Any striking Post Office employees on here today?
05 October 2007, 10:35 AM
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All I want is the post to be put through the door before 7.30.
Just seems that this is what used to happen years ago and everyone was happy.
Now we have progressed I feel the same way about Royal Mail as I do about Indian call centres
Just seems that this is what used to happen years ago and everyone was happy.
Now we have progressed I feel the same way about Royal Mail as I do about Indian call centres
05 October 2007, 10:37 AM
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Hmm bliss ! had a nice lay in today and looking farward to the next 4 days off
.And to all the posters complaining and slagging us off, Dont worry your butt plugs and gimp masks will arrive on wednesday
.And to all the posters complaining and slagging us off, Dont worry your butt plugs and gimp masks will arrive on wednesday
05 October 2007, 10:41 AM
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THank you for that.
Some people do think we are only there to deliver their post and that we should be there at 9am on the dot. but as we dont get out of the office (in our area) till 9.30ish after sorting the post then it is hard to keep everyone happy. and someone has to be last.
Some people do think we are only there to deliver their post and that we should be there at 9am on the dot. but as we dont get out of the office (in our area) till 9.30ish after sorting the post then it is hard to keep everyone happy. and someone has to be last.
MORE STAFF, DOING LESS HOURS.....................
05 October 2007, 10:52 AM
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Wouldnt work im afraid, what we need is more staff doing the same hours and also making the deliveries shorter. They currently take between 3-4 hours to complete so we would have to be delivering by 6am to get the mail delivered at a reasonable time - and this just isnt going to happen 
The definitive answer to Royal Mails problems in my opinion is to give us a level playing field as mentioned in a previous post.We need to stop doing our competitors work for them and make them take it themselves.I am 100% certain that we would bulldoze all competition which would leave us to deliver your mail and us only, thus in turn would give you back the Royal Mail that you used to have, a company that took pride in delivering a quality affordable service.
The definitive answer to Royal Mails problems in my opinion is to give us a level playing field as mentioned in a previous post.We need to stop doing our competitors work for them and make them take it themselves.I am 100% certain that we would bulldoze all competition which would leave us to deliver your mail and us only, thus in turn would give you back the Royal Mail that you used to have, a company that took pride in delivering a quality affordable service.
05 October 2007, 11:22 AM
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that says to me you want the same pay and less work 
i must have missed something here
say you have 1 man covering a 40mile square patch, and for arguments sake it takes him 4 hours to sort his stuff and get the delivered
you are telling me that employing 2 people doing 20 miles and 2 hours each wont get the mail delivered faster ????
what about 4 people covering 10 miles and only taking 1 hour each, that wont be faster either?>?
my local postmaster said this to me!! >> the whole business needs shook from the ground upwards and reformed into something that actually works, rather then the oldskool dinosaurs hanging in and striking when changes need to happen.
i must have missed something here
say you have 1 man covering a 40mile square patch, and for arguments sake it takes him 4 hours to sort his stuff and get the delivered
you are telling me that employing 2 people doing 20 miles and 2 hours each wont get the mail delivered faster ????
what about 4 people covering 10 miles and only taking 1 hour each, that wont be faster either?>?
my local postmaster said this to me!! >> the whole business needs shook from the ground upwards and reformed into something that actually works, rather then the oldskool dinosaurs hanging in and striking when changes need to happen.
05 October 2007, 11:32 AM
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05 October 2007, 11:35 AM
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I have worked in the post office and there are many postal workers that simply would not survive outside of Royal Mail. I am not saying they are lazy but just set in their ways.
Last time I looked Royal Mail/Consignia/whoever they are now. Do not have a registered charity no. on their letterhead so if cuts need to be made to stay afloat they need to be made.
Ask any postal worker if they had their own company and it was making a loss would carry on throwing good money after bad or change things?
Ultimately if you do not like what your employer is doing get out and find something else. If you dont want to, stay and take the rough with the smooth. And if you are feeling really adventurous start on your own doing something you enjoy.
The more they strike the more damage they would do. The ones i feel sorry for are the members of staff who want to work but are almost blackmailed into striking because their work colleagues would cut them out if they cross the picket line.
Last time I looked Royal Mail/Consignia/whoever they are now. Do not have a registered charity no. on their letterhead so if cuts need to be made to stay afloat they need to be made.
Ask any postal worker if they had their own company and it was making a loss would carry on throwing good money after bad or change things?
Ultimately if you do not like what your employer is doing get out and find something else. If you dont want to, stay and take the rough with the smooth. And if you are feeling really adventurous start on your own doing something you enjoy.
The more they strike the more damage they would do. The ones i feel sorry for are the members of staff who want to work but are almost blackmailed into striking because their work colleagues would cut them out if they cross the picket line.
