Heads up - James may getting chucked around in a Typhoon at 8pm
19 July 2007, 02:57 PM
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I am really quite surprised at what you say about delta winged aircraft.
The low speed handling of the Vulcan for example was very very good. If you ever saw a full display you would have realised that. It was perfectly capable of doing a figure of eight double turn in each direction well inside the length of the runway at low level and at low speed opening and closing the bombdoors as it was doing it. It could climb into a wing over going inverted at the top to change direction at each end of the crowd line, it could also climb off the runway from a roller landing in the true vertical up to 3-4000 feet depending on the temperature of the day. It was able to land and stop within some 400 yards of the touchdown point. It had to be able to approach slowly enough to do that! It could also out turn an F15 at high level as we proved during Red Flag exercises. It was used as a low level attack bomber for over ten years during the Cold War and was also almost impossible to shoot down at low level since it was manoeuverable enough to stop a fighter getting a "blue sky" shot while flying down the valleys etc. Only a SAM was likely to get us-if it was lucky!
The only side effect it had was that of adverse yaw due to the use of the controls in the aileron sense. All aircraft do this to some extent but it was more marked with the Vulcan particularly at pattern speeds. This was not due so much to the delta wing but to the very effective large elevon controls at the trailing edge. This was actually no problem anyway, it just meant that the pilot soon learned to keep the aircraft in balanced flight while manoeuvring with the use of the very effective rudder. Rather like a single piston engined aircraft in fact.
The ability of the Vulcan to manoeuvre particularly at low level astounded all who saw it especially since it was such a large machine being 111 feet wide and 109 feet long!
Hope that all helps!
Les
The low speed handling of the Vulcan for example was very very good. If you ever saw a full display you would have realised that. It was perfectly capable of doing a figure of eight double turn in each direction well inside the length of the runway at low level and at low speed opening and closing the bombdoors as it was doing it. It could climb into a wing over going inverted at the top to change direction at each end of the crowd line, it could also climb off the runway from a roller landing in the true vertical up to 3-4000 feet depending on the temperature of the day. It was able to land and stop within some 400 yards of the touchdown point. It had to be able to approach slowly enough to do that! It could also out turn an F15 at high level as we proved during Red Flag exercises. It was used as a low level attack bomber for over ten years during the Cold War and was also almost impossible to shoot down at low level since it was manoeuverable enough to stop a fighter getting a "blue sky" shot while flying down the valleys etc. Only a SAM was likely to get us-if it was lucky!
The only side effect it had was that of adverse yaw due to the use of the controls in the aileron sense. All aircraft do this to some extent but it was more marked with the Vulcan particularly at pattern speeds. This was not due so much to the delta wing but to the very effective large elevon controls at the trailing edge. This was actually no problem anyway, it just meant that the pilot soon learned to keep the aircraft in balanced flight while manoeuvring with the use of the very effective rudder. Rather like a single piston engined aircraft in fact.
The ability of the Vulcan to manoeuvre particularly at low level astounded all who saw it especially since it was such a large machine being 111 feet wide and 109 feet long!
Hope that all helps!
Les
I was at Woodford the other day and took time out to get a view of their static example - truly awesome.
19 July 2007, 03:02 PM
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Well, that's because I didn't foolishly annouce to the community that I'm a fighter jock when not posting on Scoobynet
I'm not a pilot, far from it - can't stand flying. There is however a selection of Typhoons a few yards away And a Harrier or two, Hawks, a few Nimrods and of course our trusty corporate travel hack, the 146.
I'm not a pilot, far from it - can't stand flying. There is however a selection of Typhoons a few yards away
And a Harrier or two, Hawks, a few Nimrods and of course our trusty corporate travel hack, the 146.Cheers
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19 July 2007, 03:05 PM
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Well, that's because I didn't foolishly annouce to the community that I'm a fighter jock when not posting on Scoobynet
I'm not a pilot, far from it - can't stand flying. There is however a selection of Typhoons a few yards away And a Harrier or two, Hawks, a few Nimrods and of course our trusty corporate travel hack, the 146.
I'm not a pilot, far from it - can't stand flying. There is however a selection of Typhoons a few yards away
And a Harrier or two, Hawks, a few Nimrods and of course our trusty corporate travel hack, the 146.
....... I'm also blonde and rather dashing..... 
...... tranche 2 indeed Back in 10 off to do a few circuits
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19 July 2007, 03:36 PM
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19 July 2007, 04:04 PM
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