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Old 18 October 2007, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
A cycling guide from HMSO states clearly that cycling on a pavement is illegal.
Indeed, I stand (or should that be cycle) corrected.

I note that ages 11 and under can do so if accompanied by adult cycling (and the adult must be on the road!). Also 5 & under can cycle on pavements anytime.
Old 18 October 2007, 12:54 PM
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Last Wednesday I hit a pedestrian in Islington who walked out on a 'Red Man' without looking.

Hit her at 20mph+ full on (nowhere to go).

Police and ambulance were in presence and all details taken. Luckily another cyclist stopped who backed up that I had gone through a green light.

Not once did anyone ask if I was alright despite a cut leg, a totally fooked front wheel and bent forks. I was just left to hobble off and buy a new front wheel. It's always the cyclists fault.

This morning just missed a girl with headphones on in Islington who just walked out 20 feet infront of the pedestrian crossing without looking (cars on red) and then again a bloke on the Farringdon Road did the same thing!

It's a dangerous world out there and 'always the cyclists fault'. The crash last week has cost me £100 to fix for something that wasn't my fault so I hope she's still hurting!
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Old 18 October 2007, 03:45 PM
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On a push-bike it is very much harder work accelerating, slowing and accelerating again so every cyclist tries to maintain speed at all times.

Some cyclists have yet to learn that falling off or being knocked off, no matter whose fault, is painfull and expensive at the very least. Often much worse.

Not all cyclists are mad and a well-ridden bike slips along almost invisibly. That's why the ratio of ***** to good riders is, apparently, so high.

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Originally Posted by vindaloo
Regarding the "London" or "central London" thing. Everyone learns to behave utterly ruthlessly when trying to get from A to B. If you don't, if you act politely or deferentially, the "pack" scents weakness and before you know it you're unable to move anywhere.

It's a personal armour one dons when entering a sh*thole. Central London is overcrowded, over polluted, overpriced and by modern standards, underdeveloped.

J.
Quoted as I think it's key to the whole thread. You could have started a thread entitled "Drivers in London - aaaaargh" and it would be just as accurate.

Or even "People in London". I remember walking down Oxford Street the Saturday before Christmas one year; I'd barely got 100 yards before I started thinking that the geezer in Hungerford some years back might not have been so wrong after all.
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Brendan - you're mad going down Oxford St that close to Christmas but I agree with your sentiments!
FWIW I do ride my bike on the pavement when going to work or to get down to the cycle path along the Grand Union Canal for the simple reason that the roads are in an appalling state near to the kerbs and most car drivers our way try to bully their way past. I am concious that I shouldn't really be on the footpath so I don't tank it and never expect pedestrians to get out of my way - if I catch them up, I will hop off and walk around them with the bike and if they do move then they always get a big smile and a thanks.
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It's no scientific revelation to state that people in big cities are much less friendlier than people outside them.
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On a push-bike it is very much harder work accelerating, slowing and accelerating again so every cyclist tries to maintain speed at all times.

Some cyclists have yet to learn that falling off or being knocked off, no matter whose fault, is painfull and expensive at the very least. Often much worse.

Not all cyclists are mad and a well-ridden bike slips along almost invisibly. That's why the ratio of ***** to good riders is, apparently, so high.

Richard.
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Originally Posted by Philip Attaway
Last Wednesday I hit a pedestrian in Islington who walked out on a 'Red Man' without looking.

Hit her at 20mph+ full on (nowhere to go).

Police and ambulance were in presence and all details taken. Luckily another cyclist stopped who backed up that I had gone through a green light.

Not once did anyone ask if I was alright despite a cut leg, a totally fooked front wheel and bent forks. I was just left to hobble off and buy a new front wheel. It's always the cyclists fault.

This morning just missed a girl with headphones on in Islington who just walked out 20 feet infront of the pedestrian crossing without looking (cars on red) and then again a bloke on the Farringdon Road did the same thing!

It's a dangerous world out there and 'always the cyclists fault'. The crash last week has cost me £100 to fix for something that wasn't my fault so I hope she's still hurting!
Philip,

sorry to hear of your misfortune. If I may I would like to make a couple of comments. If you had hit her in a car or from a motorbike, the response would have been the same. There would have been no sympathy AND no-one would have asked you if you were OK. It wasn't just because you were a cyclist.

Secondly, if it really was her fault as you suggest you should have taken details and claimed from her for your damages. You are well within your rights to do so. She may have even been covered by insurance.

Rannoch
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