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Old 22 August 2007, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood

I for onew would rather see it debated, even if PB is completely wrong and a sandle wearing girl

Sod off, Hitler!
Old 22 August 2007, 12:38 PM
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part of prison has to be about reform as well as punishment - Otherwise, you may as well just kill them on arrival.
Crikey!! I think the sandle wearing liberal's onto something!
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Crikey!! I think the sandle wearing liberal's onto something!
Call me a liberal all yo ulike _ but I draw the line at wearing sandals... I even hate the word.

Sandals, Flip flops and all other foot exposing footwear is the work of Beelzebub.
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Crikey!! I think the sandle wearing liberal's onto something!
It would get my vote, Cameron - are you listening!?!

I bet PB does wear sandles and they are his best shoes!
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
It would get my vote, Cameron - are you listening!?!

I bet PB does wear sandles and they are his best shoes!
I'll wager a fiver that he wears a nice pair of dark coloured socks under those sandles as well
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*******s!
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
A subject like this is boud to raise a few hackles, i should know. Iw we start to chuck insults around then it could get locked or closed which would be a shame.

I for onew would rather see it debated, even if PB is completely wrong and a sandle wearing girl
That's rich.

You haven't said chimbowonga should be hung or shot

You want to send him to Italy.

I'd rather live in Italy than this sh!te hole !

Go hug a tree Habgood
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Originally Posted by jasey
That's rich.

You haven't said chimbowonga should be hung or shot

You want to send him to Italy.

I'd rather live in Italy than this sh!te hole !

Go hug a tree Habgood
Done, i now have what looks like sap all over my plus fours

Given a choice i would have hung the ****er for what he did and now he gets to sponge off o fthe UK benefit system for as long as he wants to, not exactly going to be a flood of job offers are there.

More likely he will get a book or paper deal worth £££££££'s to tell his side of the story and how it is not his fault.
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
I'll wager a fiver that he wears a nice pair of dark coloured socks under those sandles as well
My god he must be a German
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
No Worries




Firstly, I agree, the fact his Father was/is a nasty piece of work is no justification for how Chindamo turned out. But, it comes as no surprise.

I'm not standing up for "him", as much as trying to ensure that justice stays blind.

It is not because he "wants to stay" that I do not think he should be deported. I am not defending Chindamo. I am looking at this from a point of view of the law and the wider picture.

You cannot have one rule for a certain person, no matter how unsavoury he is.

The question is, why do people want him deported?

Is it to further punish him?

His punishment is his Jail term, once he serves it, he has "Paid his due". Whether you agree with the length of time or not, in the eyes of the judge that sentenced him, he has paid his debt to society.

The other reason I don't agree with deportation is because what on earth gives us the right to force this person on Italy? Why should italian society have to put up with him? He is a product of British upbringing, British schools, Briitsh infrastructure.

So you see, I am not siding with Chindamo, it is not some lefty crusade for a murdering arsehole. I am just trying to look from a wider viewpoint.


I cant see much water in the argument to be honest Pete..

If he has a non uk passport then he should be deported....

Language will not be a barrier, as half of europe speaks prolly better English than us.... He would be entitled to benefits...so there would be no hardship...

Originally Posted by PeteBrant
You cannot have one rule for a certain person, no matter how unsavoury he is.
Erm you can and we do...Hindly & Brady were and still are in prison for murder...why has this guy been let out?


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The other reason I don't agree with deportation is because what on earth gives us the right to force this person on Italy? Why should italian society have to put up with him? He is a product of British upbringing, British schools, Briitsh infrastructure.
Because he is not British, by holding an Italian passport, he is in effect an Italian, like it or not. If you cast your mind back...there was wheelchair bound paedo, who was released from jail in OZ, he held a British passport, and was promptly deported on release. We didn't like it, but had to accept it. Similarly the Italians might not like it, but he IS Italian.

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Is it to further punish him?
Possibly so? but then many feel that 12 years is pitiful given that he,s wrecked 3 lives so far. Murder is meant to be the ultimate crime...there are bank robbers locked up for longer...


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