Porsche Caymen S r SLOW!!
12 June 2007 | 09:08 AM
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Are there any of those things still on the road?.
Do they get classic insurance?.
Good in their day but I mean, move on, or are you on your ****?.
12 June 2007 | 09:39 AM
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"I dot understand the people that come on a Scooby forum and just make posts about how the Scooby is the fastest car??"
12 June 2007 | 10:19 AM
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What your all missing is that if you increase the weight, you increase the grip, the standard equation for 'movement' resistance is mu (coefficient of friction) times mass (weight times gravity) so a 1.4 tonne Elise would have near enough double the grip of a 0.7 tonne Elise, I say near enough as the tyre responce isn't all linear so mu will change slightly.
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Ok, one last time.
I was talking in terms of lateral grip, and the way I see it, if a lighter car can overcome it's lack of rolling resistance (compared to a heavier car) and generate more forward motion or traction at a higher g force or at a higher corner speed, it is generating more grip, in absolute terms or whatever. If I am wrong and someone could properly correct me, please do!
I've already stated the traction advantage of the Scoob, perhaps I should have made that more clear.
12 June 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Maybe its in response to all those that post 'i've just beaten a.......'
Who gives a ****.
The only way anyone will know who's car is faster than who's is to have a proper race on a track.
Nik.
Who gives a ****.
The only way anyone will know who's car is faster than who's is to have a proper race on a track.
Nik.
12 June 2007 | 02:35 PM
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- my subaru is much quicker!
12 June 2007 | 02:49 PM
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If people dont, then why reply to the thread.. its just trolling
12 June 2007 | 04:10 PM
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Just too throw a different light on this thread, here is the Handling tracktest course results from a German car TV Show
Link Motorvision 179 im DSF um 20:30 Uhr | Motorvision
Pos 1: Scooby 2.5l, lotus exige 240R is second and the Cayman is 22nd, even the 2l Sti is Quicker being 17th followed by the Lotus Elise.
Tracktestliste:
Position: Fahrzeug: Zeit:
1. Subaru Impreza WRX Sti - 18,59
2. Lotus Exige 240R - 18,76
3. Lotus Exige - 18,89
4. Mitsubishi Evo VII - 18,92
5. BMW M3 CSL - 18,94
6. Mitsubishi Evo IX - 19,22
7. Wiesman MF3 SMG - 19,28
8. Mitsubishi Evo VI - 19,35
9. Audi TT Quattro Sport - 19,42
10. Porsche 911 GT3 Bj. 2003 - 19,49
11. Audi RS4 - 19,58
12. BMW Z4 3.0i - 19,6
13. Porsche 911 GT3 - 19,61
14. Mitsubishi Evo VIII - 19,63
16. Audi TT Quattro 225 PS - 19,65
17. Subaru Impreza WRX Sti - 19,65
18. Lotus Elise 111S - 19,69
19. Lotus Elise 111R - 19,7
20. Opel Speedster Turbo - 19,71
21. Porsche 911 Carrera - 19,72
22. Porsche Cayman S - 19,73
23. BMW M3 - 19,79
24. Porsche Boxster S - 19,8
25. BMW M6 - 19,81
26. Nissan 350Z - 19,82
27. Mazda RX8 - 19,84
28. BMW M5 - 19,85
29. Audi S4 V8 - 19,86
30. Yes Roadster -19,88
31. BMW Z3 3.0 - 19,92
32. Smart Brabus Forfun Roadster 19,93
33. BMW 330Cd - 19,99
34. Mercedes SLK 55 AMG - 20,03
35. Nissan 350Z Roadster - 20,05
36. Ford Focus RS - 20,06
37. Opel Speedster - 20,07
38. Peugeot 206 RC - 20,07
39. VW Golf R32 - 20,11
40. Audi TT 3.2 V6 - 20,13
41. Seat Leon Cupra R - 20,14
42. Audi S3 2002 - 20,16
43. BMW 130i - 20,2
44. Citroen Saxo Cup-Version - 20,24
45. Audi S3 - 20,24
46. Ford Focus ST 220 PS (2006) - 20,25
