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Old 06 October 2007, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
In a decent kennel with some form of heating or at least decent wind shelter (for the really cold nights) won't be a problem at all. All my GSD's over the years have much preferred to be outside 24 hours a day.

I gave them free reign to roam the grounds and go in their kennel block when they like. It is a block built 20ft x 6ft kennel, with divided bed sections for even more protection, with heating, lighting etc.

The two I have now are indoors more but still love to be outdoors most of the day when they're not with me in the motor.
Sounds good mate, the one I have bought is 10'x6' but obviously as the arrangement gets sorted out, maybe a block one would be a good idea.
If I didnt feel that we could keep it at a reasonable temp for the day/evening, naturally we would bring him in, but the plan is to sort all that before the cold weather really moves in.

Its nice to see another person supporting keeping them outside, its only natural after all

Would be interested in seeing a pic of the housing arrangements (kennels) if you have one your happy to share
Open to new ideas and all
Old 08 October 2007, 11:01 AM
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Sorry to hear that Pimmo, but your doing the right thing.
Tuvaaq had a bout of the farts again last night.... Again after my sister had been round, and I had been out. So im convinced she has given him something.

Families can really annoy the hell out of you at times eh. Especially when they dont even live there!

Well Pimmo, let us know how you get on at the vets. Main thing is she is on form just not very solid, so hopefully it is just a diet thing
Old 08 October 2007, 01:38 PM
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You really should have taken Spoons advice, pimmo. I hope she is ok
Old 08 October 2007, 01:53 PM
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Any ideas what your gonna change the diet to yet ?
I would happily recommend AG all day long.

Great news that she is well though hope the change works.
Old 08 October 2007, 02:11 PM
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My dog gets a mixture of dried complete food and dog meat, she has a raw egg every second morning, if she has anything like steak or chicken she has severe skitters, I think she's just not used to it as she was brought up on a farm.
Old 08 October 2007, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
and done what ? The same as my Breeder suggested ? Funny that I did.

Vet said its the diet.. the Raw chicken is not good for a dog.

Shes been given an injection and tablets to take. Also some sensitive puppy food for a week, then she goes back the vet.

Vet said she is good weight very bright eyed and generally a happy looking dog.

She said shes seens an increase in "in the know" breeders giving their dogs the Raw meat and its a bad thing !

Either way I tried the raw meat.. didnt do the dog any good. Now I'm moving over to the Vet opinion.

Good news though ! Shes healthy with a change of diet required

No need to get stroppy

As long as the dog is ok, good. I am just saying, when it comes to dogs, especially GSD. I would take everything Spoon says, as word. If you have seen his dogs, you will know what I mean.
Old 08 October 2007, 03:32 PM
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Fancy giving a pup RAW meat ...... the bacteria that's in raw chicken.....
Old 08 October 2007, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
That was my thoughts too ! but they told me too ! Spoon included.
So to get this right.... you actually listened to SPOON

Seriously, for an animal to be able to eat raw meat its parents MUST have also been feed raw meat, and so on... as they must have built up their immune system to resist the bacteria associated with it (and passed this to the pup).

You'll find that a dry food will sort him out, and probably a few antibiotics... and once he's stabilised slowly introduce him back to cooked/boiled and dry foods

Avoid anything with brittle bones, such as lamb, as these splinter and lodge in the throat and bowels.. become infected and require major surgery to remove.
Old 08 October 2007, 04:52 PM
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Pimmo I am another to recommend Arden Grange, hardened my pups stools (were slightly sloppy on vet recommended stuff) Good thing is its all natural as well with no artifical stuff
Old 08 October 2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
Pimmo I am another to recommend Arden Grange, hardened my pups stools (were slightly sloppy on vet recommended stuff) Good thing is its all natural as well with no artifical stuff


Brings a new meaning to dropping a log. Almost a pleasure cleaning up after my lil lad now. Good bless pooper scoopers lol
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my dog never poops outside on walks, she waits until we get back then she runs straight into the garden and dops her guts!
Old 08 October 2007, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
my dog never poops outside on walks, she waits until we get back then she runs straight into the garden and dops her guts!
Snap, mine doesn't even pee when out for a walk, grass now looks like it's been napalmed
Old 08 October 2007, 05:17 PM
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lol im just working on the house training thing now. 9 weeks old. Still having accidents, but a lot better.

