, this sucks. big time.


as for the pic in the sun today of the tapas bar they were in, showing 'they could see the room from their table'. what a load of ****.
pic taken from a probably 6ft camera man looking down onto the bar, great view granted.
now show a pic from sitting on your **** at the table looking up at the room, probably won't see **** all, at best the near 4ft wall of the balcony, which at ground level you wouldn't see the top of an infants head, let alone from down there!
probably wouldn't even see the top of the door over the wall from where they were sitting.

Hoppy

That's utter rubbish. We are all conditioned by our surroundings and experiences, from whatever source. It's been happening for ever.

Why do businesses spend billions promoting their products on TV, magazines, newspaper, the intenet etc etc? It is because exposure to information promotes a reaction. That is as a true about a brand of shampoo as it is about, violence, wierd sex, drugs. Everything.

Most of us can take it all in and come out with a balanced view. Some cannot.

Richard.

Prasius

iTrader: (1)

Not 100% positive, but I believe the tick in the box means that the Charity can claim back the income tax that YOU paid on that donation.



I've always held that the "fund" is as dodgy as hell. I don't understand what the fund is meant to achieve.

Mind you - with the parents flying all over the place, those child care bills for the twins they've now abandoned must be getting a bit steep..

...of course.. thats presuming they've turned over a new leaf and decided to get child care this time - or maybe not and they're just going to check up on them every 5 or 6 days. I'm sure they'll be okay.

paul-s

I cant be bothered to read this whole thread, but I would ask this..

what would you expect the parents to be doing? go home, and forget about the whole thing?

sarasquares

iTrader: (1)

exactly

as i said earlier i would go to the moon and back to look for my daughter if she was missing

if they shunned help to find Maddie and went home they would be hung drawn and quartered, they are never going to please everybody.

this is SN at its ugliest
i feel deeply sorry for the parents and even more so for Maddie

Brendan Hughes

Article in a freebie Portuguese newspaper explains they are using the same publicity officer as used in the Holly and Jessica case - I can't find the article online anywhere, sorry. The whole idea is so the public don't forget after a week and go back to looking at Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan and their latest brushes with the real world. Nothing more sinister than that.

I'm with sara, if I lost my daughter I wouldn't just let it drop after a couple of weeks. Whether or not that's a good idea (agree the girl is the hottest bit of stolen property since the Scream) is for rational minds, and I certainly wouldn't qualify for that.

Brendan Hughes

Clarence Mitchell was director of the Government's Media Monitoring Unit, and was a reporter for 10 years with the BBC.

Fully agree that photos of them in a Lear jet was not a good move.

Hoppy

While I agree that, in the great scheme of things, this whole affair has been blown out of all proportion, I'm with Sara. And if it was your child, so would you be. These poor parents are in a tragic lose-lose position.

I also think it is a sad reflection on the public that, with no news of poor Maddie herself, the media turns on the parents who are doing nothing but try to make some good of this awful mistake. Does anybody think they are enjoying this?

Richard.

psyops

As far as I am concerned the sooner they find the body the sooner they can start allocating resources back to all the other missing people who are equally as important and yet forgotten in the eyes of the press and the fickle flock of sheep that is the general public.

Paul3446

To put some perspective on this, check out this story about a boy who disappeared from Gran Canaria 2 months ago.

Second child missing on holiday island-Global-TimesOnline

Do a search for his name on the bbc website and there is not one story about it.

Two stories that are just as tragic and yet one has never been mentioned while the other one is never out of the news. Obviously because one involves an English family it will get more coverage over here, but it's worth remembering that Maddie isn't the only child missing.

Paul.

sarasquares

iTrader: (1)

the publicity that surrounds this case has been generated by the family themselves and the people looking after them. i am pretty sure that if the parents of all the other missing children had gone down the same road then their plight would have been plastered around the world too.

.....and if we all remember, initially the family were not given the support and help that they needed so the media bandwagon started......

Paul3446

The story is big in Spain and I saw the posters in FuerteVentura last week, I guess it just shows how the media fixates on one story.

At least we all agree on one thing, paedophiles are the absolute scum of the earth.

Patt@firstime

The bit that totally amazes me is that while the parents are moving around different towns/countrys etc they leave there other 2 kids in a kids club!!!!!! WTF!

bugeyeandy

Can't believe the attitudes of some on here - this girl has gone missing and the parents are doing absolutely everything to keep her in everyones minds.
As soon as the media drops the case then she will eventually be forgotten by everyone except the family.
To suggest they are milking it and building up a cushy little fund to live on is not on. Put yourself in their shoes - would locking yourself up in a room and blubbering help find your daughter more than creating an international media frenzy?
I hope this girl does turn up safe and well and i'm extremely impressed with the lengths the parent have gone to during what has been and must still be a living nightmare.

Paul3446

I'm afraid their attitude to parenting sums up today's selfish society, they don't want the kids to interfere with their social life.

Andy-C

I agree, can't seem to put my finger on it too......................

valley commando

iTrader: (1)

it's horrific that this has happened but at the end of the day the kids should have never ever have been left on their own full stop
mine are nearly 11 and 14 and i pannick if i run up the shops for a pack of **** and leave them alone for 5min
maybe i'm just to protective but my kids are still where i know they are