47. Jaguar S-Type R - 20,26
48. Mercedes SLK 350 - 20,27
49. Mini Cooper S Works - 20,28
50. Opel Astra OPC - 20,28
51. VW Golf GTI (2006) - 20,29
52. Corvette C6 - 20,3
53. Ford Fieste ST - 20,31
54. Honda Civic Type-R - 20,31
55. Mercedes C320 Sportcoupé - 20,31
56. Seat Leon Cupra R 225 PS - 20,32
57. Opel Astra GTC Turbo - 20,33
58. MG TF 160 - 20,33
59. Volvo S60 R - 20,33
60. BMW M5 - 20,34
61. Ford Focus ST 170 - 20,34
62. Ford Mondeo ST 220 - 20,34
63. Honda NSX - 20,35
64. Renault Clio 2.0 16V - 20,39
65. Toyota MR2 - 20,45
66. Alfa Romeo 156 GTA - 20,47
67. Honda S2000 - 20,47
68. Peugeot 206 S16 - 20,48
69. Mazda MX5 - 20,49
70. Subaru Impreza GT - 20,49
71. Chrysler Crossfire SRT6 (Winterr.) - 20,5
72. Mercedes SL 55 AMG (2005) - 20,52
73. Opel Astra OPC - 20,55
74. Audi S6 Avant Automatik - 20,55
75. Alfa Romeo GTV 3.0 V6 - 20,56
76. Mini Cooper S - 20,59
77. Chevrolet Corvette C5 - 20,59
78. MG ZT - 20,6
79. VW Lupo GTI - 20,63
80. Toyota Celica 1.8 TS - 20,65
81. Citroen Saxo VTS 16V - 20,67
82. VW Golf V6 4Motion - 20,68
83. Saab 9-3 2.0t Aero - 20,69
84. BMW 330i Automatik - 20,71
85. Mercedes E55 T AMG (2004) - 20,75
86. Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDI - 20,76
87. Audi A3 2.0 TDI - 20,79
88. Honda Accord Type R - 20,79
89. Skoda Octavia RS - 20,8
90. Mercedes E55 T AMG (2001) - 20,83
91. Hyundai Coupé FX V6 - 20,9
92. Skoda Fabia RS - 20,91
93. Smart Roadster Coupé - 20,91
94. Peugeot 406 Coupé 2.2 - 20,96
95. Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS - 21
96. Renault Megane Die - 21,03
97. MG ZR -21,04
98. Volvo V70 T5 Automatik - 21,05
99. BMW 323Ci - 21,05
100. Opel Vectra GTS - 21,09
101. VW Golf TDI 150 PS - 21,1
102. Seat Leon 1.8 T - 21,11
103. Mercedes CL 55 AMG - 21,13
104. Mercedes C 320 Automatik - 21,23
105. BMW X5 4.6iS - 21,26
106. Fiat Stilo Abarth 2.4 20V - 21,28
107. VW Golf V5 4Motion - 21,28
108. Mercedes CL 600 - 21,3
109. Toyota Corolla TS - 21,37
110. Saab 9-5 Aero Kombi - 21,48
111. Renault Clio 1.6 16V - 21,55
112. Mercedes A 210 - 22,05
113. Fiat Bravo HGT - 22,22
114. Daihatsu YRV GTI - 22,44
115. Smart Fortwo Cabrio Brabus - 22,99
Position: Fahrzeug: Zeit:
1. Subaru Impreza WRX Sti - 18,59
2. Lotus Exige 240R - 18,76
3. Lotus Exige - 18,89
4. Mitsubishi Evo VII - 18,92
5. BMW M3 CSL - 18,94
6. Mitsubishi Evo IX - 19,22
7. Wiesman MF3 SMG - 19,28
8. Mitsubishi Evo VI - 19,35
9. Audi TT Quattro Sport - 19,42
10. Porsche 911 GT3 Bj. 2003 - 19,49
11. Audi RS4 - 19,58
12. BMW Z4 3.0i - 19,6
13. Porsche 911 GT3 - 19,61
14. Mitsubishi Evo VIII - 19,63
16. Audi TT Quattro 225 PS - 19,65
17. Subaru Impreza WRX Sti - 19,65
18. Lotus Elise 111S - 19,69
19. Lotus Elise 111R - 19,7
20. Opel Speedster Turbo - 19,71
21. Porsche 911 Carrera - 19,72
22. Porsche Cayman S - 19,73
23. BMW M3 - 19,79
24. Porsche Boxster S - 19,8
25. BMW M6 - 19,81
26. Nissan 350Z - 19,82
27. Mazda RX8 - 19,84
28. BMW M5 - 19,85
29. Audi S4 V8 - 19,86
30. Yes Roadster -19,88
31. BMW Z3 3.0 - 19,92
32. Smart Brabus Forfun Roadster 19,93
33. BMW 330Cd - 19,99
34. Mercedes SLK 55 AMG - 20,03
35. Nissan 350Z Roadster - 20,05
36. Ford Focus RS - 20,06
37. Opel Speedster - 20,07
38. Peugeot 206 RC - 20,07
39. VW Golf R32 - 20,11
40. Audi TT 3.2 V6 - 20,13
41. Seat Leon Cupra R - 20,14
42. Audi S3 2002 - 20,16
43. BMW 130i - 20,2
44. Citroen Saxo Cup-Version - 20,24
45. Audi S3 - 20,24
46. Ford Focus ST 220 PS (2006) - 20,25
47. Jaguar S-Type R - 20,26
48. Mercedes SLK 350 - 20,27
49. Mini Cooper S Works - 20,28
50. Opel Astra OPC - 20,28
51. VW Golf GTI (2006) - 20,29
52. Corvette C6 - 20,3
53. Ford Fieste ST - 20,31
54. Honda Civic Type-R - 20,31
55. Mercedes C320 Sportcoupé - 20,31
56. Seat Leon Cupra R 225 PS - 20,32
57. Opel Astra GTC Turbo - 20,33
