How to deal with Chav'd dogs ??
24 October 2007, 05:26 PM
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The breeder I bought mine from exercises up to 5 malamutes at a time ON the lead. They are very active dogs, but still come home worn out. So its not impossible. My preference has been and always will be , ON the lead.
Not so much through poor training but more for people who are terrified of dogs and also walking in the same area. Yes you can call your dog back, but the slightest hesitation, and you could seriously scare someone. Especially a malamute lol
24 October 2007, 06:05 PM
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Certainly is mate no doubt there!
My experience with training is we'll none. I'm not passing on information
assume anything I say is a question. I was told that the dog needs to be off the lead as a pup as much of possible in a safe place but as public as possible.
If you let them off when they are tiny (safe) they always stay by your side, I can back this up from my pup and as they get older they tend to be used to the feedom, were as if you wait til older and let them off they run off and its harder to get them back.
That comes straight from the mouth of my breeder.. well my dogs breeder
and so far its working !
Edit: Oh forgot to mention we have her going to puppy classes, which as well as sounding cute, is doing her wonders ! Very clever people these trainers
My experience with training is we'll none. I'm not passing on information
assume anything I say is a question. I was told that the dog needs to be off the lead as a pup as much of possible in a safe place but as public as possible.If you let them off when they are tiny (safe) they always stay by your side, I can back this up from my pup and as they get older they tend to be used to the feedom, were as if you wait til older and let them off they run off and its harder to get them back.
That comes straight from the mouth of my breeder.. well my dogs breeder
and so far its working !Edit: Oh forgot to mention we have her going to puppy classes, which as well as sounding cute, is doing her wonders ! Very clever people these trainers
24 October 2007, 06:13 PM
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24 October 2007, 06:14 PM
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Aaaah I see what you mean now. Tuvaaq stays to my side around the house and in the garden, but in public will be on a lead without fail. But being on a lead is not a BAD thing, just avoid them being kept teathered when at home, in the garden etc.
My breeder suggested socialising classes, obedience, and spending some time with other dogs so there is less chance of automatic aggression towards other dogs
My breeder suggested socialising classes, obedience, and spending some time with other dogs so there is less chance of automatic aggression towards other dogs
24 October 2007, 06:15 PM
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. Bad day, or are you miffed about all the celtic fans in Lisbon? 
24 October 2007, 06:23 PM
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Big open spaces, they get to run and walk free where its safe to do so.
Where we live is much quieter now, so less of an issue generally.
Tiggs (snug) has lurchers if I recall correctly - quiet natured at the best of times, unless you happen to be small, furry and rabbit like. Whether his EBT was allowed the same freedom around people/dogs is another matter.
24 October 2007, 06:36 PM
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'Macho image'
Veronica Brown, of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Breed Council, says the breed's good nature - which runs contrary to popular opinion - may make them easier to steal.
She said: "I think many dogs get stolen and I think, yes, there is probably more inclination to steal Staffordshire Bull Terriers.
MOST STOLEN DOGS
1. Stafford Bull Terrier - 56%
2. Rottweiler - 5%
3. German Shepherd - 4%
4. Cocker Spaniel - 2%
5. Jack Russell - 2%
Source: Met Police report
"They're so people orientated that they will go with anyone, contrary to their reputation. They're happy to go off with people. They just love people.
"Because of their macho image, people think they're going to look macho with a Staffordshire Bull Terrier, but the dogs would far rather be curled up by the fire."
Veronica Brown, of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Breed Council, says the breed's good nature - which runs contrary to popular opinion - may make them easier to steal.
She said: "I think many dogs get stolen and I think, yes, there is probably more inclination to steal Staffordshire Bull Terriers.
MOST STOLEN DOGS
1. Stafford Bull Terrier - 56%
2. Rottweiler - 5%
3. German Shepherd - 4%
4. Cocker Spaniel - 2%
5. Jack Russell - 2%
Source: Met Police report
"They're so people orientated that they will go with anyone, contrary to their reputation. They're happy to go off with people. They just love people.
"Because of their macho image, people think they're going to look macho with a Staffordshire Bull Terrier, but the dogs would far rather be curled up by the fire."
24 October 2007, 06:48 PM
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EBT never off the lead unless he was out at 5am! Perfect example of why i would never have another.....burried his lead with him!
