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Old 18 July 2007, 10:00 PM
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Kerb weight of a MY02 STi - 1470kg!
Ditto MY07 STi - 1495kg.
Ditto 911 4s (997) - 1475kg.

Nowt in it ... I'm stunned!

TX.
Old 18 July 2007, 10:02 PM
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Given that the 911 is more powerful + similar weight then Porsche must be quicker. Scoob would be close up to 100 though

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Old 18 July 2007, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Given that the 911 is more powerful + similar weight then Porsche must be quicker. Scoob would be close up to 100 though

TX.
Great because a 0 100 drag race counts for so much when evaluating a car!!
Old 18 July 2007, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian Cook
Whats the kerb weight of a STi 5? think its about 1400kg the 996 C4S is approx 1320 Kg so the scoob may actually be heavier
They weigh 1240kg, according to Type-r-ra register. 220bhp per tone standard.
:: Subaru Impreza Type R RA Register
@ tonyburns, its just got the full zorst with decat and pannel filter, no remap as of yet.

Has anybody raced 1 with a similar car to mine?
Old 18 July 2007, 10:43 PM
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only ever had a play with a carrer 4s once off a set of traffic lights (on a private road )

there was nothing in it at all, dead heat up to about 60mph.

mines a slightly tweek uk turbo classic
Old 18 July 2007, 10:52 PM
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Regardless, I know which I'd rather have
Old 18 July 2007, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RRH
Regardless, I know which I'd rather have
That's not what the poster is asking.



Why don't people share their past driving situations/experiences in relation to the topic that may assist the question rather than generalising.

Me.....I took on a Carrera 4 (can't remember the model) in my Bugeye and stayed with it till 80. There you go................real world example.

From my experience I think the Type R will do us proud.
Old 18 July 2007, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bob r
That's not what the poster is asking.



Why don't people share their past driving situations/experiences in relation to the topic that may assist the question rather than generalising.

Me.....I took on a Carrera 4 (can't remember the model) in my Bugeye and stayed with it till 80. There you go................real world example.

From my experience I think the Type R will do us proud.
Until about 80 so you stayed with it for approx 8 secs well done!!!:
Old 18 July 2007, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
only ever had a play with a carrer 4s once off a set of traffic lights (on a private road )

there was nothing in it at all, dead heat up to about 60mph.

mines a slightly tweek uk turbo classic
Well it must have been my grandmother driving the porker !! Honestly you should listen to yourself how on earth you can keep a stright face and say that !
Old 19 July 2007, 12:11 AM
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LOL well yes I have had a 'real life' experience with a newish C4S, mixture of dual carriageway and sweeping A-roads. It was a great drive, is all I'll say. Me in my v4 WRX wagon loaded up with a chest of drawers in the back, him in the 911, both going for it at every opportunity. No way of telling really which was faster, it was fairly even, not that it really matters. The two cars do different things.
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I never said 0-100

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Originally Posted by finchyboy
Great because a 0 100 drag race counts for so much when evaluating a car!!
Old 19 July 2007, 03:24 AM
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Porsche made for track, impreza rally. Take him out for a gravel race:-)
I weighted my STI 3 Type-R when registrated it in Sweden. 1260 kilo fully fueled up (-3 or 4 litres) and with spare tyre and some tools in the boot.
Old 19 July 2007, 03:56 AM
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Had a short blast against a carrera convertable last night,dunno what model it was,just said carrera on the back and was a year old i think...i was stuck behind him on a dual carriageway just after leaving the roundabout and he was slowly overtaking a van,he pulls into the left lane after overtaking it so i floor it,and he bloody does too staying one car length in front of me,obviously thought it would be funny to not let me overtake him we stayed the same distance apart until reaching xxx mph,where another vehicle was in his lane so he moved into mine...after that short blast he pulled to the left again and eased of the gas as did I,when i went past he waved me by ...friendly chappy

All in my little mcs

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Old 19 July 2007, 12:04 PM
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I've had a short experience with a 911(996) Carrera 4S on a 53 plate, it was on a private road of course, we both got up to around 100 mph on the straights slowing down for a couple of private roundabouts and then powering through. I stayed with it all the way, he was not puling away at all. I then had to take a different turning, I flashed him and he flashed his hazards back. It was all a bit of fun and we had respect for eachother so no harm done
Old 19 July 2007, 12:24 PM
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Followed a 911 home from work the other days. Fella was getting a good seeing to around the wedding tackle region. Poor spotty boy in the Scooby would be paying the local teenage tramp to do the same.

