WRX_Dazza

about a good as a summary can get

The Snug Rhino

what else is there? the post is one asking for LEGAL advice - if you want to call him a **** then crack on, i agree - but dont get all upset when i answer his question correctly.

FlightMan

But its fun, if you know they are trolls!

MikeCardiff

iTrader: (2)

I'm sure this post is a wind up done by someone bored at work, but in the unlikely event it isnt....

Take your head out of your ****, stop trying to rip off your own family ( twice ! ) and if you want the money for something, earn it yourself.

I bet your father is really proud of you.

davegtt

I like this mans way of thinking

The Snug Rhino

well done......nice to see people are catching up.

The Snug Rhino

no - you should get legal advice to sue whoever did not give you your £25k PLUS LOSSES from the original sale.

ohh....and your a **** (just to keep the sheep happy)

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Agree 100%, the post isn't asking for a whole heap of moralising, it asks for the legal standpoint, Snug has given it and yet you are berating or ignoring him.

davegtt

Well done......nice to see some people are catching up.

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

No you haven't lost your money - you've given your son the money you should have in the first place you diseased old git.

If you still see it as an investment then tied to the first house he owes you less than 25k - remeber the value of an investment may fall as well as rise.

If you cripple his family with this bollocks you can sit there with your money and die a nice lonely death mouldering in your chair because no one, especially your grandkids will give a toss about you. Still if that's what you want.

A$re.

55.

Charliethedog

So I need to sue my own solicitor who did not request an entry on the property deeds to indicate there was a Trust Deed on the house?

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

You need to drop it full stop you tool.

Legally, your son is aware it was promised to him, you already said so and if you do go down this route if i were him i would be suing you for the money that you never handed over plus interest plus costs.

oh and i'd speak to the police about a nice case of theft too.

5t.

The Snug Rhino

I have no idea what the error was at the time but it seems pretty clear that you bought into the first property yet it was sold from under you and you saw no return....that is where your issue lies and ends. What your son did after that seems of no relevance.

To be honest your son sounds like a fool if he let this go on this long....i'm not surprised you want to stitch him up...serves him right for not paying attention to who ons the house he lives him....good luck

SiPie

Pathetic trolling attempt

The Snug Rhino

legally, your talking rubbish. But nice try at entering into the spirit of things

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

Sure? if he has witnesses - and he says in the first post that the son never pursuded him for the cash although he knew it was promised - then isn't there a case to answer that the money was his to start with?

5t.

The Snug Rhino

no


simple example - dad and one son. Dad on his death bed says "i want all my money to go to the milkman". Dad then dies - do you think the laws of intestacy (which distribute the estate when no will exists) should be ignored in favour of the milkman??????

fast bloke

You can't have a spoken will, and last wishes are exactly those. I wish Snug Rhino would give me all his money. Anyone see the flaw in 'wishes'?

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

Well there's the court case about the bingo win at the moment because two of three women at a table claim there was a spoken agreement to split the cash.

Judge has blocked payment of the money and frozen the woman's account so they seem to be taking that verbal contract quite seriously.

5t.

cnj

If I was your son anything I had to give you back would be delivered by big men with baseball bats.

The Snug Rhino

a verbal contract can be binding - a verbal will does not exist.

cant belive people struggle with this...either there IS a will or there ISNT...thats it.

RUDDY

if i was you mate id wait till your older then let your son repay you in old peoples home costs! afterall i doubt they will want you living with them! one day your going to be dependent on your family! he might just let you to rot in you urine filled bed!
you could try selling crack to make quick money! afterall its normally the selfish greedy type that do well in that game!

fast bloke

Spoken agreement or verbal contract is entirely different to a verbal will. If a verbal will has any chance of standing up it should be witnessed by at least two people who are not to be beneficiaries. Even if that is the case, people can make their own interpretations. An unwitnessed and unsigned will in someones own handwriting would usually take precedence over a set of verbal instructions, so a verbal arrangement would have a tough time standing up in any court.

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

Step back a touch. We aren't all legal types. To me there isn't a difference. If you have witnesses saying that they want you to do something with some money and you don't then i would have thought you'd be in trouble if you didn't go through with it.

Example, my mate gives me a fiver in front of a few other lads and asks me to give it to his lass later on, he's hit by a bus and i don't hand over the money. Technically there isn't a will and i'm not keeping to the agreement and other people have heard it too. Am i ok to keep the cash?

I just thought if someone asks you to do something and you agree then that was that. I'm afraid that i don't know the intricacies of wills etc and apologies if that frustrates you a bit.

5t.

more useful thanks. Who says that he didn't have at least three witnesses or something? That was my point.

cheers,

5t.

Charliethedog

My son was told by my dad that he wanted him to have this money. The fact that there was no will and the money became mine is not a problem my son has had.
The fact that he got a big step on the property market with this money I lent him was in my eyes, the best I could do. He never argued with the fact that this money was not his. It was me however that drew up a contract so that I had a % in his house.

The issue here is I thought I had a % stake in his new house after he sold his old house, which I have found out to be not the case. However I have alienated my son with the approach I have taken and I just need to know what money is legally mine.

I may have to go through a solicitor as my son is not talking to me so before I contact a solicitor, I need to know if anyone on here can legally state where I stand.

The Snug Rhino

I can see that....just curious as to how many times the same thing needs to be repeated before you grasp it.

There WAS NO WRITTEN WILL. This means NO WISHES...this means the assets of the estate are divided by legislation in place for just such an event. This means the son got the cash BY LAW and NOT the grandson.

David Lock

Having wasted 10 mins of my time reading this I can't see it being anything else but a wind up. And I hate being taken

Now what was I doing......... ? dl

The Snug Rhino

Its a dead end - the death was years ago and there was no will........Elvis will ride Shergar into the Starship Enterprise before there is any chance of the dead mans money being deemed left to the grandson.

The Snug Rhino

Prob right - but interesting how so many people talk with passion and conviction......and also talk rubbsih at the same time.

Just goes to show...asking for advice on the net (and expecting to get the right answer) is about as stupid as not writting a will!)

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

thanks for explaining it to all us stupid people. i would suggest you lay off the coffee a bit though, clearly a bit twitchy.

do hope if you ever ask a question or put forward an idea that others aren't as patronising or rude to you chap.

5t.