24 October 2007, 07:13 PM
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I have a puncture mark on the back of my hand from a Staff.
I deserved it, lovely dog, we were playing and she managed to give it a little bit too much pressure.
Yes, Chavs do get them, but still a fantastic animal.
I deserved it, lovely dog, we were playing and she managed to give it a little bit too much pressure.
Yes, Chavs do get them, but still a fantastic animal.
24 October 2007, 07:24 PM
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not hurting....just realistic. there are hundreds of breeds of dogs, despite what the owners of the nasty ones will say - many are far less likely to be a problem than others. To say otherwise is as stupid as saying a blackbird is as dangerous as a vulture.
I wouldn't pick a dog (again) with so many "potential" issues.....and i certainly wouldn't pick one that needed to be on the lead for whatever reason.
I wouldn't pick a dog (again) with so many "potential" issues.....and i certainly wouldn't pick one that needed to be on the lead for whatever reason.
24 October 2007, 07:30 PM
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Hang on a minute,
You said the "chav" dog was on one of those long leads and yours roams free yet you are blaming the chav owners for not keeping them under control.
You said the "chav" dog was on one of those long leads and yours roams free yet you are blaming the chav owners for not keeping them under control.
24 October 2007, 07:59 PM
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I am lucky to live in the country side, the nearest chav town is an hours drive away. I always let my staffy off the lead to walk him but I know he will never attack another dog, neither did my last one in the 13 years I had him. It's normally sheep dogs etc that try to go for him but he just runs off and never bites back.
The rule I use is if the person coming the other way puts there dog on a lead when they see me then I put mine on, it normally means there dog cannot be trusted with other dogs.
The uneducated amongst us would do well to watch this:
YouTube - The Staffordshire Bull Terrier - The "Real" Story
24 October 2007, 08:16 PM
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Dunno, every now and then I wonder who is more stupid - the majority of contributors to scoobynet, or me for continuing to read it all <sigh>
24 October 2007, 09:20 PM
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Pimmo, Is this central park in liscard and staffys you are talking about?
pm if you dont want to say and have all the staffy owners jumping down your throat vigourously defending them.
pm if you dont want to say and have all the staffy owners jumping down your throat vigourously defending them.
24 October 2007, 09:23 PM
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'Macho image'
Veronica Brown, of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Breed Council, says the breed's good nature - which runs contrary to popular opinion - may make them easier to steal.
She said: "I think many dogs get stolen and I think, yes, there is probably more inclination to steal Staffordshire Bull Terriers.
MOST STOLEN DOGS
1. Stafford Bull Terrier - 56%
2. Rottweiler - 5%
3. German Shepherd - 4%
4. Cocker Spaniel - 2%
5. Jack Russell - 2%
Source: Met Police report
"They're so people orientated that they will go with anyone, contrary to their reputation. They're happy to go off with people. They just love people.
"Because of their macho image, people think they're going to look macho with a Staffordshire Bull Terrier, but the dogs would far rather be curled up by the fire."
Veronica Brown, of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Breed Council, says the breed's good nature - which runs contrary to popular opinion - may make them easier to steal.
She said: "I think many dogs get stolen and I think, yes, there is probably more inclination to steal Staffordshire Bull Terriers.
MOST STOLEN DOGS
1. Stafford Bull Terrier - 56%
2. Rottweiler - 5%
3. German Shepherd - 4%
4. Cocker Spaniel - 2%
5. Jack Russell - 2%
Source: Met Police report
"They're so people orientated that they will go with anyone, contrary to their reputation. They're happy to go off with people. They just love people.
"Because of their macho image, people think they're going to look macho with a Staffordshire Bull Terrier, but the dogs would far rather be curled up by the fire."
24 October 2007, 11:34 PM
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Your more than welcome to borrow my two as protection for your pup.........................
The brindle one is the physco, the white one is very polite towards other dogs.............. unless of course provoked!
Seriously though, I walk mine late at night, that way I avoid idiots, avoid confrontation and other dogs because the brindle one does have some issues. The first sign of aggression from another dog and I'm afraid to say she "asks questions" later.......................
If walking late at night is not an option or has no benefits I can only suggest you find an alternative walk or be vigilant and keep your eyes peeled. My brindle ended up with issues because another boxer gave her a right hammering when she was a pup - she is now "fear aggressive" towards other dogs, basically the nett result is that she will go into defensive mode at the first sign of a dog.
