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Old 19 October 2007, 03:35 PM
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do you have nay thoughts on that im 17 just bought my first scoob so give me a chance or is it you thought i was a muslim so you wouldnt


Did you include any sentences like this one in your GCSE exam?
Old 19 October 2007, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Dislike not despise Les, I think anybody with a religious belief is blind to the world and universe we live in and and are fools to themselves. We've covered all this before though in old threads.
Well I dont want to go into all that again either of course. I think however that you are being less than fair in some respects. Not all religious believers are so manic and blind to what goes on in the world. As Stilover says, we do all have the choice what to believe however, at least we have so far anyway and I hope that will never change.

I respect your right to believe what you want, and I would never run you down for that either.

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Old 19 October 2007, 04:02 PM
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sorry but all i keep thinking about when i read this is
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Old 19 October 2007, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
again you just cant help thinking incorrectly FYI i got an A Star in english GCSE got the certificate to prove it am at work and switching from this screen to others which i do not think you would have a clue about. once again your wrong i did pay attention in my english classes.
how many times do you have to think wrong what a waste of my time a waste of technology communicating with you so il leave the bigger man and let you carry on being childish.
Thank you
Imi. J (the guy you thought was a muslim) WRONG!!!!!!


An A star in English! You can barely string a sentence together, I have highlighted your errors for you! I didn't bother highlighting all the commas and full stops that you missed out, as this would have taken too long.



Rule 1 of Scoobynet. Never brag about your English skills.

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Old 19 October 2007, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
That's one really good thing about living in a place like Britain. You are free to chose if you believe in God or not. Muslims seem to have no choice in whether they belive in their religion. It's preached to them as soon as they can understand language.

I think that entirely depends on your upbringing. Certainly not so long ago in this country, children were brought up with Christian teachings at the very heart of thier education.

I mean, if you have a religious family, be it Christian , Catcholic whatever, then the likelyhood is that any children are going to be brought up with that religion. In that respect its no different to Islam or any other religion.

Of course the fact that Britian is now largely a secular society, means that this sort of thing isn't as widespread as it used to be.
Old 19 October 2007, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover


Rule 1 of Scoobynet. Never brag about your English skills.

Brilliant.
Ahhh the English Language police on the scene again.

Why ohh why,does a Argument always come down to......."Can't string a sentence together" shout.

Is it a case of 'Im loosing the argument here,better pick on something else'
Old 19 October 2007, 05:10 PM
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Sorry STi,included the wrong quote there.
Old 19 October 2007, 05:20 PM
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No, it's more a case of someone boasting that they got an A star at English when they are barely literate.
Old 19 October 2007, 05:22 PM
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In fact, this has to be my favorite S/N quote of the week!


"once again your wrong i did pay attention in my english classes."


The youth of today was never summed up quite so perfectly!
Old 19 October 2007, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
I think thats the main reason that they havent joined yet! Muslims dont intergrate well with Western society, so Turkey joining the EU cannot be a good move.
It's because of their human rights record!
Old 19 October 2007, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Don't encourage him. He only seems to post when a thread includes the words "Muslim".

Do I hate Muslims? Yes
Why? What other religion preaches peace and non-violence, then straps a bomb to themselves and kills people?
Do I hate the fact that Muslims come to this country and then want things there way and not the British way? Yes
Do I hate that the Muslims want there own law in Britain? Yes
Do I hate the fact that they always play the racist card when they don't get their own way? Yes
Am I racist? Maybe, maybe not.

At the end of the day there is a lot of discontent within the British population that Muslims can come to this country, get a free house, free money, want their own way, and in the case of Captain Hook, block off an entire road in London and preach to fellow Muslims at how bad the West is and they should help kill those people that pay Taxes to give them a free house. Not only that but freedom to do a hell of a lot more than they were every allowed to do in their own country.

Simple fact is. If you don't like the British people, British laws etc etc, F*ckoff back to where you came from. See if they give you free houses and money. Thought not.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. This country needs a Hitler in charge for a while. Get rid of all the freeloaders.

I feel better after that.



<<<< Wait for Asifscoob to call me names>>>>>>
Stilover,

Do you want to be called names? I don't understand your point.

