Spoon

Andymal, did they give a reason for not wanting to breed her?

Lesley, Santa uses them at Christmas so they were always going to take that bit longer due to an extraordinarily large amount of use and their size.

Lee247

You could have warned me. I am not used to waxing anything of that size

Zooms

The likelyhood is that she was bred from, or they have tried and she is baron, as is very common in Husky X Malamutes.

Non bred from dogs from there have, in the past, been vet checked and found to have in fact had a litter or two, but the rescue has to go on what the kennel says, when they deliver them !

Many Tears rescue take in all that kennel's ex breeding dogs. There are usually several there.

THe kennel also breed Pure Malamutes, Akita-mutes, English Bull Terriers, Bull Terrier X Malamute and Husky x Malamute, so any of these can regularly be seen at that rescue centre

Editd ; sorry I know I'm not Andymal, but as I know this kennel, jusst thought I would put in my two penneth !

Spoon

I'd assumed as much as is the case a lot when there is no longer a commercial use although I do appreciate you're assuming too and it might not be fact.

Zooms

Yep, like I said, the bitch could have been baron, so no good to them !

Snazy

A suprisingly hot debate suddenly there. Wow!
Some very good advice though and some very simple truths too.
So sad to see Cookie there as has been said, and I know other rescues support the assumptions too, most dogs coming from breeders are just "of no use".
Once registered as a breeder or even recognised they should have to pay the rescue a daily fee like a care home til its rehomed. All good when your breeding them, but when one goes wrong, just bin it (send it to rescue) !!!!!!!

A quick line just to say I have a lot of time for Spoon too Honest opinions, and sensible advice. Not rammed down your throat. So thank you for all your time speaking to me

Back to Russell's new pup.
As per PM, consider Arden Grange for the diet. Nicely balanced for their coats, and Tuvaaq has seen no issues and great growth and development with it. I realise all dogs are different. With regards to BARF, if you hear about it or anything, do LOTS of reading before even considering it. I think Spoon would agree on this too. Lots of hype but few realise how complex it is.
AG food is slightly more expensive, but ONE of the favoured. There are of course others, im sure or I hope, the breeder has given you a feeding guide and puppy pack or 2.

Training, get it in early. None of the jumping up, mouthing, punching etc should be entertained. They get very set in their ways early on, and as they get bigger and more dominant, they can be much harder to correct. Some trainers will say harnesses are for show (looks not arena) or working, but poor for control. I would agree with this, so a collar and lead is important as soon as it gets out and about. Practising in the home is not a bad thing either. Familiarising with the collar and lead.

Grooming, again, start now, so it becomes the norm, as with bathing. By 8 weeks they can already starting to show a dislike to it, so again, familiarise him early on.

Socialising, due to the nature of the male Mal, its good to get him familiar with any dogs he might meet day to day or even from time to time. Especially males. Do of course make sure you get a kennel cough vaccination too as its not usually included in the regular jabs. Microchip him (biochip) too.

OK thats enough of the lecture

Now for some fun

YouTube - Tuvaaq 7 months, still talking
Awww

Zooms

Good post Snazy.

Regards the Barf, it is very complex. It's not just a case of feeding bones and raw meat. You need to know the ratio, which bones are the most beneficial, which supplements, which oils etc, it's a lot to consider and not something to be taken lightly.

Regards the kennel cough, that is something I personally don't do anymore. Kennel cough is the same as the common cold. There are so many strains, you can catch 4 different strains in a year, like my boy did a few years back even though he'd had the vaccination from one strain. Also the nasal spray has been linked to fits and other problems, so not something I bother with as it's easily cured anyway.

Totally agree with the training and socialising.

Diesel

I got the pics!!!

You have a new babysitting offer! I will pay Ł6.50 an hour! Gorgeous; love him with all that you have till he dies.

D

Snazy

Cheers Zooms.
Main reason I say about kennel cough is the state poor lil Tuvaaq got into when he caught it from a friends dog. He was still young and got very uncomfortable with it

Plus if you ever go away or need to kennel the dog, they normally wont take the dog without proof if vaccination.
Just a precaution and all that

Snazy

Just a quick post to put the thread back on track.

7 months old and what a handsome devil he is...

RMA26

Stunning mate!

Leslie

He certainly does look good.

Only another 900 odd posts and you will catch up with PSL Snazy!

Les

Devildog

Andy,

I totally agree with you about breeding eithics, breed history and the rest, however what your cut n paste from the rescue site suggests to me is that here is a Huskymute who came from spotless kennels, with plenty of space to run and play,is in excellent condition, is a sweet girl and would make a great pet.


Hardly a "horror" story.

Incidentally, aside from the fact that she was in a rescue centre pretty much the story of our now 8 year old Rottie bitch.

Except that she was show trained as a pup and had become sadly quite neurotic (due, it is suspected, to a rival breeder giving her one hell of a fright outside of the sight of her original owners) and hence they had no intention of breeding her.

And yet "our" breeders are established and well respected (and are now good friends)

Happy to say that with time, effort and training she overcame her neurosos
and is a great example of her kind.