Old 19 July 2007, 12:29 PM
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LOL at the fact that so many Scoobynetters have raced a 911 !!
Old 19 July 2007, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathias
Porsche made for track, impreza rally. Take him out for a gravel race:-)
I weighted my STI 3 Type-R when registrated it in Sweden. 1260 kilo fully fueled up (-3 or 4 litres) and with spare tyre and some tools in the boot.
I would bet that the road going 911 has more in common with a pukka racing 911 than a road going Impreza has with even a Group N Rally car.

If you do a gravel rally stage in a road going Impreza, you'll need a few bits replacing I bet!

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Old 19 July 2007, 12:47 PM
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I think that certain people are getting a bit confused with this thread - i for one minute am not saying that a Scoob is a better car, Hell if someone gave me a choice it would be a 997S on the drive everytime.

All i'm saying is a lightly modded Subaru punches far above its weight and would certainly give a 997S a run for its money (up to a certain speed of course)

With regards to track work i'd stick my neck out and say a well sorted Spec C would give any 911 a hard time
Old 19 July 2007, 12:49 PM
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Real Life experience:

I did a Don Palmer course at a very damp Bruntingthorpe in January this year. There was a fairly new 4s there.

We passengered in each others cars, and came to the same conclusion.

On the handling course there was not a lot in it, even with my T25 suspension and nearly 400bhp. I was quicker in accelleration, about the same (maybe slightly quicker) around the cones, but boy - could he outdo me on braking.


On balance I had the edge in a powerful modified Scoobie (With DS2500's). But not by much. Even with Don driving both cars (He was genuinely impressed by the 4s).


However,
I dont really expect to race one flat out through a 90 degree contraflow system on a private road every day.


Also, £60k vs £16K
Old 19 July 2007, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by silent running
LOL well yes I have had a 'real life' experience with a newish C4S, mixture of dual carriageway and sweeping A-roads. It was a great drive, is all I'll say. Me in my v4 WRX wagon loaded up with a chest of drawers in the back, him in the 911, both going for it at every opportunity. No way of telling really which was faster, it was fairly even, not that it really matters. The two cars do different things.
A loaded WRX against a C4S?

You are seriously deluded
Old 19 July 2007, 02:55 PM
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No more fighthing children

YouTube - Porsche Carrera 4S vs. Subaru Impreza

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Old 19 July 2007, 06:47 PM
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Type R 280bhp & 1240kg
996 C4S 320bhp & 1470kg

I doubt there would be much in it tbh ...& I know if I had one i'd be very wary of throwing £40K+ through a hedge backwards!!
Old 19 July 2007, 08:38 PM
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Daz, its the S, the "normal" one is 320, the S is 350bhp

Banny, good vid though even when hes meant to sound enthusiastic about the sound the C4S makes, he still looks strict

Tony
Old 20 July 2007, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Daz, its the S, the "normal" one is 320, the S is 350bhp

Banny, good vid though even when hes meant to sound enthusiastic about the sound the C4S makes, he still looks strict

Tony
Always thought 996 C4 & C4S are both 320? ...as the current 997 C4S is 350 (Had a good look at one when my mate was buying a Cayman)

Porsche Data Guide 996 details

Paul Stephens Porsche 911 Data 2

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Old 20 July 2007, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by finchyboy
Until about 80 so you stayed with it for approx 8 secs well done!!!:
Well I was pleased with myself and the look on the Porsche owners face
Unforgetable.
Old 20 July 2007, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bob r
Well I was pleased with myself and the look on the Porsche owners face
Unforgetable.
Good on ya mate

It's all a bit of fun at the end of the day, don't know why so many ppl here are putting others down for trying against a Porsche
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