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Old 27 June 2007, 10:46 AM
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The media have been like this for years now - you only have to look at the sensationalism of Sky News - every bit of news comes up in big huge red letters 'BREAKING NEWS'

I blame the Southern Luvvies who run ITN/SKY/BBC Etc.

Yorkshire folk are made of sterner stuff - They'll brush themselves down, get on with it and it will be forgotton about next week
Old 27 June 2007, 10:58 AM
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Typical selfish Yorkshire - even the weathers at it! Driving up everyone elses house and car insurance... And all the tv companies can do is sensationalise the story by shipping as many cameras as possible to the godforsaken county and showing men in canoes
Old 27 June 2007, 11:02 AM
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I'm trying hard to think of when the news reported something good that brought a smile to my face...
Old 27 June 2007, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Aberfan I take? Different times now though isn't it. Internet, 24 hour news channels. you get to hear a lot more about things that go on. However in the case of Aberfan it is a disaster that is known worldwide and is an incident that is still told in schools.

Yes you are right, I am from Aberfan. I agree, we do get to see and hear a lot more things that go on around our country and the world.
Old 27 June 2007, 11:31 AM
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1) Media do tend to over react.

2) Regardless, the poster is insensitive and unsympathetic and clearly hasn't had his home wrecked.

Having been stranded in and witnessed the 'devastation' (is that term ok to use Prickius....or do you see it as a bit of an overstatement) that torrents of water did to most people's houses, cars, the road, cattle etc) during this flood.

We were overjoyed to escape with our life... as you can see from the drops to the side of the road, being swept down the mountain was a 'real possibility'.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Motorists rescued from landslide
BBC NEWS | Scotland | Crews work on landslides debris

I have nothing but sympathy for those currently affected in Yorkshire

Some people should think before they post

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Old 27 June 2007, 11:51 AM
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Its all news and they will make the most of it of course!

I bet however that the original poster might find it a bit inconvenient to have his car submerged, and a couple of feet of sewage laden water running through his house, and even worse if he got his foot stuck in a drain cover while he was trying to help someone out which eventually caused his death!

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Old 27 June 2007, 11:59 AM
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Yep.... could of swore I saw Noah loading people onto his ark to escape the worlds greatest flood....and a few whales that had swam into the ocean deep waters that had devastated the UK. I honestly thought the world was about to end.....

To me "devastation" is what occured after the Tsunami or when USA dropped the A-bomb. This is simply a "pain in the ****" scenario......

Whilst I agree that it is not nice, and I am certain it is quite scary, devastation is too strong a word for it and on that account I do think the papers overhype the story to sell more copy.

I live in Holland and 30% of Holland is "reclaimed" land.... yet we never seem to suffer floods..... crap preparation from government and water authorioties I am afraid.

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Old 27 June 2007, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
What a load of bull! I wasn't making any *political* point from my post. Just saying that neither of us could remember things being any different. Obviously there are cold winters as well as wet winters and warm (ish) winters. The same for summer. The same for autumn and spring. Funnily enough the climate keeps changing day by day .....

Actually, the *old folk* around your way remind me of the Monty Python sketch ... 'eeee, but we 'ad it real baad. We lived in cardboard box in middle of M1 ...'

Dave
Well funny that as there are plenty of pictures of winters being just like that in the 50s and 60s and they haven't been in recent times, but don't let the facts stand in the way of your 'Oh so clear' memory. Maybe the oild folk round my way are all closet expert photoshoppers too eh?

As for my point about your political agenda your posts are often of the 'Everything is the governemnt's fault' style. As such you want climate change to not exist so you can blame New Labour for something else. Well like it or not the climate IS changing, fact, and if you wnat to carry on denying it then that's up to you. The question that we probably can never answer with any certaintly is whether we are the cause or not!!
Old 27 June 2007, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
I'm trying hard to think of when the news reported something good that brought a smile to my face...
Try this :

Blair to stand down as British PM - CNN.com
Old 27 June 2007, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Clearly Big Brother is more pressing news for people like you. Here you go fill your boots

The Sun Newspaper online - the best for news, sport and showbiz
LOL

Chill dude

The media is all about sensationalism these days.