05 October 2007, 11:38 AM
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Probably not ok, but in the "real world" it happens all the time. Just ask any teacher, nurse, desk jockey, computer programmer. It happens to me a lot, but I don't see the need to strike every time it happens. I don't see why postal workers should be any different...
05 October 2007, 11:45 AM
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i give a perfectly good solution to the problem and its shot down because a postie thinks it wont work.
when all the non posties can see that it would work? (unless said postie can prove it wouldn't, which so far he hasn't)
this proves that the system is set in the dark ages!!
05 October 2007, 11:48 AM
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Probably not ok, but in the "real world" it happens all the time. Just ask any teacher, nurse, desk jockey, computer programmer. It happens to me a lot, but I don't see the need to strike every time it happens. I don't see why postal workers should be any different...
05 October 2007, 11:52 AM
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my point is, people have said that they want the mail earlier, somebody posted that "somebody has to be last"
i give a perfectly good solution to the problem and its shot down because a postie thinks it wont work.
when all the non posties can see that it would work? (unless said postie can prove it wouldn't, which so far he hasn't)
this proves that the system is set in the dark ages!!
i give a perfectly good solution to the problem and its shot down because a postie thinks it wont work.
when all the non posties can see that it would work? (unless said postie can prove it wouldn't, which so far he hasn't)
this proves that the system is set in the dark ages!!
So - just to get it straight.
You, with no experience whatsoever of the postal service come up with a solution to a problem.
The postal workers with years of experience of working in the postal service tell you your idea won't work.
Therefore, rather than conceed that you aren't speaking from a position with any knowledge of the intricacies of the problem, the postal workers simply must be working a system set in the dark ages.
Brilliant.
05 October 2007, 11:55 AM
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So - just to get it straight.
You, with no experience whatsoever of the postal service come up with a solution to a problem.
The postal workers with years of experience of working in the postal service tell you your idea won't work.
Therefore, rather than conceed that you aren't speaking from a position with any knowledge of the intricacies of the problem, the postal workers simply must be working a system set in the dark ages.
Brilliant.
You, with no experience whatsoever of the postal service come up with a solution to a problem.
The postal workers with years of experience of working in the postal service tell you your idea won't work.
Therefore, rather than conceed that you aren't speaking from a position with any knowledge of the intricacies of the problem, the postal workers simply must be working a system set in the dark ages.
Brilliant.
maybe they tell me it wont work because they dont want to do it?
can somebody in the postal service prove why my idea will not work???
the system is set in the dark ages, the business has changed, the ebay website has helped change the postal service beyond measure???>>>>..
05 October 2007, 12:17 PM
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and pete, you sound like an "RM fan boy" btw 
now can anybody in the postal service tell me why more staff doing less hours would not get the post deliverd to peoples doors faster in the morning ????
now can anybody in the postal service tell me why more staff doing less hours would not get the post deliverd to peoples doors faster in the morning ????
05 October 2007, 12:20 PM
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05 October 2007, 01:00 PM
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Sticky Mickie's theory -----> Get 2 part timers to do 1 fulltimers working day i.e 4 hours each as opposed to one 8 hour shift.Is this correct Metal mickey? sorry Stickie mickie.
This wouldnt work because if you had any experience in working there you would know that it requires far more time than 4 hours to sort and prep the mail that the part timer would have.They would start work and end up taking half the mail assigned to them due to a too heavy workload.Come to think of it we do have part timers at our place now and its up to us full timers to sort and prep their mail already, it dosent work very well.The best way i can think of is to put a full time postman on the same round and keep him on it.He gets to know the round and his customers thus avoiding mistakes and it taking less time to do due to the postie knowing what he has to do each morning.
On a different note i agree with some of the other posts previous, There is far to many lazy gits at RM who think its their god given right to go as slow as they can and claim vast amounts of overtime at the end of each day
I put it on a scale - one end is the guy who comes in on time every day and works hard to get the job done, never claims overtime and is subsequently leaned on by the management to do extra work for nothing.The other end of the scale is the **** who comes in late every day, dordles round the office all morning doing **** all then goes out on his round in slow motion and claims extra hours every day.
So the result is - The lazy **** does half the work of the grafter, is left alone by management and takes home 20- 40 quid each week extra.
Makes my blood boil it does
This wouldnt work because if you had any experience in working there you would know that it requires far more time than 4 hours to sort and prep the mail that the part timer would have.They would start work and end up taking half the mail assigned to them due to a too heavy workload.Come to think of it we do have part timers at our place now and its up to us full timers to sort and prep their mail already, it dosent work very well.The best way i can think of is to put a full time postman on the same round and keep him on it.He gets to know the round and his customers thus avoiding mistakes and it taking less time to do due to the postie knowing what he has to do each morning.
