RRE

Is'nt there an official way to ban people from the site?

drb5

iTrader: (4)

Nice one. Might be worth a try if nothing happens soon....

Markus

As said, contact the webmaster and alert them to this serious situation. They should investigate and they may decide to ban him. Users cannot ban users, apart from a temporary ban via the infraction system. A permanent ban is the decision of the Admin/Webmaster, and they will, quite obviously need to look into the situation to find out where the truth is, and then work out what to do.

RRE

Anybody know who is the official admin for the General forum?

RRE

I have written the official SN adress now, lets see if that get things moving.

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

I was hoping to not have to resort to posting on this ridiculous witch hunt but now that my integrity has been so publicly questioned this will be my one and only response.

Here are the facts.

Firstly I have been a member of this site since 2000 and have bought and sold many things via this website.

These are the only two things that I have had problems with in my 7 years on this site.

Now the facts for both of these issues and perhaps the judgemental amongst you wont be so quick to condemn me:

RRE and his gauges.

He is making out that I have taken cash off him an then not sent him the gauges. That is simply not true.

Admittedly there was an initial delay in him recieving the guages but I live 1/2 mile away from where all of the Nationl news crews were filming on during the floods and shortly after the sale of the gauages was agreed my house was under four feet of water where it remained for nearly 2 months.

I still havent moved back in fully due to building work.

That aside RRE did eventually recieve the gauges and when he did he was unable to fit them for whatever reason and he asked for a refund. This I agreed but I said i would only give the refund via the original payment method of paypal once I had recieved the gauges back.

This is where the problems arise as when i got the gauges back they were damaged. For some reason RRE said it was too complicated a process for him to claim so I agreed to claim. This is still ongoing. The latest status of the claim is that the claim has been approved and I am awaiting the cheque.

This has been explained to RRE on several occasions and for some reason its not sinking in.

I have said on several occasions that I will gladly return all of his money when I recieve the cheque and it has cleared in my bank. Could someone please tell me what is so unreasonalble about that??

Secondly we come to drb5

I contacted him about a roll cage that he was selling. we agreed a price of £200. He later pm'd me asking if i'd be interested in a swap for some tubular headers that i was selling at the time. This was the perfect situation.
I agreed albeit reluctantly to drive upto Glasgow to meet him.
Once I arrived I inspected the roll cage and more importanly he inspected the headers. We were both happy and a swap was agreed. I then drove back to doncaster the same evening. I got a pm from drb5 6 weeks later (thats right six weeks) saying that the third party he had sold the headers onto returned them to him because they were cracked. drb5 then said he wanted a £200 refund. I was perfectly entitled both morally and legally to tell him to get lost (sold as seen buyer beware and all that). I didnt do that and agreed to a refund subject to me recieving the headers back. I agreed to pay him what was in my paypal account (£145) which he recieved that day and i would pay the rest on reciept of the headers. The headers arrived a couple of weeks later and I was very surprised to find that there was nothing wrong with them. So much so that they are now on my 500bhp 2.5L rotated GT30R equipped classic.

Had his pm's been less rude, more polite and less blunt I'd have been inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt but quite frankly i think he's tried to take the **** from day one. Had he been a genuine seller he'd have agreed to meet me halfway for the exchange. Considering the fact I could have told him to get lost without giving him any money at all let alone £145 and telling him to keep the headers I think I've been more than fair. The fuel alone cost me alot more than the £55 he's claiming not to mention that we had to cut the roll cage in half to get it into my GF's car and the cost to weld it back together again.


As said before I've been a member on here for 7 years and am more than a little pissed off that my integrity has been called into question. I have met many people on here and most of those would vouch how genuine I am. Steven (P20SPD) your comments surprise me as I have borrowed parts from you and promptly returned them. I have even been to your home numerous times and attended a couple of your pre ten of the best BBq's

P1Mark lent me his VF28 turbo for a year which I'm sure he'll tell you was returned to him in exactly the same condition as I recieved it in.