I'm not disputing the fact that there have been floods, but there appears to be a perspective issue here.

Google UK floods. Its not the first time its happened, and it wont be the last. Of course its more relevant to the UK, but it should be no less important than 200 deaths elsewhere, for example.

And it most certainly isn't worthy of being called "The Great Flood"

There have been worse natural disasters in the UK, of that there is no doubt.
Old 27 June 2007, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
LOL

Chill dude

The media is all about sensationalism these days.
The sad thing is that it is largely the British media, the quality of reporting has just disappeared. Most other countries are no where near the sensationalist rubbish produced over here.
Old 27 June 2007, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
1) Media do tend to over react.

2) Regardless, the poster is insensitive and unsympathetic and clearly hasn't had his home wrecked.

Having been stranded in and witnessed the 'devastation' (is that term ok to use Prickius....or do you see it as a bit of an overstatement) that torrents of water did to most people's houses, cars, the road, cattle etc) during this flood.

We were overjoyed to escape with our life... as you can see from the drops to the side of the road, being swept down the mountain was a 'real possibility'.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Motorists rescued from landslide
BBC NEWS | Scotland | Crews work on landslides debris

I have nothing but sympathy for those currently affected in Yorkshire

Some people should think before they post
Mate,

its not the event that the OP is complaining about, its the media treatment of it.

I don't recall the events to which you refer having been national news for days on end?

I don't recall every news agency having crews on site giving live feeds every news broadcast?
Old 27 June 2007, 12:54 PM
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I don't recall the events to which you refer having been national news for days on end?
Exactly

It happened on the 18th August 2004 (2 days after Boscastle)

Did it make national headlines 24/7? No...

Perhaps because it wasn't England?

Probably.

To the orignal poster. You're sick of it? Try living in Wales, Ireland or Scotland (and maybe Cornwall ) and see what it feels like to have your own "disasters" largely ignored.
Get my (other) point ?

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Old 27 June 2007, 12:57 PM
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ooh.. I haven't posted something thats put me in line for this much abuse in ages..

As for Great Fire of London question - less than 10 people are known to have died, but given the cramped conditions and level of poverty that exsisted in London at that time it is probable that many, many, more were killed. Although prehaps I should have used The Great Plague as an example instead - where over 7000 people died in one week in London alone in 1665.

However, the Great Fire of London had a massive effect on the economy of England at the time; so I grant you that prehaps not an humanitarian disaster, it was an economic one. I doubt very much this is.
Old 27 June 2007, 01:13 PM
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Look on the bright side though, at least we dont have to put up with "we know she's in a ditch somewhere, but her parents are media ****** so we're gonna shovel as much **** as they can dish out direct into your home from now until the end of time" anymore.
astraboy.
Old 27 June 2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
Exactly

It happened on the 18th August 2004 (2 days after Boscastle)



Get my (other) point ?
I'm with you
Old 27 June 2007, 01:21 PM
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Nanny state run riot.

Its all me me me me me.

Wannabe generation of kids.

Bring back national service I say
Old 27 June 2007, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by astraboy
Look on the bright side though, at least we dont have to put up with "we know she's in a ditch somewhere, but her parents are media ****** so we're gonna shovel as much **** as they can dish out direct into your home from now until the end of time" anymore.
astraboy.

i can can almost count the infractions from here
Old 27 June 2007, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by astraboy
Look on the bright side though, at least we dont have to put up with "we know she's in a ditch somewhere, but her parents are media ****** so we're gonna shovel as much **** as they can dish out direct into your home from now until the end of time" anymore.
astraboy.
How true!! I think we are aligned on this media thing
Old 27 June 2007, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Prasius
ooh.. I haven't posted something thats put me in line for this much abuse in ages..

As for Great Fire of London question - less than 10 people are known to have died, but given the cramped conditions and level of poverty that exsisted in London at that time it is probable that many, many, more were killed. Although prehaps I should have used The Great Plague as an example instead - where over 7000 people died in one week in London alone in 1665.