On a different note i agree with some of the other posts previous, There is far to many lazy gits at RM who think its their god given right to go as slow as they can and claim vast amounts of overtime at the end of each day
I put it on a scale - one end is the guy who comes in on time every day and works hard to get the job done, never claims overtime and is subsequently leaned on by the management to do extra work for nothing.The other end of the scale is the **** who comes in late every day, dordles round the office all morning doing **** all then goes out on his round in slow motion and claims extra hours every day.
So the result is - The lazy **** does half the work of the grafter, is left alone by management and takes home 20- 40 quid each week extra.
Makes my blood boil it does
05 October 2007, 01:46 PM
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Sticky Mickie's theory -----> Get 2 part timers to do 1 fulltimers working day i.e 4 hours each as opposed to one 8 hour shift.Is this correct Metal mickey? sorry Stickie mickie.
This wouldnt work because if you had any experience in working there you would know that it requires far more time than 4 hours to sort and prep the mail that the part timer would have.They would start work and end up taking half the mail assigned to them due to a too heavy workload.Come to think of it we do have part timers at our place now and its up to us full timers to sort and prep their mail already, it dosent work very well.The best way i can think of is to put a full time postman on the same round and keep him on it.He gets to know the round and his customers thus avoiding mistakes and it taking less time to do due to the postie knowing what he has to do each morning.
This wouldnt work because if you had any experience in working there you would know that it requires far more time than 4 hours to sort and prep the mail that the part timer would have.They would start work and end up taking half the mail assigned to them due to a too heavy workload.Come to think of it we do have part timers at our place now and its up to us full timers to sort and prep their mail already, it dosent work very well.The best way i can think of is to put a full time postman on the same round and keep him on it.He gets to know the round and his customers thus avoiding mistakes and it taking less time to do due to the postie knowing what he has to do each morning.
and you cant prep in half the time because?????
after all they are doing half the work, so why would the prep take the same amount of time??
sounds like the biggest lazy **** excuse i have ever heard
2 men cant prep in half the time because they "just cant"
05 October 2007, 01:57 PM
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i`m bored at work
and i know i`m right, when nissans factory needs to increase the line speed to get the cars out faster, more men are brought in and the job per car is dropped down, but this wouldnt work with royal mail because its still based in the dark ages
and i know i`m right, when nissans factory needs to increase the line speed to get the cars out faster, more men are brought in and the job per car is dropped down, but this wouldnt work with royal mail because its still based in the dark ages
05 October 2007, 02:18 PM
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If I have a choice I will not use Royal Mail even if it costs more.
I always seem to have a problem when using royal mail.
Over 50% of my deliveries from play.com have gone missing this year, never happended before.
Workers need to wake up and realise they are a not some nationalised institution but a private compay providing a service. They have lost Amazon and from what I've been told play will are looking at alternatives.
Royal Mail is a shambles at the moment and only surviving because of the lack of a true alternative.
Cheers
Lee
I always seem to have a problem when using royal mail.
Over 50% of my deliveries from play.com have gone missing this year, never happended before.
Workers need to wake up and realise they are a not some nationalised institution but a private compay providing a service. They have lost Amazon and from what I've been told play will are looking at alternatives.
Royal Mail is a shambles at the moment and only surviving because of the lack of a true alternative.
Cheers
Lee
05 October 2007, 02:35 PM
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Sack the lot of them and hire some Polish people.
The vast majority are hard working and won't moan/strike.
Might actually have a chance of getting the mail before 2 or 3 pm then too.
If you don't like the job/conditions/pay, then quit, and find something you are happy with. Not rocket science.
I've also just opened an account with someone this morning for all my daily ebay stuff.
Sick to death of **** going missing, being really delayed, damaged, and the recent icing on the cake- having a piece of artwork go missing via airsure, and being given only 30% of its value back- despite declaring its full value- after waiting 5 months
The vast majority are hard working and won't moan/strike.
Might actually have a chance of getting the mail before 2 or 3 pm then too.
If you don't like the job/conditions/pay, then quit, and find something you are happy with. Not rocket science.
I've also just opened an account with someone this morning for all my daily ebay stuff.
Sick to death of **** going missing, being really delayed, damaged, and the recent icing on the cake- having a piece of artwork go missing via airsure, and being given only 30% of its value back- despite declaring its full value- after waiting 5 months
05 October 2007, 03:27 PM
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Ok heres another reason why your ****** idea wont work. You say double the workforce and half the hours for a kick off just about every office wouldnt be able to fit double the workforce and delivery frames etc so all the offices would have to be doubled in size, yes that sounds like a great cost cutting idea duh go back to your hole troll
what strike...?
