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Old 02 October 2007, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wwp8
i bought too early at £1.82 545 shares on fooking friday ,

should have waited until the weekend,
but i'm keeping them until near xmas to see what happens, i truely don't think its showing its worth,
i'll be grateful if it hits £3,
I wonder if NRK will been in existence by xmas.
Old 02 October 2007, 10:56 AM
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The point about NRK is that they own lots of mortgages. Those mortgages will not be paid off by Christmas. Large amounts of them will be tied in products with a few years to run before people will/could jump ship.

Those loans are very valuable, especially if they were to be purchased at a discount by another company. I just cannot see NRK collapsing, being taken over yes, but I don't see a collapse. Mind you, do you really want to risk your money on what I think
Old 02 October 2007, 11:09 AM
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if they have lots of mortgages, wouldn't someone would think it would be profitable to takeover, and run it properly
Old 02 October 2007, 11:19 AM
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No because most customers of NRK on fixed rate will move to another lender once their fixed rate period runs out.
Old 02 October 2007, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by billythekid
No because most customers of NRK on fixed rate will move to another lender once their fixed rate period runs out.
no they wont - most will re-new with NR because switching is a hassle, complicated and in many cases impossible (esp if they got a high income multiple from NR in the first place)
Old 02 October 2007, 11:46 AM
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And I suspect their customer savings portfolio will gradually diminish which will mean they have to use more short term loans to fund mortgage business expansion and I doubt if they are flavour of the month in the city.

I'd put my money on a takeover with the new owners burying the name and merging into their existing business.

But I have to say that I know sod all about these things - about as much perhaps as the SN resident £1000 per day IFAs who were saying that the shares would just pop up again and what a great buy and what did us mere mortals know dl
Old 02 October 2007, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by The Snug Rhino
no they wont - most will re-new with NR because switching is a hassle, complicated and in many cases impossible (esp if they got a high income multiple from NR in the first place)
BUT, from what I understand no firm offer has yet to be made for the business.

Hence the fall from 180 to 130 in the last 2 days as the take over bids have dried up.
Old 02 October 2007, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Sticking your life savings on NRK would be a gamble. Investing a small amount to add to your basket would, in my opinion, be taking a considered risk. The risk is even more viable if one's re-investing a sharply realised return, as the initial capital is secure.

Anyway, I'm off to the bookies.
Agreed, but Im not off to the bookies
Old 03 October 2007, 03:58 PM
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So,flurry of excitement with this potential buyer.Shares shot up this morning....and have stayed at £1.50

Don't think any fortunes to be made here at all
Old 03 October 2007, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Snug Rhino
no they wont - most will re-new with NR because switching is a hassle, complicated and in many cases impossible (esp if they got a high income multiple from NR in the first place)
How true - bought in London with a very high income multiple (well how else do you get a 2 bed flat earning "only" 6 X £50k pa back then...). Totally screwed society! Glad it bit them on the **** (even though I am still with them, and hope they lose my file). My dad used to frown at people with cars on HP ffs - if you cant afford it, etc...

IF PEOPLE CANT SENSIBLY AFFORD A MORTGAGE THEN THEY SHOULDNT BE GIVEN THEM - THEN WATCH OUR ABSURD HOUSE PRICES DROP.

D
Old 04 October 2007, 10:26 AM
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NR shares are up 13% already today, this is on top of 11% or so rise yesterday.

They do look extremely cheap despite the recent troubles. Wouldn't be surprised to see them climb quite a bit higher. The NR name may have been tarnished, but it always amazes me how quickly the public forget things.
Old 04 October 2007, 10:30 AM
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Citigroup have offered to finance a buyout
Old 04 October 2007, 11:51 AM
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I recently bought £5k worth of NR shares and are thinking of getting another load. I bought the shares with a medium to long term outlook, bearing in mind that if they did go under, I could take the hit. Speculate to accumulate
Old 04 October 2007, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
I recently bought £5k worth of NR shares and are thinking of getting another load. I bought the shares with a medium to long term outlook, bearing in mind that if they did go under, I could take the hit. Speculate to accumulate
My sentiments also, bought £500 worth, not a great deal but "If" they see anything like the return before the crash I will be quids in. If not, no big deal.
Old 10 October 2007, 10:14 AM
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lots of movement today..
Old 10 October 2007, 11:14 AM
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They've taking off like a rocket today! Up 25% to almost 260p already

Been going up for the last few days - anyone would bought at 150p will probably more than trebble their money IMO
Old 10 October 2007, 11:38 AM
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Indeed, a few people will make a LOT of money today!

I bought a few but still need them to go up a bit more before I can break out the champagne (ok Asti) and blow my earnings on a pizza..
Old 10 October 2007, 12:34 PM
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1 of the lads here has 1500 shares.


I think I'll just about afford a pizza of my investment at teh mo.
Old 10 October 2007, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by billythekid
Indeed, a few people will make a LOT of money today!..
271p ......... come to daddy!!

Was a terrifying ride - but it's looking great now
Old 10 October 2007, 01:10 PM
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Dont hang on too long though, short selling at the moment. Although I think my F5 key will be worn out by the end of the day
Old 10 October 2007, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
271p ......... come to daddy!!

Was a terrifying ride - but it's looking great now
either way pete nobody believes you either way now, so you're only posting for yourself. Good luck to you if you're onto a nice earner
Old 10 October 2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
either way pete nobody believes you either way now, so you're only posting for yourself. Good luck to you if you're onto a nice earner
That's quite an amazing trick you pulled there - speaking for 'everbody'

Could you list who 'everbody' is??

Good luck to you, too, though ... clean up
Old 10 October 2007, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Could you list who 'everbody' is??
1. STi wanna Subaru
2. TopBanana
Old 10 October 2007, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
That's quite an amazing trick you pulled there - speaking for 'everbody'

Could you list who 'everbody' is??

Good luck to you, too, though ... clean up
everybody I presume you mean

I was elected spokesperson while you were banned
Old 10 October 2007, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
I was elected spokesperson while you were banned
Oh, I see ...... but shouldn't that be 'spokeswoman' - as I can believe you represent the old women on here
Old 10 October 2007, 01:37 PM
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Hey Pete - welcome back...

I bought 4k at £3.05, should have waited really, and last week was going to sell my shares, glad I didnt. Looking like I may get my money back. Dipped in today for 2k at £2.35 and sold at £2.52.....
My other half is a money trader, even she said I was a prat and in for a rocky ride......

J
Old 10 October 2007, 01:38 PM
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I bought eleventy squillion at 135 as well Pete.

[...wonder what two times eleventy squillion is called]
Old 10 October 2007, 03:08 PM
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Well I accept I haven't got a clue.

Still miffed thinking they would not have survived without the B of E and the Government, obviously petrified someone would see this economy for what it is.

Good luck to those who might make something.I still hope citibank pull out and the vultures get them.
Old 10 October 2007, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lozgti
Still miffed thinking they would not have survived without the B of E and the Government, obviously petrified someone would see this economy for what it is.
"The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent"
- Keynes
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