noobyscooby

Bit of a diversion, but why do Warranty Direct advertise here when they won't cover Imprezas?

davedipster

Sounds like this guy could of had mental health issues, you did the best thing cos things can get nasty in these situations, especially with someone with a mental condition.

Ste_TYPE-R

Ive been on both side of the road rage fence.

Years ago when i was 17, i was driving my little 306. We're on a 40mph road and the jeep in front is dawdling at 28mph. I check the nearside lane, its clear and decide to go for the undertake. Next thing i know the jeep starts to pull over to the nearside... give a handful of horn to make him aware and he stops his manovure and i pass him. Get to next set of lights, he pulls up behind me and gets out, i could tell from his stance he wasnt happy. I **** it and put windows up, phew i thought ... until he reached his hand through the open sunroof and slapped me in the head and screamed like a banshee "DONT ****ING UNDERTAKE"

Now unfortunately i didnt have my microsft office keyboard with me so i couldnt **** the **** .... plus he had a very large alsation in his car. I carry my 2 foot torque wrench down the side of my drivers seat nowadays "becuase i dont want it sliding around the boot officer".

The other side .... im driving, 30mph just about to pass the carpark entrance to the local co-op on nearside .... then suddenly i see 2 young lads in some mashed up skoda just drive out of the carpark without looking and drive past me heading the way i came. I had jumped on the anchors but had barely slowed and must've missing this **** by an inch at most. I was absolutely fuming, i turned around and followed the **** for 1/2mile. Lost him, then turned back around to go home, just as im turning around in a layby i see the same **** coming from the other way, looks like he had turned around aswell. Now due to traffic i wasnt able to follow him again ... so i continued home, as i passed a sidestreet i glanced down it and low and behold a skoda parked up with lights on. I drive down the street, pull infront of it and get out. Driver starts panicking and furiously trying to start the car. I shout "WTF WAS THAT, IM THE POOR **** YOU JUST NEARLY KILLED, REMEMBER ME"

His reply was comedy
"Im sorry mate, really i am i didnt see you it wont happen again"

It wasnt the reply so much, as the trembling fear in his voice. I had no intentions of physically hurting the ******, i just wanted him to realise his actions had consequences. I didnt feel very good about it when i got home (im not a bully, infact im very placid and easy going)

Norman Dog

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If that was me he'd have got a blast of CS and a rounders bat wrapped around his head

Pfefferspray, ElektroSchocker, CS-Gas, Armbrust, Tonfa, Abwehrspray, Pepperspray, Softair, E-Schocker, Teleskopschlagstock, E-Stock, Batterien, Warnweste, Rangerweste, uvm. im KLU. SHOP)

I don't take any chances due to fact my Impreza's a car that a carjacker would love to steal.

bluenose172

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Put some bulk on and buy some Bas Rutton vids, lol!

Mikkel

What's all this hard man talk of weapons? Ok ok I know he may have been tooled up but you can't live your life being frightened of that... I'm not a very big fella but I won't back down to anyone if the numbers are fair... should have got out of the car and been a man. Protect your wife and your car with your fists.

Couple of incidents I have had never actually go that far, as when you get out of the car to confront these people they just give it verbal then walk away... bullies.

MikeCardiff

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OP, you did exactly the right thing - lock yourself in the car and call the police - very few people ( unless they are a complete nutter ) will actually smash their way into a car to get you, and if that looks likely to happen, you can just floor it and drive off. If the bloke follows you, drive to the nearest police station and park right outside the doors with your horn held down.

Personally I think the guy was just gutted because he was driving a french car, and realised how inadequate that made him compared to us Impreza owners ;0)

But - all the have a go heros on here saying they would have jumped out and battered the bloke -

1) Great, except if the guy is a nutter you are likely to get stabbed or worse - and I've yet to see any martial arts expert or just someone who fancies themselves as a bit tasty who is harder than a bullet.

2) The guy could also be a martial arts expert, only a bit better than you, in which case you'll get battered anyway.