On the plus side, the extracts from the rescue site bode well for the poster who bought one of these dogs (although long term health problems can never be known at early stages.)

Here's hoping B road blaster's dog turns out to be a healthy and happy dog.

ps - whilst showing is ultimately the only way to preserve breed standards and quality, its something I will never go back to. In fighting, bitchness and subversive behavoir is common place when showing these days. The arrogance of the Kennel Club knows no limits.

It aslo has to be said that you should never believe all that you read on web forums, especially where agendas are not all that they seem.

PPS - for the record, anyone who breeds indiscriminately and purely for profit should be taken aside and shot, IMO

Devildog

Michael, he's looking great

Snazy

Cheers DD

Totally agree with the last bit too *bang!

Les, im 10,000 behind you, let alone PSL lol. Or do you mean about my dog alone ?

I have an excuse for this thread, it went off topic

Zooms

With all due respect, it matters little if a dog is kept in a spotless kennel with a large run to run in, if the same dog, is never socialised with people, is scared of anything that moves, has been bred from when still a pup herself, is so scared of human interaction that you cant get close enough to put a collar on, and is bred almost to death with no health testing ! THAT is the horror of it all, not the 'conditions' the dogs are kept in

Puppy farmers aren't stupid. Their bitches have to be in good condition or they dont produce puppies !

I'm sorry, but you dont know these kennels, it's nothing alike at all. These breeders dump ex breeding dogs at various rescue centres on a monthly basis ! When they adamantly state that they keep their older dogs for retirement or rehome them to suitable homes !!!"!!!

Actually that same Rescue site 'used' to name and shame that very breeder and name all the dogs they dumped there and the write ups used to be very different, and instead of what appears now : "weet girl from spotless kennels, never bred from" they used to say "Ex puppy farmed dog, bred too much for her young age, came from large known kennel, had no socialisation or human interaction and deserves better than her life up until now" !!!

That breeder then threatened the rescue saying they would dump the dogs or 'dispose' of them, instead of taking them to the rescue, if the Rescue kept on shaming them, hence now their dogs get a 'rose tinted' write up of their origins because the rescue would rather the dogs came to them !

I know alot about the Sibe world and because of them, the Husky x Malamute world, and they are the bottom of the barrel !

In my experience, (and I've had alot with dogs from that kennels) it's doubtful.

Absolutely, but when the majority has one view and only a single kennel has their own view, the majority can't all be wrong !

So if the above kennel doesn't breed indiscriminately and for profit, WHY do they breed I wonder ? They don't work their dogs, show their dogs or leave the property with their dogs, so you make up your own mind !

Devildog

Zooms, I'm not disagreeing here - merely pointing out that what Andy posted wasn't really showing that breeder in a bad light. Sorry if that wasn't
clear.

Sti_Prodrive

Man, i would love to have one of these with open arms !

Snazy

lol one going spare here right now, come and get him
(needs a walk really and im being lazy)

DD well said mate, thats how I read it too.
Zooms, i know your passionate, but dont bite every hand

Snazy

The lil fella has just been out trying out his new back pack.
Lightens my load considerably lol.

Nice and bright, easy to see, and lots of storage. Might go shopping later lol

ellie_w

i have got to get me one of those for shawnee

Snazy

Definatly, you would not believe how different he becomes with it on.
How is she anyway hun? more info more pics needed

PS, search Ebay for "dog backpack" they come up for about Ł19

Also now the car is all sorted for him, its time to hit the big trails. Thinking of doing a weekend in Snowdonia soon

MikeCardiff

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As we're doing updated pics :



This is our Border Collie Poppy now at 8 months. Has grown from a little ball of fur into a big chunky proper dog.

Has also started getting some show results, currently have about 10 rosettes on the wall from her various wins. Not quite as impressive as her sister from the same litter - she's already qualified for Crufts and beats everyone in the shows she enters.

Think we just got the silliest one from the litter as she's still daft as a brush, but getting a lot better - lots of the judges have commented on how pretty she is though, and say she shows promise.

She has very good breeding, her Father is pretty famous as a show winner in the Border Collie world, and her Mum won loads as well.

Snazy

Blimey thats some good going mate, all the best in the big shows.
Well done on commiting the time etc to the show ring.

Sounds and looks like you're onto a real winner of both pet and show dog

Snazy

As promised to some, now Tuvaaq is back from the dog valet lol, here are a couple of current pictures

Sorry to bore the others, but if you dont want to see more pictures, stop clicking on this thread lol.

Spoon

Is that a wolf, mister?

Snazy

lol well spotted...

We have moved on from that now. In the woods yesterday, my favorite to date...... "ooh look mummy, a horsie"

Lee247

Snazy, he is absolutely beautiful

Snazy

And smells good too
Without his collars on his neck looks much fuller.
Lets wait til he blows his coat now for the next full valet

They loved him at the poochie parlour, and said they have never had a dog that talked so much lol, bless

Spoon

I had a child a few weeks ago tell his mum to come over to me because he said I was the Rock. I look absolutely nothing like him and I'm sure I heard him shout, "Mummy look at that right cóck".