However, the Great Fire of London had a massive effect on the economy of England at the time; so I grant you that prehaps not an humanitarian disaster, it was an economic one. I doubt very much this is.
As a resident of "Nelson's County" too, I am sure you (or your parents) will remember the Great Yarmouth floods of 1953 when 10 people died. Probably made the front of the EDP then, but doubt the nationals were bothered.

I think the posts on snow are more relevant though. As others have said no significant snow for a long time, but the media are so worried of a repeat of 1987 when they underestimated the windy weather, any deviation now is immediately hyped to ensure that nobody is unaware or worse, going to sue!!
Old 27 June 2007, 02:17 PM
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Every day 30,000 children die of starvation and diseases we know how to prevent – 210,000 dead (counting only the children) every week.
That's a disaster.

It happens every week.

Three people dying is a tragedy.

I feel sorry for the people who are flooded out - it must be terrible for them. But the insurance will pay and a year from now everything will be back to normal.

I definitely agree that the media has it's priorities all wrong.....
Old 27 June 2007, 08:55 PM
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Read the first page, cant be arsed to read more but will ask the question:

If 3 people died from a population of 60 million plus in one day because of 'national flooding' and 4 people died falling off donkeys, should we kill all donkeys?
Old 27 June 2007, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman D. Landing
Read the first page, cant be arsed to read more but will ask the question:

If 3 people died from a population of 60 million plus in one day because of 'national flooding' and 4 people died falling off donkeys, should we kill all donkeys?
If the donkeys rampaged meaning a thousand or so had to leave their homes because the donkeys wrecked them or they could have potentially killed some more people. If the donkeys were then free to roam the major cities of the north causing millions of pounds of damage, disrupting the livelihoods of several hundred thousands as well as causing massive loss of earnings.... then yes those Donkeys may well have to be dealt with.
Old 27 June 2007, 11:40 PM
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Well said STi
Old 27 June 2007, 11:57 PM
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Don't forget Speed kills. So with all those cars off the road for a week, the M1 shut, lots of traffic slowing down to negotiate the floods, there may well have been sveral lives saved who would otherwise have died in traffic related accidents. This goes some way to balancing the 4-6 sadly lost.
Old 28 June 2007, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Prasius
However, the Great Fire of London had a massive effect on the economy of England at the time; so I grant you that prehaps not an humanitarian disaster, it was an economic one. I doubt very much this is.
It will have an effect on the economy..

Shares in the major insurance companies are dropping..
Transportation throughout a good swathe of the country is buggered..
Businesses are losing money and some will probably go out of business..
Thousands of people are unable to work.. many are not getting paid..

The cost of insurance claims for example...
The Association of British Insurers says the overall cost of the floods will run into hundreds of millions.
They're going to recoup those losses somehow.. basically out of all our pockets.

And as it looks it might well all happen again this coming weekend with the Met Office predicting similar amounts of rainfall on already saturated land..
Met Office: Yorkshire & Humber: severe weather warnings

Whilst it might not be a disaster in the biblical sense, I'm pretty certain to those directly affected it is pretty disastrous to them..

I think the reason for the "Great Flood" moniker being bandied around is pretty much down to actually how widespread the damage is.. unlike localised events such as Boscastle etc the area affected by this is huge..spanning several counties.
Old 28 June 2007, 12:26 AM
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Sod 'em....when all this rain was comming down I was in a sodding tent!

Did I get wet? No!

However the noise from feejits with cruddy tents retreating into their cars and slamming car doors at all hours was annoying,...especially when they decided to return to their tents at 4:00-5:00 am slamming doors like they were off a 1969 SIIA Land Rover. FFS pitch the tent right and it won't leak.


OK, Sheffield flooded. Makes a change from the last area that was flooded under 5ft+ of water several years ago (can't be arsed to google it ) Same amount of flooding, just in a different area.
Old 28 June 2007, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jjones
i can can almost count the infractions from here
*cue tumbleweed*
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Old 28 June 2007, 08:37 AM
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OK, Sheffield flooded. Makes a change from the last area that was flooded under 5ft+ of water several years ago (can't be arsed to google it ) Same amount of flooding, just in a different area.
That will be Carlisle


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