To be honest I feel like telling the pair of you (RRE and drb5) to clear off and let you sue me.

RRE I've not once said you're not getting a refund what I have said is you'll get it when the delivery company reimburses me for my loss that is still the case please let that sink in for what must be the 7th or 8th time!!!.

I've done nothing wrong here and am the victim of two exagerating, needlessly worrying, drama queen's witch hunt. Hopefully that should put the record straight.


Daz

RRE

Glad that this post actually got you out of the bush you have been hiding under. But get your facts right:

The reason I originally wrote this post back in June was because you did not answer my messages, we did not agree on anything regarding late delivery, that just turned out that way because you did not send anything. After a month or two you wrote me that the reason was that you were in the hospital?? You never mentioned anything about your house being under water??
Anyway, after a few months I recieve the gauges, but there was'nt any probes for any of them as we agreed and the temp gauge was dodgy because the probe was'nt detached in the correct manner. I told you that we had two options; you could send me the probes or I could mail you back the gauges. You, after a months concideration choose option number two, so I mailed you the gauges back. Then another month passed and I did not hear from you. Then after a month you write me back that the temp gauge is damaged during shipping, what a sad situation since this was the gauge that was broked in the first place. I PM you to send me photos so that I can make the claim, nothing happen, after another month I wrote you and told you that I could not reclaim if you did not send ma any evidence that the gauge was broken.......you still did not send ma anything.
Then we agree that you should make the claim and send me the money, that is now the only option since you have not provided me with eny evidence of the damage. That is now two to three months ago and I have still not recieved money, working gauges with probes or anything simular to that. I have however recieved a bunch of PM telling me to back of because you were waiting for the postal service. You wrote me that they had accepted the claim, but that you hav'nt recived the money, so I asked you to send me their contact informaition so that I could make contact myself. You have not sent me anything. It's now been over two moonths since you wrote me that they had accepted the claim...........if you do not send me the contact information, then what should I do other than write in the forum???

Before you start anything I have all your PMs regarding this matter, so it will be no problem for me to back up every single thing mentioned in this post.

Buttom line: You can tranfeer me the money or send me what I paid for and as soon as I recieve either I will back off. I have waisted enough time and money on a small time hustler like you.

Mikkel

There's always two sides to a story isn't there... two very different accounts of the truth.

I personally wouldn't have accepted either item as a return or indeed tried to return them, as that is the risk of buying second hand and why you get things at a fraction of the cost. As long as the item was in the condition it was described to be in...

I think you all need to discuss this away from a public forum as all we can do is give advice and opinions on the information we recieve.

Myles

iTrader: (40)

As said above, two accounts of the same story. The moral of the story is if you buy tubular headers, inspect the f***ing things before you take them home, and sure as hell inspect them before you send them back! Come on guys, lets kiss and make up

RRE

That is exaclt my point; Had I recieved what I had paid for this post would never had existed! I think that is one thing we do agree on in this matter, I did not recive gauges including all probes as i paid for, I recieved only the gauges.

The thing about doing these things in private is that it reguires both parts to be involved and in this case there has been alot of one way communication. Another thing is that I hope that other people than me report to the public when they are not being dealth with in a correct manner. If people are not professional enough to do the logistic part of a sale in this forum they should keep away from it to avoid situations like this.

I hope that one of the admins will go through all my private PMs and get the real story here.

Mikkel

Fair dos mate. Hope you can all sort it out amicably, if not now belatedly.

what would scooby do

I'm not sure if scoobynet uses same forum software as avforums.com but they have a trader rating system (just like ebay feedback) for sales between members. Maybe webbie and/or the new owners should look into this as an option?

RRE

There would be another and much easier way; People could treat each other with just a little bit of respect.

I have been on this forum for years and I have been buying alot of stuff without any problems. I do not think that the trading part of SN it the admins responsebility, I do however think that they should ban the people who do not play by the rules.

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

I'll tell you what then , you post whatever you like. I've been more than fair considering that you are completely inept.

