Whats the scoobys biggest fault...
04 July 2007, 03:52 AM
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04 July 2007, 08:44 AM
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The top mount may have been a 'quick and dirty cheap replacement', but it wasn't done for cost saving reasons, it was done because the people building the engines for the rally cars were increasingly struggling to get reliable competitive power using the Legacy's restrictive charge cooler set up
Ok, just quick then!
05 July 2007, 11:04 AM
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05 July 2007, 12:07 PM
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Image is a big issue, the WR blue STi's with gold wheels just make me cringe, and the number of other imprezas around make them a common site and more and more affordable. I don't like the top mounted intercooler and bonnet scoop either. It's not difficult to get fade on public roads with 4 pot brembos .
That said, they are one of the easiest cars to drive quickly you yould possibly have, plus its reliable has four doors and a decent sized boot. Which outweigh all of the above negatives.
That said, they are one of the easiest cars to drive quickly you yould possibly have, plus its reliable has four doors and a decent sized boot. Which outweigh all of the above negatives.
05 July 2007, 05:07 PM
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It may be more effecient than some of the cheaper than some of the really nasty cheap front mounts, but even a smaller well designed front mount will be better than a larger top mount. Plus it has the added benefit of no 'Heat Soak' a killer in the summer traffic jams.
I agree that the aftermarket long inlet tracts are far from ideal as they have a long way to travel. But, im talking about a redesign and I did say that Subaru should modify the tract. Reversed inlet manifolds reduce it to the same as a car like the Evo.
I also know from personal development experience that the STI intecooler does actually start to really suffer in performance at around +/- 370bhp and not the 400 plus that people seem to 'remember hearing'
So, I stand by my original point.
The design flaw is the top mount intercooler, which was an easy design fix.
Early Legacies had a charge cooler with the tank/heat enchanger where the TMIC now sits. The Top mount was a quick and dirty cheap replacement as it bolted in as a 'direct' replacement part.
I agree that the aftermarket long inlet tracts are far from ideal as they have a long way to travel. But, im talking about a redesign and I did say that Subaru should modify the tract. Reversed inlet manifolds reduce it to the same as a car like the Evo.
I also know from personal development experience that the STI intecooler does actually start to really suffer in performance at around +/- 370bhp and not the 400 plus that people seem to 'remember hearing'
So, I stand by my original point.
The design flaw is the top mount intercooler, which was an easy design fix.
Early Legacies had a charge cooler with the tank/heat enchanger where the TMIC now sits. The Top mount was a quick and dirty cheap replacement as it bolted in as a 'direct' replacement part.
05 July 2007, 09:23 PM
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2 bad points for me
crap paint and shockingly poor standard stereo and speakers
crap paint and shockingly poor standard stereo and speakers
Last edited by johnnyroper; 05 July 2007 at 09:24 PM. Reason: crap at spelling
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