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Perhaps their focus is in the wrong place then: As they condemn the use of a device rather than condemning government policy that is allowing this country to continue in social decline. The arresting officer is at the bottom level of that chain, as is the Tazer. They are ones who volunteer to be in that role, no matter how disillusioned many probably are with the red tape, CPS and increasing lack of social control (which is normally associated with a declining economy...when our economy isn't - well, we would be led to belive anyway ).
Maybe their arguments would be better served being actively aimed towards the higher powers that restrain law enforcement by allowing criminals to go with petty sentances, not providing deterrants to crime, and essentially cutting back on enforcement to allow crime to carry on needlessly.
Maybe their arguments would be better served being actively aimed towards the higher powers that restrain law enforcement by allowing criminals to go with petty sentances, not providing deterrants to crime, and essentially cutting back on enforcement to allow crime to carry on needlessly.
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I don't think that it was fake - the Mad Mullah was probably connected by "alligator clips" with the wires dangling on the floor - see YouTube - Armed and Famous Taser Scene for some "other" folks trying out a Taser.
So, apart from not getting metal barbs shot into your back, only having a one and a half second burst of "juice" compared with the standard five seconds, having a couple of "mates" to catch you, and falling onto soft rubber matting, he must have had a very realistic experience
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So, apart from not getting metal barbs shot into your back, only having a one and a half second burst of "juice" compared with the standard five seconds, having a couple of "mates" to catch you, and falling onto soft rubber matting, he must have had a very realistic experience
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Nit picking as in using a case of shooting an illegal immgrant by plain clothered firearms officers in a extreme scienario to condemn the use of tazers by uniformed police. It's a weak argument; So is the deaf one too (the person would still have to resist arrest).
OK then. If you think its such a bad idea.....
What BETTER way is there to aprehend somebody who is resisting arrest (possibly armed with a knife) and not following a Police officer's instructions?
CS gas, repeated clubbing with a baton, shouting "your under arrest", shoot them in the leg with a gun, or how about focusing more efforts on speeding drivers instead?
OK then. If you think its such a bad idea.....
What BETTER way is there to aprehend somebody who is resisting arrest (possibly armed with a knife) and not following a Police officer's instructions?
CS gas, repeated clubbing with a baton, shouting "your under arrest", shoot them in the leg with a gun, or how about focusing more efforts on speeding drivers instead?
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Well you will just have to continue to disagree with it then. Because, I repeat, comparing the use of a device issued to uniformed officers for day to day use cannot be compared to plain clothed firearms officer carrying out an terrorist operation acting on intelligence (albeit incorrect), in a case where protocol was blatently breached (did he resist, did he not etc) and those responsible are still being held accountable.
If protocol is followed and the person does not resist arrest and submits fully to a clothed officer who wants to aprehend that person, then they will not get zapped. It is as simple as that.
If that person resists arrest, well, be it on their head. Be it a person who has or hasn't commited an offence.
One has to also question why people who know they have done nothing wrong still resist. Did their mothers ever tell them as toddlers that having tantrums will get them nowhere?
It's understandable that one may get annoyed at such an occurance, but equally one should be respectful and not act in an aggressive manner (be it verbal or physical) to make an officer use such a device. Too many people feel they have the right to act in such a manner, when it is tottally unexceptable regardless of the situation.
And I am STILL am yet to hear a better alternative to aprehend somebody who is resisting arrest ........
If protocol is followed and the person does not resist arrest and submits fully to a clothed officer who wants to aprehend that person, then they will not get zapped. It is as simple as that.
If that person resists arrest, well, be it on their head. Be it a person who has or hasn't commited an offence.
One has to also question why people who know they have done nothing wrong still resist. Did their mothers ever tell them as toddlers that having tantrums will get them nowhere?
It's understandable that one may get annoyed at such an occurance, but equally one should be respectful and not act in an aggressive manner (be it verbal or physical) to make an officer use such a device. Too many people feel they have the right to act in such a manner, when it is tottally unexceptable regardless of the situation.
And I am STILL am yet to hear a better alternative to aprehend somebody who is resisting arrest ........
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