We have tried behavourists additional training etc etc but have drawn a blank.
Whatever you decide, good luck and stay safe!
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The brindle one is the physco, the white one is very polite towards other dogs.............. unless of course provoked!
Seriously though, I walk mine late at night, that way I avoid idiots, avoid confrontation and other dogs because the brindle one does have some issues. The first sign of aggression from another dog and I'm afraid to say she "asks questions" later.......................
If walking late at night is not an option or has no benefits I can only suggest you find an alternative walk or be vigilant and keep your eyes peeled. My brindle ended up with issues because another boxer gave her a right hammering when she was a pup - she is now "fear aggressive" towards other dogs, basically the nett result is that she will go into defensive mode at the first sign of a dog.
We have tried behavourists additional training etc etc but have drawn a blank.
Whatever you decide, good luck and stay safe!
Regards
GB
25 October 2007, 12:28 AM
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I wonder who the saddo was who infracted Spoon 
Think I can guess.
At the end of the day, all animals, ourselves included have a nasty side when pushed. My sister in law has what I call a "pig dog", English Bull Terrier, and she is as far removed from a chav as you can get
Think I can guess.At the end of the day, all animals, ourselves included have a nasty side when pushed. My sister in law has what I call a "pig dog", English Bull Terrier, and she is as far removed from a chav as you can get
25 October 2007, 01:38 AM
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Where kinda going off topic here, I'm not interested which breads you think are "Chav", I'm looking for tips on keeping my dog safe... well as safe as possible!
I dont think the fact that she will be a big dog means anything.. although I dont think she's going to be that big as at 15-16 weeks shes still much smaller than the other pups.. GS pups that is
I guess the only real way to stop them is to avoid them, its just a shame that these people give certain dogs a bad name and I do whole heartedly believe its the owners and not a certain breed of dog.
I dont think the fact that she will be a big dog means anything.. although I dont think she's going to be that big as at 15-16 weeks shes still much smaller than the other pups.. GS pups that is
I guess the only real way to stop them is to avoid them, its just a shame that these people give certain dogs a bad name and I do whole heartedly believe its the owners and not a certain breed of dog.
25 October 2007, 09:30 AM
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Where kinda going off topic here, I'm not interested which breads you think are "Chav", I'm looking for tips on keeping my dog safe... well as safe as possible!
I dont think the fact that she will be a big dog means anything.. although I dont think she's going to be that big as at 15-16 weeks shes still much smaller than the other pups.. GS pups that is
I guess the only real way to stop them is to avoid them, its just a shame that these people give certain dogs a bad name and I do whole heartedly believe its the owners and not a certain breed of dog.
I dont think the fact that she will be a big dog means anything.. although I dont think she's going to be that big as at 15-16 weeks shes still much smaller than the other pups.. GS pups that is
I guess the only real way to stop them is to avoid them, its just a shame that these people give certain dogs a bad name and I do whole heartedly believe its the owners and not a certain breed of dog.
Spot on - hit the nail on the head. I could easily allow my dogs to go around intimadating people and be an **** hole if I wanted.
The fact is, I don't! I try at all times to ensure my dogs are on-lead, they have both completed the kennel clud good citizen award to silver level and have on-going training everyday to keep them upto speed.
They only go off lead very late at night, this has benefits for me and them as the time I walk them normal folk are tucked up in bed and 14 year old chavs are as well
.Seriously if you / other residents are that concerned club together and make an official complaint to the RSPCA and the police.
Regards
GB
25 October 2007, 09:56 AM
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Where kinda going off topic here, I'm not interested which breads you think are "Chav", I'm looking for tips on keeping my dog safe... well as safe as possible!
I dont think the fact that she will be a big dog means anything.. although I dont think she's going to be that big as at 15-16 weeks shes still much smaller than the other pups.. GS pups that is
I guess the only real way to stop them is to avoid them, its just a shame that these people give certain dogs a bad name and I do whole heartedly believe its the owners and not a certain breed of dog.
I dont think the fact that she will be a big dog means anything.. although I dont think she's going to be that big as at 15-16 weeks shes still much smaller than the other pups.. GS pups that is
I guess the only real way to stop them is to avoid them, its just a shame that these people give certain dogs a bad name and I do whole heartedly believe its the owners and not a certain breed of dog.