3) If you do jump out and batter the bloke, with your maglite, crook lock or whatever, you are likely to end up in prison as the law seems to be there now to protect ******* who are in the wrong, not people who stand up for themselves. And you can bet the other bloke will get his solicitors to say he was completely innocent and now has brain damage and try and go for the full compensation.

A friend of mine got 6 months inside a few years back for hitting a bloke once - they were having an argument over the blokes dog who tried to attack my mates dog, and the bloke started pushing and shoving and mouthing off, so my mate ( who has a bit of a short fuse ) hit him - unfortunately for him, he knocked him out cold, and because it came up in court that he had done some boxing in his past and the other bloke blew it up out of all proportion ( probably embaressed at being knocked out by someone half his size and age ), the judge sent him down. Royally fuxxed his employment prospects for the rest of his life due to a moment of madness when he should have just walked away.

chocolate_o_brian

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this is exactly why i feel like a wussy boy now. i feel that i should have got out the car and confronted him, to protect my fiance. but i didnt and cowered in my car. thats the thing challenging me now, i feel very wimpish regards. mikkel has just highlighted it for me.

chocolate_o_brian

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think its a pride thing. i feel i havent protected my own (ie mrs), and its really digging in my sides about how much of a wimp i must have been. i can see his face in my mind now, looking disgusted at me, looking down at me as though im a piece of sh*t.

<pep talk mode>

ah well, il get over it. my mrs is sexy, i have a scooby, with a blitz nur spec, oh and i may end up going places with my art skills, whereas he will be probably stuck in a shirt that dont fit in a french barge

<pep talk mode off/>

CYPEK

And that is important because you'll never know what would happen when you'd get out of the car. He could stab/shot you, steal your car with a blitz nur spec, hurt your missus and you could end up in places like hospital or cemetery so who cares what this b***tard will think about you

MikeCardiff

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Exactly - I dont know any women who are impressed by the fact their husband is good at fighting, and would you really want one who does ( along with her fat ****, 9ct gold jewelry and home made tattoos on her forearms ? )

Most women are far more impressed by a man with a decent job, nice car etc... who can behave like a grown up and walk away from confrontational situations.

I imagine the bloke probably does think you're a wanxer, and has boasted to his low IQ mates down the pub how hard he acted, but if the best he can do in life is drive a Clio and look jealously at people who have nice cars he'll never afford, then I wouldnt worry too much about his opinion.

Henrik

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In the long run, I think life usually rewards idiots like this appropriately. If someone's an **** to other people, it's likely that he hasn't got that many people liking him anyway (because he's an **** etc), so you're better off anyway with your mrs, scooby etc etc . Plus, who wants to be seen as an **** anyway - looser (him, not you, of course)
In fact, it goes with most similar behaviour. If someone feels the need to look down on me for some stupid reason, i just take it as a signal of their own insecureness. The smallest dogs bark the loudest, and all that

Again, kung fu training has helped me realise this. It's not just about fighting, it also builds your own self esteem and inner strength. Before I started training, something like this would have grated at me for weeks, but now it's just water off a ducks back. Just let them get on with being stupid and rise above it (which is what you did, which is the correct behaviour!)

So, chin up, you're a bigger man than him

Martin-STI

Dont worry about it, it happened,its gone and you have an Impreza.

Go out give it a blast, put that smile on your face that the car gives you and forget him.

When I was younger, I had an Escort RS Turbo and I had come down the A6 into Stockport one Sunday afternoon. I was sat in traffic and next thing I heard a bang and looked across 2 lanes and there are 3 lads in this girls 106 and they had thrown a can of beer at my car and lucky it hit back screen but beer was everywhere.
I quickly turned right knowing that there was a Police station(P.S) 100yards down the road. I turned left into road outside knowing it was 1 way the other way but was only just in the road. I go in quickly giving details and reg of car, when this plain clothed cop comes out and says "excuse me sir, have YOU been drinking? Only you smell of beer and have parked your car the wrong way down a one way strret"
I now felt the accused....... .......... I agreed to breath test due to I DONT DRINK (eat YES) and then got an apology off the above mentioned . Got a phone call later that night from Police to say they had spoke to driver and she didnt know the lad who threw the can, she had only agreed to give them a lift after being in a pub she was in... ......