I suggest you start legal proceedings. I know I have conducted myself in a more than fair way but your constant harrassment has gone too far.

Call the police, sue me or attempt to get me banned. You have had my phone number for months, you have my home and business address yet you choose to do things in this unprofessional public manner.

As you've been difficult from day one and you're now trying to humiliate me into giving you a refund before the insurance is paid out you're going to have to sue me or call the police. I'm not bothered which you do as I have all the correspondance from you, the claims department of the delivery company and the broken gauges themselves. Do your best I'm utterly and completely done dealing with you as you are unable to comprehend the fact that I WAS (past tense) going to give you full and complete refund upon reciept and clearance of the insurance cheque from the post office. You can now go and whistle!!

RRE

So just to get this straight you are now telling me that you are not going to refund anything? I just want to be 100% sure of what you are saying.

The reason that I made this post was because you did not answer my PM's, had you done that we would not have been in this mess.

Why is it so hard for you to send me the contact information and case ID to the postal company? Send it to me and I can deal with this myself!! It IS that simple.

Call me a prat all you want, but the fact that this post was started back in June should show that there is a reason for me writing here and the fact is that you have had 6 months to solve this issue and this is my final option.

Kindest regards

"Sunshine"

drb5

iTrader: (4)

Sorry Daz, but on your advert you said they were TSL headers and now they are RCM twisted............how does that work???????????? Goes to show that no matter what comes out your mouth isn't all the truth.
Daz's scooby page....https://www.scoobynet.com/scooby.php?profileid=353
Daz's for sale page....https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...ange-type.html

Yes you could have told me to go elsewhere, but you could have also said i wasn't getting the rest of my money back. Instead you blank 2 of my questions after you agree to something you haven't fallen up with. Tell me i ain't getting my money back and i'll take it in the chin.

Coming back with arguments that COULD have happened or SHOULD have happened isn't the way to go i'm afraid. You've said one thing and not done it.

mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

You'll probably find that the delivery company won't entertain you.

I don't know the ins and outs but I THINK that when a claim is made for damage in transit, it remains solely between the claiment and the companies claims department.

RRE

Thank you, could somebody that know how things normally work in the UK tell me if it's normal to wait two months for things like this?

It might be me that is used to a whole different service level. Here in Denmark you would get the cheque the minute the postal company accept that they have made a mistake!

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

The headers that TSL and RCM supply are made by the same company. Incedently its the up pipe thats rotated not the headers themselves. The rotated up pipe fits onto the three bolt flange. So for my rotated setup I am using the headers that you sent back to me but have replaced the standard fitment upipe for the rotated up pipe.

Here you'll see where the rotated upipe joins the headers
Dead simple, as a mechanic and a "subaru tuner" dave I thought you'd have known that????

Here's the pic that I advertised the headers with.


You'll easily see where the TSL/RCMS headers pair up with the RCMS twisted up pipe

Now who's mouth is spouting rubbish?

Myles

iTrader: (40)

Before you all tell me I am a newbie and have no right to say this, I will so here goes. I have seen this all before, insult tennis etc. so I think its time the mods lock this thread. There is now nothing to be proved or disproved, and the guys involved are now in contact ( sort of), so before there are massive rifts all over the place, just nip it now.
Just my two penneth.

RRE

I don't think that the fact you are a newbie has anything to say, you are 100% entitled to say what you have to say :-)

Basically I opened this post to get a 100% answer and I think I get it. It took Darren a few hours to confirm that he is now not going to refund my money OR send me the goods. I just wanted to get a confirmation as this has been my thought for a few months now.

Myles

iTrader: (40)

No worries mate, this is the downside of buying on t'internet. Two people can have completely different ideas of the quality of the exact same item.

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

This is why I cant believe you have gone about things this way. I have told you time and time again that you'll get your refund as soon as the delivery insurance for the damged goods that you returned has been recieved and is banked.

