Leslie

I also believe that the death penalty should be brought back. I also think that prison should be a real punishment, no privileges and hard labour every day. Make it unpleasant and they will be less likely to risk being sent up for a spell.

Les

The Zohan

Yes, agree!

andythejock01wrx

TBH I don't think these suggestions are unreasonable given what this beast did.

I wouldn't hang him. I'd chop his arms and legs off and stick him inside till he croaked.

The Snug Rhino

This is why we dont have a death penalty - people let emotions get in the way of the law.

This guy is a mentally ill criminal - what is the purpose of torturing him? revenge or tax saving seems to be about it!

The Snug Rhino

do you seriously belive this crime happened because the crimnal was satisfied that the punishment was acceptable if caught????

why are federal prisons in the US full if tough prisons are a good deterent?

jaydut

I think the pearents should decide what fate these sick c*nts should meet speaking as a father I would have no reseverations what so ever of putting the B*astard out of his misery and I would do it myself with no hesitation problem is we have to many do gooders about sayin they`re mantally ill etc and need counciling etc BOLLOX they need suffer like the poor little kids they make suffer

jaydut

of course the other sad fact is he will be isolated from the other prisoners and therefore will not recieve the intense f*cking over he so rightly deserves

rant over!!


For now

andythejock01wrx

Agreed. and anyway, I rather like the revenge aspect !

The Snug Rhino

Dont you mean "speaking as someone who hasn't thought through what i'm saying"

Where do you draw that line? If somone nicks my car can i select their punishment as well? or is this a special baby rapist rule you want to introduce?

or are you exaggerating because your emotions are running high?

andythejock01wrx

Are you for or against the death penalty rhino chap ?

wheelwright

This little girl was only 2, why should she have been put through this and killed?

It also appears this thing raped a 12 year old girl as well a few years ago but the charges were dropped at the last minute.

Prison won't work with this scum and other imates will not be able to get to him,
so i say Hang this ****.(guilty as charged) got no probs with the noose for him.

The Dogs B******s

Spot on

springbok

It's a sad world and that's no mistake.

I'm in the US at the moment and couldn't believe a TV report I saw the other day.

A 2 month old baby was put into a microwave for 10-20 seconds.
Turns out it was the father STORY HERE

How can people do such things as this?? I cann't even start to understand it.

andythejock01wrx

That's absolutely awful.

Jonno_johnson

Dirty pervert, i hope he gets beat like a drum in jail everyday hes in there, and i hope he never gets out.

P.s what a **** ugly *******

Sonic'

I'm actually at a loss for words over this

fast bloke

I think letting the victims decide the punishment is an excellent plan. I take it no-one has ever broken into your house to steal your car? When you wake up and realise someone has been wandering round you bedroom while you sleep you can think of various interesting and unusual punishments. On the flip side - I don't think we should bring back the death penalty - it is an easy out. Put this guy in an 8*6 cell, feed him porridge 3 times a day and make sure he knows he will be doing this until he leaves in a box in 50 or 60 years time. Mental illness is only an excuse IMHO.

OzzyWRX

A simililar thing happend in Melbourne not that long ago where the boyfriend shoved his girlfriends baby in a tumble dryer. She was broken and bruised, but pulled through in the end.

People like this have no place in the world, put them down like a rabid animal.

andythejock01wrx

I like porridge !!

andythejock01wrx

Agreed.

Leslie

I do know very well that when there was a death penalty for murder and when prison was an unpleasant place to spend some time that murder was comparatively scarce and there was considerably less crime than there is now.

These days because of the lax treatment of criminals and also the lack of discipline and self control being taught to children by parents or schools, life has become very cheap and people are being murdered for no real reason
any more. Also serious sexual crimes are being committed.

This man if he is mentally ill would be treated as such by the courts which is right, but I imagine he still knew the difference between right and wrong anyway. After he committed this dreadful offence, it was said that he left the house knowing full well that he had done something very wrong.

If we persist with the idea that those who commit crimes are mentally deficient or do it because of their background and are therefore not to blame for their actions and thus should only be "retrained" rather than punished, then we will make an even bigger rod for our backs and descend into complete anarchy.

Les

andythejock01wrx

Got any figures to confirm that the murder rate has increased since the abolition of the death penalty Les ?

jaydut

How can you compare the 2

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Or that there are more serious sex crimes being committed?

Or is that that there are more serious sex crimes being reported as this is much more possible with modern law enforcement?

Manda_po

And more widespread media coverage?

SJ_Skyline

Much as this animal deserves to be put to death, I believe bringing back the death penalty will have the wrong negative effect. We will have the situations where juries know that a guilty verdict will result in the death penalty and so they will be less likely to return a guilty verdict and consequently more people who are really guilty will walk free.

Sonic'

Can anyone answer this ?

Ok, Prison life these days seems to be somewhat a bit of an easy life, especially in comparison to years ago

People who commit crimes, know the law much better and know there is a good chance they can get off with certain crimes, or at least get a much lower sentence and released a lot earlier

With this in mind, has crime rate increased over the last 20 years, if so is it because of the above ?

gooner 1

iTrader: (11)

I think that the crime rate has certainly increased in the last 20 years and beleive that there is no real deterant for crimes. Society finds certain crimes "socially acceptable" these days!
There is no shame to society, we as a nation just accept that there are lowlifes and scumbags and dregs of society - those who drain the taxpayer and all the rest of it.
But we should never accept that children are the ones who suffer at the hands of such animals! I think that perverts and rapists are amongst the worst possible crimes and my heart sincerely goes out to the family members who are left behind to remember what these poor children go through.
Its easy to see why people get so angry - when they look at there own kids (as I do) and recall these sorts of stories - as parents we try to protect our children and the thought of them coming to harm at someone elses hands is indescribable!
We as "normal" people can't understand how a man can get aroused by a two year old to do such a terrible act - thats because we are normal and he clearly isn't!
I think that people who commit such awful crimes should be dragged through the streets for the people to stone until every bone is broken and that then he should have to look into the eyes of the parents - and then be left alone with them.
I do have one question though - why is it that in certain states in America when they put people to death with lethal injections - why do they bother using sterile needles????