05 October 2007, 03:37 PM
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Yes i pay people to do the work for me, what a result, i know that if it takes 1 lad 4 hours to do a job i can expect 2 lads to do the job in 2 hours.
i do actually know what i`m talking about you know, you might not understand if you are just a small cog in somebody else's machine
the offices wouldn't handle twice the work force?
righty ohh
when the nissan suppliers all stop for lunch, can the canteen staff (about 8) cater for hundreds and hundreds of people all at once?
of course they can, things get staggered, it works, i have seen it COUNTLESS times in practise, learn some kaizen/JIT, maybe go on a few courses (just like i did LOL) and come back when you have a simple grasp of how things can run like clockwork with the minimum of waste (weather this is man power or not)
the glorified paperboy society might wake up and smell the coffee one day
until then, keep striking and losing the battle
05 October 2007, 03:43 PM
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Sack the lot of them and hire some Polish people.
The vast majority are hard working and won't moan/strike.
Might actually have a chance of getting the mail before 2 or 3 pm then too.
If you don't like the job/conditions/pay, then quit, and find something you are happy with. Not rocket science.
I've also just opened an account with someone this morning for all my daily ebay stuff.
Sick to death of **** going missing, being really delayed, damaged, and the recent icing on the cake- having a piece of artwork go missing via airsure, and being given only 30% of its value back- despite declaring its full value- after waiting 5 months
The vast majority are hard working and won't moan/strike.
Might actually have a chance of getting the mail before 2 or 3 pm then too.
If you don't like the job/conditions/pay, then quit, and find something you are happy with. Not rocket science.
I've also just opened an account with someone this morning for all my daily ebay stuff.
Sick to death of **** going missing, being really delayed, damaged, and the recent icing on the cake- having a piece of artwork go missing via airsure, and being given only 30% of its value back- despite declaring its full value- after waiting 5 months
The recent strike vote had an over 90% yes vote so should we all go and find another job? dont be ridicoulous
If your sending valuable items out in the post then theres a service calle "specil delivery" where your items are fully insured upto around £1500 so i suggest you use that service not rocket science is it llama
05 October 2007, 03:47 PM
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that's the perks of running your own business (that actually makes me money lol) and employing people to do the work for you
Yes i pay people to do the work for me, what a result, i know that if it takes 1 lad 4 hours to do a job i can expect 2 lads to do the job in 2 hours.
i do actually know what i`m talking about you know, you might not understand if you are just a small cog in somebody else's machine
the offices wouldn't handle twice the work force?
righty ohh
when the nissan suppliers all stop for lunch, can the canteen staff (about 8) cater for hundreds and hundreds of people all at once?
of course they can, things get staggered, it works, i have seen it COUNTLESS times in practise, learn some kaizen/JIT, maybe go on a few courses (just like i did LOL) and come back when you have a simple grasp of how things can run like clockwork with the minimum of waste (weather this is man power or not)
the glorified paperboy society might wake up and smell the coffee one day
until then, keep striking and losing the battle
Yes i pay people to do the work for me, what a result, i know that if it takes 1 lad 4 hours to do a job i can expect 2 lads to do the job in 2 hours.
i do actually know what i`m talking about you know, you might not understand if you are just a small cog in somebody else's machine
the offices wouldn't handle twice the work force?
righty ohh
when the nissan suppliers all stop for lunch, can the canteen staff (about 8) cater for hundreds and hundreds of people all at once?
of course they can, things get staggered, it works, i have seen it COUNTLESS times in practise, learn some kaizen/JIT, maybe go on a few courses (just like i did LOL) and come back when you have a simple grasp of how things can run like clockwork with the minimum of waste (weather this is man power or not)
the glorified paperboy society might wake up and smell the coffee one day
until then, keep striking and losing the battle
05 October 2007, 04:00 PM
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You don't sign up to be a baggage handler (another load of f*ckwits who like to strike
) and then moan about lifting stuff.If you arent willing to do the job- and most of you clearly aren't- as you are all sat around at home today striking, then get someone in who will so.
If they happen to be from overseas, then so be it.
If your sending valuable items out in the post then theres a service calle "specil delivery" where your items are fully insured upto around £1500 so i suggest you use that service not rocket science is it llama
It was sent international you tit- via Airsure ( as I posted above). Special delivery isn't available abroad...or didn't they teach you that?Airsure is supposedly the most secure international service.
Declared value when posting and provided evidence of it when claiming- not that they really cared...
And it is spelt 'special' not specil.
05 October 2007, 04:09 PM
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this is sticky on one of the staffs logins
well done in issuing an infraction, i held off from giving you one for calling me a pratt, because im not so petty, but did you know that normal members can infract as well ?
well played!
well done in issuing an infraction, i held off from giving you one for calling me a pratt, because im not so petty, but did you know that normal members can infract as well ?
well played!