Up until tonight I have had every intention of giving a full refund. I must have said that a dozen times including atleast two or three times in tonights postings. You havent seemed to accept that and quite frankly i'm pissed off with you carrying the issue on even when I have said publicly on here that i would issue the refund once the cheque was recieved and cleared. But you're still saying i'm a con man or whatever.

So I really have nothing to lose by telling you to do one!!

RRE

For me it has never been a matter of quality, for me it was a simple matter of recieving what I paid for. I know that second hand parts are never perfect, they are after all second hand ;-)

The problem for me however remains the same, no goods AND no money.......

RRE

Darren I do not get what you mean by "telling you to do one"? It could be my english that is bad, but could you explain?

All I want and have been wanting from you for two months is a number and a claim ID to the postal service so that I can contact them myself. They might tell me to bugger off, but at least I have tried then!

Myles

iTrader: (40)

RRE, telling you to do one is telling you to sod off, get lost, you wont be getting what you want. Another delightful English description.

RRE

Thanks for clarifying that ;-)

Darren > Just for the record here, should I understand from your last post that you have, from today, no intention of transfeering the money?

andy97

iTrader: (1)

This is so easy to settle, Daz pass the details onto RRE, he can then check the claim and wait patiently for the cheque. If you dont supply the details then it looks like you're lying and had no intention of ever paying the money back.

Andy

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

The reason I haven't given nor will i give him the details is quite simple.

When I sent him the gauges they arrived intact although he didnt want them for reasons explained earlier.

So he returned them. When I recieved them They were damaged. As RRE didn't want to make a claim his end apparently because it was a complicated process that needed to be done in limited time I had to make the claim my end. In order for the claim to be approved I have had to say the damage occured when I posted them not when they were returned to me.

All it would take is for RRE to let slip that the damage occured when he posted them back and the claim is refused.

Not only that but I am not going to tolerate being bullied by this attempted public humilation. My final comment on this whole sorry saga and RRE I am going to say this for one last final time (that makes about 13 times in total)So please READ IT, COMPREHEND IT, and ACCEPT IT. That I will give you all of your money back when and only when I recieve the cheque from the postage insurance, bank the cheque and the funds clear in my account. That is of course if this smart arsed, very public outburst avoids the attention of the postage organisation involved.

Any more bad mouthing and attempted humilation and I'll bank the cheque and have a weekend of fun on it, plain and simple. My days of being bullied are long since over!!

Me writing earlier about telling you to do one is to try and make you realise that I could quite easily tell you to get lost.

I dont want to rip you off especially not for the minor sum of £175. You'll get your money but thats only going to happen when i'm paid out for MY broken gauges. Hopefully you'll now see sense and stop this stupid fruitless sniping thats getting us further and further from resolving this whole issue.

I will make no further posts regarding the guages. I do await drb5's reply where I have corrected him quite conclusively about is outburst as to whether the headers I have used on my rotated GT30R setup are indeed the ones he sent back to me. He's accused me of talking bollocks I've corrected him with the use of conclusive photo's too. I am really looking forward to what he has to say in reply.

Daz

drb5

iTrader: (4)

So the headers you are saying, had nothing wrong with them AT ALL?

Careful hear mate, as i have a witness and the photos to back it up.

Remember to take into consideration that i couldn't care less if i get any money back you. The thread has done it's work by showing you for who you are and what reaction people will get if they try to get what they are entitled to.....not only their money back(if they even WANT it back ) but an explaination as to why they STILL have recieved it and maybe, just maybe if they'll get it. Not doing yourself any favours here Daz.

2 people who DO have an arguement, against someone who likes to stretch giving money back. If we were telling the truth then why would we make up an arguement to put it on a forum??? After all these years of being on here, i've never had to put up with this. I know you have said similar, but it's your own fault for letting it go on for so long.

Oh and your "conclusive" photos.....no they aren't! LOL! They only thing they show is a 3 bolt up-pipe can fit headers that use a 3 bolt up-pipe. Wow! Your so technically minded. You've still not explained how if they were TSL before, but RCMS now. Trying to bum yourself up by putting a better name on them or what?