Why sholud you have to avoid taking your dog out though, its letting them victimise you...
25 October 2007, 10:05 AM
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But feel free to blame the breed rather than the owner
and give them a bad name just like everyone else does.
25 October 2007, 11:18 AM
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Right ill name my breed of dog cos i think its fairly relevant, i have a 4 year old staff and i bought it cos i love the breed. They are especially good with kids which we now know first hand as we have a 7 month old son who the dog adores ( i would never leave them alone like i wouldnt with any dog and child) I have my dog on a lead the majority of the time and i excercise him by riding along on my bike with him on a extendable lead. He has only ever faught once and that was to protect himself from a dog that attacked him , as soon as i called him he let go anyway. i have reared him to not attack dogs and if anything ive been embarrased as he is chased around fields by small fluffly yappy things, i would not have it any other way though.
The amount of times ive been out though and i have asked people who i dont know to put there dog on a lead is unbelievable, they always reply 'my dog wont do anything he's soft' i reply with ' well how do you know he wont turn on mine?' they always look at me funny as if its my dog and myself who is in the wrong, if i dont know a person and there dog then i dont know jow my dog will react to them after all its in every animal to protect itself if it or people close to it feel threatened.
i have been insulted by numerous people because there dog has gone for mine and i have went on a bit of a rant because i have warned them to put there dog on the lead. my dog has never attacked another dog and the way he behaves when other dogs go for him is exactly how i want him to, he only ever fights back when he is bitten, which after all people only punch back when punched themselves
The amount of times ive been out though and i have asked people who i dont know to put there dog on a lead is unbelievable, they always reply 'my dog wont do anything he's soft' i reply with ' well how do you know he wont turn on mine?' they always look at me funny as if its my dog and myself who is in the wrong, if i dont know a person and there dog then i dont know jow my dog will react to them after all its in every animal to protect itself if it or people close to it feel threatened.
i have been insulted by numerous people because there dog has gone for mine and i have went on a bit of a rant because i have warned them to put there dog on the lead. my dog has never attacked another dog and the way he behaves when other dogs go for him is exactly how i want him to, he only ever fights back when he is bitten, which after all people only punch back when punched themselves
25 October 2007, 11:43 AM
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Right ill name my breed of dog cos i think its fairly relevant, i have a 4 year old staff and i bought it cos i love the breed. They are especially good with kids which we now know first hand as we have a 7 month old son who the dog adores ( i would never leave them alone like i wouldnt with any dog and child) I have my dog on a lead the majority of the time and i excercise him by riding along on my bike with him on a extendable lead. He has only ever faught once and that was to protect himself from a dog that attacked him , as soon as i called him he let go anyway. i have reared him to not attack dogs and if anything ive been embarrased as he is chased around fields by small fluffly yappy things, i would not have it any other way though.
The amount of times ive been out though and i have asked people who i dont know to put there dog on a lead is unbelievable, they always reply 'my dog wont do anything he's soft' i reply with ' well how do you know he wont turn on mine?' they always look at me funny as if its my dog and myself who is in the wrong, if i dont know a person and there dog then i dont know jow my dog will react to them after all its in every animal to protect itself if it or people close to it feel threatened.
i have been insulted by numerous people because there dog has gone for mine and i have went on a bit of a rant because i have warned them to put there dog on the lead. my dog has never attacked another dog and the way he behaves when other dogs go for him is exactly how i want him to, he only ever fights back when he is bitten, which after all people only punch back when punched themselves
The amount of times ive been out though and i have asked people who i dont know to put there dog on a lead is unbelievable, they always reply 'my dog wont do anything he's soft' i reply with ' well how do you know he wont turn on mine?' they always look at me funny as if its my dog and myself who is in the wrong, if i dont know a person and there dog then i dont know jow my dog will react to them after all its in every animal to protect itself if it or people close to it feel threatened.
i have been insulted by numerous people because there dog has gone for mine and i have went on a bit of a rant because i have warned them to put there dog on the lead. my dog has never attacked another dog and the way he behaves when other dogs go for him is exactly how i want him to, he only ever fights back when he is bitten, which after all people only punch back when punched themselves