Your fear of Muslims is irrational to be honest. You at least have the guts to give your point of view, but my feeling is that you are someone who, if you hate Muslims today, you will hate Hindu's tomorrow, then Methodists the day after that. Basically, whichever way the wind is blowing.

Your reasons for hating are completely inaccurate, I am Muslim and none of those accusations apply to me, or to the hundreds of Muslim, friends, family, or acqaintances that I have.

Please point me in the direction of the free house and money, if it's there for me I promise I will give it to you.

Asif
Old 19 October 2007, 06:48 PM
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i dont understand tho how people can say they "hate muslims" for one how can you tell that by looking at someone if they are muslim,my friends are sikhs and they get a lot of agro from ignorant people who assume as they are of middle eastern appearance they must be muslim and second thats a lot of people to hate because of the actions of a few wackos that to be fair every religion has.
Old 19 October 2007, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
I've no idea what you're babbling on about now, although you're age explains a lot to me.

Perhaps if there were fewer people defending the people who commit terrorist acts, the world would be a better place. I say, if someone murders hundreds of people, then they should be criticised for doing so. If you can't understand why there is a backlash against the Muslim faith, perhaps these atrocities may remind you....

911
London bombings
Madrid bombings
Bali bombings
Pakistan bombings
Daily Iraqi bombings

The list goes on and on.

If it were the Irish doing this, they would be feeling the backlash, but they're not, muslims are.

Paul,

Who is defending acts of terrorism? In my first post for instance I have condemned them outright. I am not saying that your post was directed at me, but where are the facts to back up your statement please?

I am trying desperately to distance myself from these nutcases, whereas others seem equally desparate to lob me in with them!

Peoples' need to understand the issues (or to avoid the issues) means the easy way out is simply to say, "They're all terrorists!"

Asif
Old 19 October 2007, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
No, it's more a case of someone boasting that they got an A star at English when they are barely literate.
A star 'at' English? Shouldn't that be A star in English
Old 19 October 2007, 07:09 PM
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Like any other religion Islam does not preach hatred and violence. Twisted Imams and loons on an ego trip like Abu Hamza do. Like Asif I am continually distancing myself from the abhorrent actions of the minority but at times it's like p!ssing aginst the wind.
Old 19 October 2007, 07:26 PM
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no 74
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul3446
No, it's more a case of someone boasting that they got an A star at English when they are barely literate.

A star 'at' English? Shouldn't that be A star in English

No 66
Ahhh the English Language police on the scene again.

Why ohh why,does a Argument always come down to......."Can't string a sentence together" shout.

Is it a case of 'Im loosing the argument here,better pick on something else'


Oh my dear Paul3446, I think the above says it all.
Thank You

P.S Paul go to night classes, learn how to think properly oh and correctly.
Old 19 October 2007, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
Wait til Turkey joins the EU if you're worried about Muslims coming to Britain, they 71 million of them!

Last time I looked at a map 95% of Turkey was in Asia Why the hell are they letting all these economically inferior economies join the EU anyway. Just seem to be enlarging the EU for the sake of it.
Old 19 October 2007, 07:34 PM
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Was it not a little shiny gold star stuck in his English book?

Couldn't resist, sorry.
Old 19 October 2007, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
Paul,

Who is defending acts of terrorism? In my first post for instance I have condemned them outright. I am not saying that your post was directed at me, but where are the facts to back up your statement please?

I am trying desperately to distance myself from these nutcases, whereas others seem equally desparate to lob me in with them!

Peoples' need to understand the issues (or to avoid the issues) means the easy way out is simply to say, "They're all terrorists!"

Asif
Asif does have a very valid point on that statement!
Old 19 October 2007, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Sherwen
Cant beat tolerence

Pakistan is also a Country where 2 million Christians live in fear of being raped, murdered and tortured. I remember watching an unreported world type documentary where a small Christian Pakistani village was given an ultimatum to convert to Islam. when they refused several girls were kidnapped, raped and murdered. The police never even turned up to investigate.
Old 19 October 2007, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
For example those Muslims wishing to introduce sharia law into the UK just antagonise non muslims who see this as a threat and imposing on exisitng laws in this country and do not need other imposing ther laws on us (our system does need a shake up however), if you want sharia law then go to a country that practises it and stop trying to change the UK as this will lead to more mistrust, more problems and fuel the right wing nutters. This is predominatly a christian country with christian laws and values.
Paul,

What you don't mention of course is that most Muslims are antagonised by the idea of Sharia Law in this country too.

