Black people 'less intelligent' scientist claims
22 October 2007, 03:05 PM
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Same as east Africans with stamina - anyone can jog for free, hence they clean up.
The intelligence thing is hard to work out because (in africa) they seem unable to motivate themselves to do anything that isnt handed out to them......hence Zimbabwe is going down the pan, all very clever when it comes to taking the Rhodesian farmers land back.....not so good when it comes to getting up at 5am and planting some seeds on it!
22 October 2007, 03:22 PM
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Can't hear it because I'm at work so don't know why he attacked the car, but if it was me in the car, I'd have ran him over...... twice
22 October 2007, 03:28 PM
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Sport is part physical and part opportunity - take black kids with the physical ability to jump and run and give them the chance to play ball 24/7 in da hood...and they take over the NBA. Swimming,tennis, golf etc requires more money to do as a kid so they dont get the chance......when they do you end up with tiger woods and the williams girls.
Same as east Africans with stamina - anyone can jog for free, hence they clean up.
The intelligence thing is hard to work out because (in africa) they seem unable to motivate themselves to do anything that isnt handed out to them......hence Zimbabwe is going down the pan, all very clever when it comes to taking the Rhodesian farmers land back.....not so good when it comes to getting up at 5am and planting some seeds on it!
Same as east Africans with stamina - anyone can jog for free, hence they clean up.
The intelligence thing is hard to work out because (in africa) they seem unable to motivate themselves to do anything that isnt handed out to them......hence Zimbabwe is going down the pan, all very clever when it comes to taking the Rhodesian farmers land back.....not so good when it comes to getting up at 5am and planting some seeds on it!
lol - theres food its being held back by the profiteerers .
also its not easy to grow anything with out power /water supply
22 October 2007, 03:38 PM
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I believe he is referring to "fast twitch" muscle
Fast and Slow Twitch Muscle Fibers
So yes in answer to your question
Fast and Slow Twitch Muscle Fibers
So yes in answer to your question
22 October 2007, 03:49 PM
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I believe he is referring to "fast twitch" muscle
Fast and Slow Twitch Muscle Fibers
So yes in answer to your question
Fast and Slow Twitch Muscle Fibers
So yes in answer to your question
I would say both Javelin throw and shot put and hammer require "Fast twitch" muscle.
22 October 2007, 03:55 PM
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Hard to understand him, but he says hes a murderer, crack dealer and has ho's in the back somewere, then brags how he chases people out his town, thats when he sets about that car.
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22 October 2007, 03:58 PM
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That is exactly what i meant thanks for the link
Like i said not just explosive but lean and explosive - something you dont really need to be for doing Hammer or Javelin.
Anyway Pete your just picking now and trying to make me look fick 
Like i said not just explosive but lean and explosive - something you dont really need to be for doing Hammer or Javelin.
Anyway Pete your just picking now and trying to make me look fick
22 October 2007, 04:04 PM
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Without going off topic this thread really has got me thinking (Ok yeah yeah hard i know) but seriously what is intelligence?
Is it academic? drive? wisdom?
some very interesting answers.
I mean some people have argued with me and said David Beckham is thick, yet he has marketed himself and is probably worth more than 50 million quid.
yep a good if not great footballer yet one of the most recognizable faces on the planet.
Interesting defining intelligence
Is it academic? drive? wisdom?
some very interesting answers.
I mean some people have argued with me and said David Beckham is thick, yet he has marketed himself and is probably worth more than 50 million quid.
yep a good if not great footballer yet one of the most recognizable faces on the planet.
Interesting defining intelligence
22 October 2007, 06:11 PM
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Dont think Beckham can be regarded as intelligent in any way for the money he makes through football (although one could argue its as a result of even less intelligent people paying their weeks wage to get their kids shirts to look like him...another issue!)
Plenty of dumb people can get rich without being too smart......to quote Mr Rock "Shaq is rich. The guy who signs his check is wealthy.... If Bill Gates woke up with Oprah's money, he'd throw himself out the motherf---ing window"
Plenty of dumb people can get rich without being too smart......to quote Mr Rock "Shaq is rich. The guy who signs his check is wealthy.... If Bill Gates woke up with Oprah's money, he'd throw himself out the motherf---ing window"
22 October 2007, 06:20 PM
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Does it actually matter whether he is right or wrong?
