Exactly

 

Only because the 1 vauxhall i have owned(1.8 16v sport) was a fooking death trap it would flash the engine warning light,cut out and steering lock come on) thats with my heavily pregnant wife in the car at the time
Everytime i took it in they couldnt find the problem as the ecu reset itself when switched off and started again
And tbh my first cars where 1.3 ghia escort,1.6 ghia escort,sierra,xr4i,escort van with xr3i engine (shall i go on lol)

 

I gotta say the vxr is a very sexy car though (imho)
i like the bit ont the read up saying its a normal car at low revs but kicks you up the **** when the turbo kicks in (brutally)

 

Sorry, but here's my take on it.

I don't think my old wrx would keep up to be honest though.

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...urprising.html

I test drove the ST2 and whilst it was ok, you sat "on" it like a people carrier and it felt sluggish. Sounded nice at full chat though, very old school quattro sounding.

Drove a VXR in the damp/wet and was appalled by the lack of traction when given some beans. The ride was also almost as bad as my sti..lol!! Nice looking from the outside though.

 

Focus ST:

Kerb Weight: 1317Kg BHP: 222 Power to Weight: 168.56 bhp/tonne

02 WRX:

Kerb Weight: 1385Kg BHP: 215 (218PS) Power To Weight: 155.23 bhp/tonne

Focus ST has had some excellent reviews and it's handling is supposed to be very good indeed (The Stig rated it very highly)
I'm not a Focus ST owner, or devotee, but I think to dismiss it, or any of the current crop of "hot hatches" out of hand would be a mistake. I think most of them would give a current WRX a run for it's money, let alone a 2002 one.
Throw in some bad weather though and it's a different story.

I'll still be buying an Sti though!!

 

original post is talking about a 93/95 wrx so 240/260bhp and alot lighter so would be quicker than the st not bad for a twelve year old standard wrx.....

 

There is a bit of a price difference in the posters choice
Why spend over ten g's when you are considering a car for a few g's?
Personally i would go for the newer car than a well worn thrashed Subaru which face it has had its day.
A standard 12 year old wrx is nothing these days apart from a money pit.
Nik.

 

is a bit of a pointless thread if you have 17k to spend

everybody knows the subaru died after the classic shape......

 

Few words, lots said

 

I was still on about that post!

 

As i posted a while back. I've a standard 2003 wrx. I got beat by a astra vxr. These things can shift. But I realise a standard wrx isn't that fast anyway.

 

yeh i know m8 agree nothing between them really weight and power...

just had a look at your wagon m8 very nice i think you'll be alot over 250/260bhp if you running it at 1.4bar

makes a change from people over estimating there bhp

 

mac12 .the difference in price,i think i would lose less on a new focus £20300 (st3),i get £3000 ford discount.
so should get about £15000 worse way in a year.
if i get a £17000 sti,how much would i get in a year,they seem hard to sell.so if i get a cheapy it depreciation should be less.
it will be a second car.

 

Quite right mate.

 

how do they compare the wrx is faster and about 14k/17k cheaper

but the ford is obviously newer and therefore would impress the new girlfriend's parent's more than a raw 1995 wrx....

 

yeh it did grow up like most of us it got heavier,slower and a receeding hairline....

 

For "heavier" read "better built and safer". 148% stiffer chassis.

 

bug eye,blob eye,hawk eye,japs eye who cares its a subaru so in my eyes its all good but anyone who knocks the classic impreza with the argument its now old really is deluded....

 

Indeed. Subaru. It's all good. (Well apart from the 2008 model pics ).

 

Thats a shame - you are in the wrong place LOL
As you are posting on SCOOBYNET
who have just organised the SCOOBY SHOOT OUT..
...and whats that I see at the top of the page an advert for SCOOBYCLINIC

Have to agree - with many on here the classic was the car. Even now as I am considering my next one I will only consider a classic. The newer ones are not even on my radar.

Just looked at you car Ben - Avery nice understated classic you have there - spot on

 

Cheers matey......the wagon has gone now though Went about a year ago and I got the Skoda. A 2004/5 Sti beckons though, so won't be long before I'm back under the wings of Scoob ownership.

As they say in Geordie land "Ah canneh wait".

One thing about classic Scoobs........even with modest power and a four wheel drive transmission system to sap it away.......they do make very good use of the "power at the wheels" that is available to them.

 

Cheers Steve.

I can't believe the mentality of some people on this site though. I love my Impreza for the way it makes me feel when I drive it, the looks and the noise it makes. It's not massively quick but suits my needs on and off the track. I can't stand the term 'scooby' however - maybe I am in the wrong place!!

A standard WRX is by no means ahead of the game compared to todays hot hatches and anyone that thinks otherwise is deluded.

Ben

 

02 wrx standard and the focus st standard dont think there would anything noticeble between them.
1995 wrx 260bhp standard and standard focus st, wrx would be slightly quicker fact....
well done ford your catching up after 12 years
well nearly

 

I took the focus out this march for a test drive before the scooby. The focus was very nice, comfy, felt quick and was very responsive however I then took out what is my 2.5 wrx and wow..... the scooby won hands down.
I had some chav pull next to me at some lights the other day revving the ***** of his engine wanting a race,...... I set off normally he went full mashings and could smell the clutch..... The lil boy part of me put his foot down and kicked his asse. Scooby is by far better.

 

Was the chav in a focus ST ?

 

'A standard 12 year old wrx is nothing these days apart from a money pit'

Rubbish, i 've a 93 wrx and the only thing that has needed replacing in 4 years is the cambelt.
I've just general running/servicing costs

 

agree m8 my94 although ive only had it for 18months all that its needed in that time was a rocker cover gasket changing.
all cars are money pits because we are always modding them not because they are old and always breaking down, my94 has been the most reliable car ive owned....(touch wood)

 

If there was wood to touch it would be a Jaguar, not a Scoob.

 

260 bhp wrx standard. surely not uk spec???

 

JDM, power depending on type of Arab juice used.