I felt awful about it, thinking I should have confronted, but it is better to fight another day than be a dead hero.

I put about Maglite coz I had my house broke in for my car whilst I was at work and since this has happened I think it has changed my perspective on life. I now have CCTV, internal door locks, ant ram post, 6ft iron gates and soon a Japanese Akita, plus a pick axe hand and hammer at the side of my bed.

This day and age I think people do not value life and are not scared of prison . I would make the scumbags work 14rs a day making mail bags or other ****, take ALL creature comfort off them and feed them **** food. Anyone dont like it TOUGH. Our prisons are to soft on them. If they riot like they did at Strangeways years ago then water cannon them off the roof and when they eventually give up, they have to repair the place and live in it whilst it being repaired, if they dont want to repair it then it stays as it is.

Any way rant over going to wash the car, not that it goes anywhere takes to long to get it out now

[Davey]

In alot of situations like that you can avoid the confrontation by being more confronting yourself, i know it sounds strange but if someone is on the offensive and you cower they are instantly going to keep going..

You dont have to be violent or prepared to fight you just need to look like you are not scared and to achieve that you need to feel confident. Doesnt matter if the bloke is 20 stone of muscle if you know what you're doing you'll put him on his ****, then and only you leave hastefully It pays to learn a few slef defence techniques, the sort of basic principles they teach you in most martial arts will keep you safe. But I hear you say "what if this guy is a black belt in hongkongfooey".. The chances are if he is he wouldnt be acting like such a dick head

[Davey]

Damn right! I've always thought that anyone who commits a first major offence should be shipped out to a high security prison for a little 'recreational visit' for 48 hours, on arrival stripped naked, searched (invasively), hosed down with a fire hose, flea powdered, have their uniform chucked on the floor infront of them then be marched naked to a sell which they will share with a rather large and violent gentlemen who will talk about "what hes going to do with his new bitch".. obviously he will be acting most of it but hey I'm sure it will turn a few young minds away from crime

bren@apex

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From what you say the guy is unreasonable and a little unstable. Id take it that he therefore gets into a lot of scrapes and as a result probably has an idea how to fight. If you dont know how to fight then he would have kicked your ***. There was no sensible choice but to NOT get out, to have confromted the guy could have ended up with you being physically injured, how would that have been the better option?

Mikkel

Are we men or mice?

I'm not having a go at the OP but in this case I think he should have stood up for himself. Always easy to say after the event of course. Ok, you don't confront a car full of lads as 1 against many is silly unless you are Chuck Norris.

I'm not a fighter by any stretch of the imagination (I'm a computer nerd for christ sake), but I am certainly no coward either. Each to their own but I would rather come off second best defending myself and my family than cower in my car with my Mrs.

Bug Eyed Peas

Choccy, just forget about it, your fiancee & yourself weren`t hurt. Thats the main thing.

People react to things differently, I think you did the right thing.

Just forget about it, lifes too short to worry. Live for the future, not the past.

regards

Ant

54Roadster

Sorry, but I disagree. He did the right thing, the alternative was possibly getting kicked to death in front of his wife, how would she feel about him then?

People that are dumb/ hard enough to approach a complete stranger in there car and square up, feel at that moment, they have nothing to lose - however our man did, or he would have been out of the car and rolling round on the deck with the idiot. Responding to a situation like that is instinct, and his instinct told him to stay in the car, beside his wife, so at least if the windown breaks and the door opens, his is there to defend her, not spark out on the pavement 10 mins earlier.