Stubborn little sod though. Annoying when they are in the garden for an hour, come inside.... and dump lol
Old 08 October 2007, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000

Shes not happy about a lack of treats now. We had been treating her when training and now she has a wee and cant understand where her treat is poor thing, have to be cruel to be kind.

Cheers

lol Tuvaaq is going through the same, following his recent accidents I have stopped the treats until the opportunity is right to show its clearly a reward... He still comes diving in the house and sits by his crate waiting for a treat..... bless
Old 08 October 2007, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Tara just came in from the garden with a rotten chicken wing covered in soil !

WTF, she'd hidden the ******* thing !

You'd think I never feed her !
Haha now thats cunning. Tuv tends to go digging for slugs snails and worms !! Go figure!
Straight after dinner he will go hunting.
Old 08 October 2007, 07:12 PM
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Hehe he dont seem too afraid of much at the moment, although bravery can be troublesome as he was trying to catch a wasp in his mouth yesterday.

Can always tell when he has found something he wants to try and eat as he darts in the house.

His technique for getting snails out of their shells is something to be witnessed though
Old 08 October 2007, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
That was my thoughts too ! but they told me too ! Spoon included.
Pimmo, you're a cheeky little ****, tell me where I told YOU to feed your puppy raw chicken. If you're going to try and slate me here then get your facts right.



It's clear you haven't listened or even read what I've said. A barf diet is not for the novice.



You have done nothing correct from day one, that is clear to anybody with GSD knowledge.
Old 08 October 2007, 09:28 PM
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It's clear for anybody to read who the **** is here. You said you'd take the breeders advice over mine and now you're putting me in the same category as the breeder. That's clear, well done.
Old 08 October 2007, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Jesus, I'm not calling you a ****...

WTF is wrong with you ?
Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Now if you would kindly **** off and stop replying to my posts if your going to be a ****.


You can't even read your own posts so what chance have you got?
Old 08 October 2007, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
sigh... you said Raw meat is an option thats what I meant... I was using you as an example of someone I thought people on this forum agreed with.
Raw is an option for the EXPERIENCED. My puppy was raised on raw BUT with the other essential ingredients necessary. Plus you have to be very careful with bacteria, as the sarcastic but largely stupid DCI has pointed out.
Old 08 October 2007, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Its annoying me now people telling me what to do about the dog, everyone knows best. My dad has had 9 German Shephards over the years and they all lived past 13 ! Which is very old for such a big dog !

I am very grateful for advice.. Spoons especially.. but if you dont like me not taking your advice.. dont give it... at the end of the day I will decided what I think is best for the dog based on her.

No stroppyness meant

My only advice to you, was to listen to Spoon. As you have chosen to ignore my advice, get on with it. I wish your puppy well, she's a beauty
Old 08 October 2007, 10:24 PM
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oh dear, pimmo.
Old 08 October 2007, 10:29 PM
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You know what you Win..

All I care about is the well being of my dog and thanks to my Vet shes ok.

I'll delete all my posts from this thread apart from this one and Spoon and he/she can consider this a win for "forum dog lovers" everywhere.
Old 08 October 2007, 10:31 PM
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pimmo, I am not interested anymore. You are getting personal and a tad nasty. Calling Spoon a tw@t, me stupid. It's not on, really.
Has it never occured to you, we might just want the best for the puppy. Spoon has the best knowledge of anyone I know, about GSD. I would trust anything he said, above any vet or breeder.
All the best and enjoy your dog
Old 08 October 2007, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Plus you have to be very careful with bacteria, as the sarcastic but largely stupid DCI has pointed out.
Who are you calling large!!
Old 08 October 2007, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Who are you calling large!!
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