58. MG TF 160 - 20,33
59. Volvo S60 R - 20,33
60. BMW M5 - 20,34
61. Ford Focus ST 170 - 20,34
62. Ford Mondeo ST 220 - 20,34
63. Honda NSX - 20,35
64. Renault Clio 2.0 16V - 20,39
65. Toyota MR2 - 20,45
66. Alfa Romeo 156 GTA - 20,47
67. Honda S2000 - 20,47
68. Peugeot 206 S16 - 20,48
69. Mazda MX5 - 20,49
70. Subaru Impreza GT - 20,49
71. Chrysler Crossfire SRT6 (Winterr.) - 20,5
72. Mercedes SL 55 AMG (2005) - 20,52
73. Opel Astra OPC - 20,55
74. Audi S6 Avant Automatik - 20,55
75. Alfa Romeo GTV 3.0 V6 - 20,56
76. Mini Cooper S - 20,59
77. Chevrolet Corvette C5 - 20,59
78. MG ZT - 20,6
79. VW Lupo GTI - 20,63
80. Toyota Celica 1.8 TS - 20,65
81. Citroen Saxo VTS 16V - 20,67
82. VW Golf V6 4Motion - 20,68
83. Saab 9-3 2.0t Aero - 20,69
84. BMW 330i Automatik - 20,71
85. Mercedes E55 T AMG (2004) - 20,75
86. Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDI - 20,76
87. Audi A3 2.0 TDI - 20,79
88. Honda Accord Type R - 20,79
89. Skoda Octavia RS - 20,8
90. Mercedes E55 T AMG (2001) - 20,83
91. Hyundai Coupé FX V6 - 20,9
92. Skoda Fabia RS - 20,91
93. Smart Roadster Coupé - 20,91
94. Peugeot 406 Coupé 2.2 - 20,96
95. Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS - 21
96. Renault Megane Die - 21,03
97. MG ZR -21,04
98. Volvo V70 T5 Automatik - 21,05
99. BMW 323Ci - 21,05
100. Opel Vectra GTS - 21,09
101. VW Golf TDI 150 PS - 21,1
102. Seat Leon 1.8 T - 21,11
103. Mercedes CL 55 AMG - 21,13
104. Mercedes C 320 Automatik - 21,23
105. BMW X5 4.6iS - 21,26
106. Fiat Stilo Abarth 2.4 20V - 21,28
107. VW Golf V5 4Motion - 21,28
108. Mercedes CL 600 - 21,3
109. Toyota Corolla TS - 21,37
110. Saab 9-5 Aero Kombi - 21,48
111. Renault Clio 1.6 16V - 21,55
112. Mercedes A 210 - 22,05
113. Fiat Bravo HGT - 22,22
114. Daihatsu YRV GTI - 22,44
115. Smart Fortwo Cabrio Brabus - 22,99
Pos 1: Scooby 2.5l, lotus exige 240R is second and the Cayman is 22nd, even the 2l Sti is Quicker being 17th followed by the Lotus Elise.
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12 June 2007 | 04:24 PM
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12 June 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Just too throw a different light on this tread, here is the Handling tracktest course results from a German car TV Show
Link Motorvision 179 im DSF um 20:30 Uhr | Motorvision
Pos 1: Scooby 2.5l, lotus exige 240R is second and the Cayman is 22nd, even the 2l Sti is Quicker being 17th followed by the Louts Elise.
Link Motorvision 179 im DSF um 20:30 Uhr | Motorvision
Pos 1: Scooby 2.5l, lotus exige 240R is second and the Cayman is 22nd, even the 2l Sti is Quicker being 17th followed by the Louts Elise.
12 June 2007 | 04:31 PM
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The new Porsche 911 4S, it was a 10th of a Sec faster last week, but its not on the result list at this minute.
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12 June 2007 | 07:01 PM
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12 June 2007 | 09:22 PM
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My point was that a true race can only be carried out on a track as sooner or later someones bottle will go on the public roads.
eg. I would never take my car up to its maximum speed on a public road but wouldn't have second thoughts on a track. Point being, someones bottle will eventually go on a public road 'race' as the consequences of something going wrong are far greater.
Nik.
eg. I would never take my car up to its maximum speed on a public road but wouldn't have second thoughts on a track. Point being, someones bottle will eventually go on a public road 'race' as the consequences of something going wrong are far greater.
Nik.
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