People say (occasionally), "How would they like it if we built Churches in Saudi Arabia?"

Countries like Saudi, or even Pakistan are not free market, libertarian, democracies, like the UK. More importantly, they never claimed to be, or pretend to be. Why should Saudi allow Churches to be built when they are a one religion state, governed as a dictatorship and heavily influenced by nutcases (Wahhabi's)?

Whoever leaves those countries and comes to the West likes the opportunity they have, they like the freedom they have, they like the lifestyle and education options they have for them and their children.

They have left those sorts of places because they wanted to, for a better life. They are not interested in Sharia Law.

Asif
Old 19 October 2007, 08:07 PM
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why is it this is my second infraction in this thread is it because i have said what i have thought. or is it because i cant be ar**d sorting my english out??
Old 19 October 2007, 08:10 PM
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or is it because Paul3446 assumes im a muslim?
Old 19 October 2007, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by blockmonke@fsmail.net
Cant beat tolerence

Pakistan is also a Country where 2 million Christians live in fear of being raped, murdered and tortured. I remember watching an unreported world type documentary where a small Christian Pakistani village was given an ultimatum to convert to Islam. when they refused several girls were kidnapped, raped and murdered. The police never even turned up to investigate.
Of course you get those issues, not shying away from them - it's utterly disgraceful! I can name a number of other very serious issues in Pakistan too, so what? How can the negative aspect of that still be attributed to ALL Pakistani's?

On the other hand though, how you can be so sure that all 2 million Christians are 'living in fear' (ie. all of the time) I find hard to believe.

Did you ask the person who said that all 1.2 billion Muslims in the World are all terrorists?

Asif

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Asif,

Very fair points made, but, why all the fuss within some muslim communities, complaining about Christmas being called Christmas? Then the local council panders to their moaning and decides to call it winterfest or some other sh1te.

This is the sort of thing that turns people against the muslim community.

I'm with the person who said "if you don't like it go back" on this. Yes it's petty, but usually, it's the petty things that get peoples backs up.
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Let those who gave me infractions do the same to Asif scoob for saying whats correct

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Old 19 October 2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ImiJ
or is it because Paul3446 assumes im a muslim?
With a name like Imi, it would be a fair, maybe incorrect, assumption.
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob

Did you ask the person who said that all 1.2 billion Muslims in the World are all terrorists?

Asif
All the recently reported terrorists have been Muslims though. Doesn't mean all Muslims are but, some people will be concerned.
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
Asif,

Very fair points made, but, why all the fuss within some muslim communities, complaining about Christmas being called Christmas? Then the local council panders to their moaning and decides to call it winterfest or some other sh1te.

This is the sort of thing that turns people against the muslim community.

I'm with the person who said "if you don't like it go back" on this. Yes it's petty, but usually, it's the petty things that get peoples backs up.
TBH this is the first time i have heard of this and i live near a very large muslim community and believe me maybe 99% of them would want christmas to be christmas.
oh and i wouldnt get any presents
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
Asif,

Very fair points made, but, why all the fuss within some muslim communities, complaining about Christmas being called Christmas? Then the local council panders to their moaning and decides to call it winterfest or some other sh1te.

This is the sort of thing that turns people against the muslim community.

I'm with the person who said "if you don't like it go back" on this. Yes it's petty, but usually, it's the petty things that get peoples backs up.
Micky,

FWIW, I agree to a certain extent.

My whole family, (Muslim) friends, acquaintances, etc. all work hard, pay their taxes, educate their kids, abide by the law - we are NOT a minority.

Very little makes us more mad than seeing other Muslims 'ruining' the hard work and good reputations we have built up for ourselves (oh, perhaps Non Muslims trying to do that!).

But do you really think that those stories are true? I personally cannot imagine anything more ridiculous than 'cancelling Christmas' stories and things like that.

I will have a bet with you now that we will get one or more of these threads appearing on SN before Xmas this year.

I just don't believe those stories at all and whatever basis of truth they may have come out of, is usually blown out of all proportion by you know who.

Asif


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