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Old 06 July 2007 | 11:53 AM
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with respect mate, and i'm sure you love the car and how it goes now, but allowing 23% for transmission loss is a guaranteed way to get you going home with a smile

scooby tranny loss is more like 13% which makes yours about 320/325 which is more like it for the mods. i would add though that this is a pretty good figure for PPP remap, but going to andy i would expect good things to happen
13% I wish..!!!

With all due respect, you obviously don't know what you're talking about..

A well designed FWD transmission would be lucky to get only 13% losses, with RWD around 18% and AWD anything from 22-24% depending on gearbox and diffs etc..!

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Old 06 July 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Agree mate. Note my graph on page 1. Stipulates loss allowance of 23%
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Thank you Jasonius and RLE

I love the fact that some members on here think they know more than the pros
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Originally Posted by jasonius

With all due respect, you obviously don't know what you're talking about..


i was told this by a reputable mapper, don't know if you fall into this category, but i'll take his word for it ta

wheel horsepower + 13% will give PPProb 320 odd, which for his mods is a good map. no way it'll produce 350. sorry. headers and other work needs doing to get to that sort of figure.

unless the formula i was given equates to a 23% transmission loss, in which case i humbly apologise
Old 06 July 2007 | 07:34 PM
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Alright Gaz,

When I spoke to Powerstation they said that a Something something Roller ball bearing Turbo which is meant to be slightly bigger than the Standard. I just can't remember the name of it. Plus there doing a good deal on Type 25 suspention. Thats the plan that should sufice and kind of meet my needs/wants half way without spending too much £££, as I should be selling it in 2 yrs.

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Alex,

Having experienced RLE's car at different stages of modification, personally i would definitely follow the 18G route, yes a bigger turbo can have slightly more lag than a standard Vf35 but with the right supporting mods (and a deep pocket ) you should be able to acheive what your after.

18 & 20g are fairly notorious for turbo surge (confirmed by a reputable mapper!) so id probably suggest finding someone closer to you who has already modified to this level & be a cheeky git & ask for a ride to see for yourself, bare in mind tho that with more power you brakes will be under more stopping stress so you may have to splash out on bigger brakes!

RLE's car pulls like a train, i've been in some bloody fast cars over the last few years, but you certainly know when he taps the pedal!

Again this is just my opinion, and each to their own

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Old 06 July 2007 | 09:27 PM
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so is the vf35 only capable of around 350bhp then. what would be an ideal bolt on replacement.
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Originally Posted by hardsy555
so is the vf35 only capable of around 350bhp then. what would be an ideal bolt on replacement.
Rob (RLE) was running vf35 with this chart


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Originally Posted by hardsy555
so is the vf35 only capable of around 350bhp then. what would be an ideal bolt on replacement.
16, 18 or 20g
Old 06 July 2007 | 09:58 PM
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and where would you get that from and how much, and would that literaly just bolt on or do you have to make any adjustments and what would that give as apposed to the vf35.
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Originally Posted by hardsy555
and where would you get that from and how much, and would that literaly just bolt on or do you have to make any adjustments and what would that give as apposed to the vf35.
You'll deffo need a remap, Rob's 18g came from Andy Forrest, think it was £1000 (or there abouts)
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jesus that much think il keep the bloody vf35, get to about 330-340 and call it a day £1000 will by much needed suspension to cure my understeer!!!!
Old 06 July 2007 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hardsy555
jesus that much think il keep the bloody vf35, get to about 330-340 and call it a day £1000 will by much needed suspension to cure my understeer!!!!
remember you can always sell your VF35.... get back £300 odd.!!

or keep your eye open in the for sale section... they do appear every now and then.!
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Originally Posted by hardsy555
jesus that much think il keep the bloody vf35, get to about 330-340 and call it a day £1000 will by much needed suspension to cure my understeer!!!!
PS Rob also has AST's

as mentioned above, you could always sell the Vf35 & keep your eye on the For Sale forum
Old 06 July 2007 | 11:20 PM
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right ok. the origanal plan was to get my 04 sti ppp up to about 330ish 340 would be better and sort the suspension for about £2ooo so is this realistic then or am i going to have to sell the house, missus, kids, and the dogs...
Old 06 July 2007 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hardsy555
right ok. the origanal plan was to get my 04 sti ppp up to about 330ish 340 would be better and sort the suspension for about £2ooo so is this realistic then or am i going to have to sell the house, missus, kids, and the dogs...
you will be pushing to do it all for 2k, won't take too much more though.

Be prepared to take a hit on parts then sell the old ones on.
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H&S Headers (Wrapped)
H&S 3" Downpipe Wrapped)
H&S Uppipe
H&S 3" centre section
H&S Orginal Back Box
K&N Panel Filter
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Bob Rawle Remap

was good enough to see my 03 sti type uk non PPP to 358/359
Old 07 July 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeyTang
H&S Headers (Wrapped)
H&S 3" Downpipe Wrapped)
H&S Uppipe
H&S 3" centre section
H&S Orginal Back Box
K&N Panel Filter
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Bob Rawle Remap

was good enough to see my 03 sti type uk non PPP to 358/359
what was the bill?
Old 07 July 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RMA26
You'll deffo need a remap, Rob's 18g came from Andy Forrest, think it was £1000 (or there abouts)
Andy F. does do px on turbo's so could be less than that £1000. Go see his web site. He maps well too! ;-))

TD05-18G - goes very well and little / no extra lag. I got TD05-20G and again little extra lag, 1 bar boost by 3200 rpm, 1.65 bar by 3600 rpm. Waste gate area is ported to reduce compressor surge.

Harvey does ported and wrapped original headers, worth some spool and bhp/torque, good deal if avoiding cost of tubular steel ones, and keep the scooby rumble!
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Originally Posted by pippyrips
what was the bill?
£2500 followed by a thick ear from the missus and the the dreaded cold shoulder . Full track day at oulton park reminded me it was more than worth it . Still gettin the cold shoulder now but who cares
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what sort of boost are you lot running to make that much torque?? mine was mapped at powerstation, hits 1.3bar and tails off to 1.25 up top and made 334bhp and under 290lbft

ported headers
3 port solinoid
prodrive d.pipe
full 2.75" milltek
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Old 07 July 2007 | 04:55 PM
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mine peaks at 1.4 bar
Old 07 July 2007 | 05:33 PM
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where are bob rawle and andy f based to bacause im in devon. aaarrrrrgghh
Old 07 July 2007 | 05:37 PM
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You are ever so slightly closer to Bob then

He is in Swindon.

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ok ta so if i was to go to him then and say sort out the bhp and i want change to do the suspension he would be able to do it.
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
You are ever so slightly closer to Bob then

He is in Swindon.

Andy

Andy is ooop north ... north of the border in Edinburgh ... but have laptop will travel!
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what about the rolling road?
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If you map with Bob he will e-mail you your power output and power graph. I would imagine he gets the data from the mapping session
Old 08 July 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by hardsy555
ok ta so if i was to go to him then and say sort out the bhp and i want change to do the suspension he would be able to do it.
the mapping yes, not the suspension
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Isn't there an Ecutek dealer located somewhere in Devon.....?
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there is , its in plympton but i have heard no feedback from there and when you throw the best part of £1000 you want to know that its good.



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