As for martial arts are pretty much useless without repeated real life use - please dont reply if you currently train, I have been training since I was nine - I am technically good at them as a sport - which is what they are. Guys that brawl every weekend in the pizza shop will still have confidence and experience of fighting outside the law, and know what it is like to get hit by someone. If anything, training has taught me to stop and think before reacting - just as COB did. It took ***** what he did.

As for carrying a weapon- well, each to their own, but as previous posts stated, you could end up doing a stretch in a building full of guys that would eat Mr Renault for breakfast, and then get out to be unemployable and spend the rest of your life wondering if it would have been better to have just stayed in the car.

hux309

Depends on the martial art in question and how experienced the person is, the more advanced i became the more i realised just how easy it is to injure someone so i steer clear and only fight if i absolutely have to.

You did the best thing cob, who knows how it could have ended be glad he buggered off, he'll prolly die of a heart attack if he keeps on going anyway.

AlanPPP

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Wether you did the right thing or not is erelevent.

Fight or Flight.Built into us from when we were cavemen.Unless you are constantly surrounded by/brought up in a violent home or surrounded by violence or are a trained fighter most people will 'Flight'.

It's nothing to be ashamed of as you have no choice over what your body decides to do in a situation like this and chances are if you had a weapon in your car you wouldn't use it anyway as your not that type of person.

You did the right thing during 'Flight' by calling the police and protecting your Mrs the best way you could have.I'm sure one day he will pick on sombody and will lose out big time.Karma.

chocolate_o_brian

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thanks for the comments everyone, but what mikkel has said is really lingering on me now. i feel i took the easy option, and if i was a "real" man i would have smacked him

Bug Eyed Peas

Choccy, the harsh reality is, you may have "smacked" him one. He may have retaliated in a violent manner.

So, go easy on yourself, you took the corrrect option. Suffice to say you are here today.

Ant

P.S Forget about it, it just isn`t worth it. Move on as there is more to life than worrying. Remember you are better than him

chocolate_o_brian

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and i have a nur spec and not a laguna

Mikkel

Why has my post been marked as negative?

I've simply expressed my opinion. Sorry COB, not looking to make you feel bad or anything mate. You did what you did, I simply stated I would act differently in the same situation, or I have and I hope I will again.

chocolate_o_brian

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no, no i understand, i just wish i hadnt wimped out and confronted him now.

johnnywrx

seconded these look a serious bit of kit it even has a handle on it like a baseball bat

doppelganger

yeah someone tried that on my brother,attempted murder charge

p.s he was not the aggressor.it was a pisshead with a jamjar full of petrol and a lighter..not sure if he is out yet though

Norman Dog

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No, under the circumstances you probably did the right thing, the bloke's a big dumb lug who's obviously used to a bit of violence hence the confrontation, as has been said that kind of person will get what's coming to him sometime - guaranteed

Personally, I was stabbed in the back of the neck (4 stitches) while at the urinal in a pub12 years ago, didn't even make eye contact with the bloke that had done it beforehand, spun round and I was confronted by a guy with a knife in his hand. You have a split second to think - do I run or do I take a swing at him?

I ran and I'm bloody glad I did, anyone capable of doing that to a total stranger without provocation would not be too bothered to fatally stab you.

That kind of thing makes you very wary for a long time afterwards, that's why I'd fuucking blind someone who looked like he even had the intent.

MikeCardiff

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#82 - a 'real man' as you put it would do exactly what you did and walk away. Someone who is still emotionally stuck in the playground at school ( where 'being hard' is important ) would have hit him.

Its very easy after the event for other people to say what they would have done in the situation ( me personally, I would have had my foot flat on the floor and be putting as much distance between him and me as possible ! ) especially those who think they are a bit hard or have done some martial arts training.

The bloke was a nutter, do you really want to get out of the car and get battered, at which point there isnt anyone there to protect your Mrs ? How do you think your Mrs would feel if she was spending today visiting you in intensive care, or even worse, trying to make funeral plans ?

You arent a wimp, or less of a man ( unless your role model for being male is a Hollywood action hero ) for not sinking to some immature thugs level.