For all we know, he may well be right. On a statistical level there are demonstrable differences in abilities and atributes between the races, just as there are with the sexes. Many of these are accepted as fact, mainly because no-one is offended if you point out that black people tend to be stronger, and it's perfectly ok to point out that white people are weaker because, well, they're white. Same with the thing about asians being more intelligent.
But ultimately does it matter? If I meet a random person, whether it's out on the street or interviewing them for a job, these statistical trends are meaningless, what actually matters is whether this person standing in front of you is thick or not, and you have no way of knowing that based on some physical attribute that they were born with.
Sure, if the guy standing in front of you is decked out in gang regalia then maybe you should avoid them, but that's completely different as they have chosen to present themselves in that way.
Everyone's an individual. At least give them a chance to do something stupid before you assume that they are.
For all we know, he may well be right. On a statistical level there are demonstrable differences in abilities and atributes between the races, just as there are with the sexes. Many of these are accepted as fact, mainly because no-one is offended if you point out that black people tend to be stronger, and it's perfectly ok to point out that white people are weaker because, well, they're white. Same with the thing about asians being more intelligent.
But ultimately does it matter? If I meet a random person, whether it's out on the street or interviewing them for a job, these statistical trends are meaningless, what actually matters is whether this person standing in front of you is thick or not, and you have no way of knowing that based on some physical attribute that they were born with.
Sure, if the guy standing in front of you is decked out in gang regalia then maybe you should avoid them, but that's completely different as they have chosen to present themselves in that way.
Everyone's an individual. At least give them a chance to do something stupid before you assume that they are.
22 October 2007, 06:26 PM
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22 October 2007, 07:04 PM
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I agree on some of your points, Academically i'm as thick as pig s*** but i dont see myself as thick or either particulary clever tbh
But to say its b***ocks well....
It would be like me saying that White males are just as strong physically in some sports i.e. heavyweight boxong or 100 metre running - when plainly they are not.
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But to say its b***ocks well....
It would be like me saying that White males are just as strong physically in some sports i.e. heavyweight boxong or 100 metre running - when plainly they are not.
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22 October 2007, 10:14 PM
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23 October 2007, 01:59 PM
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I would prefer to say "common decency" in this context.
No one could ever accuse me of political correctness as must be plain from my previous posts over the years.
Do you not think there is a place for tact and decent behaviour in the world today?
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No one could ever accuse me of political correctness as must be plain from my previous posts over the years.
Do you not think there is a place for tact and decent behaviour in the world today?
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23 October 2007, 02:04 PM
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23 October 2007, 04:52 PM
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Do you think the Kenyans would have a hope in hell if the cost of running was on a par with golf or tennis? You can have all the physical attributes you need but if you cant afford the sport you're stuck.
23 October 2007, 08:16 PM
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23 October 2007, 11:04 PM
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Its all about genetics, some races are made for swimming, some races are made for running its only natural that some races will have a lower capability when it comes to the brain dept.
Wether the research is right or wrong is irrelevant, the theory is just that...a theory, the race card shouldnt come into it.
Wether the research is right or wrong is irrelevant, the theory is just that...a theory, the race card shouldnt come into it.
23 October 2007, 11:19 PM
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The race card comes into play straight away, by the claim that black people are less intelligent. Whether the research is correct is a matter of opinion, as it depends on what we actually class as intelligence and the context that his research was based upon.
Only my opinion, without boring anyone with a long winded response.
Only my opinion, without boring anyone with a long winded response.
23 October 2007, 11:27 PM
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The race card comes into play straight away, by the claim that black people are less intelligent. Whether the research is correct is a matter of opinion, as it depends on what we actually class as intelligence and the context that his research was based upon.
Only my opinion, without boring anyone with a long winded response.
Only my opinion, without boring anyone with a long winded response.
I´d suggest that the research is a matter of record rather than opinion. Of course these are statistics that show a trend rather than imply that everyone of a particular ethnic background fits the pattern.
pupils achieving 5 or more A*-C at GCSE/GNVQ: by sex and ethnic group, 2004, England
From here :National Statistics Online
23 October 2007, 11:36 PM
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To me, and I only speak from my opinion, statistics may show a trend, but if many of the black community are living in poorer areas (I may well be wrong) then they are likely to under achieve, as people from any other ethnic backgrounds may well do within the same place.