How to deal with Chav'd dogs ??
25 October 2007, 02:55 PM
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Thats scary, one of them devil dogs innit. Been reading up on these and they seem a realy nice breed. Shame other people don't read up before posting dribble.
25 October 2007, 02:59 PM
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Kennel club actually recognises a Malamute as a USELESS guard dog as they are SO approachable
25 October 2007, 03:15 PM
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Just use some common sense, if theirs other people about with their dogs off the lead keep yours on until theyv left your vacinity. If you see one coming towards you change direction.
When i take mine out, if theres people on the field i walk him on il hold back for a few mins then proceed & let him off the lead when its clear. If theres too many il just keep him on the lead then let him off when i take him out a bit later on.
Cant expect every one to walk their dog in a way just to suit you, too many dog owners and dogs, not enough places to walk them. If you dont want to come across other dogs or owners buy a treadmill.
I also really cant see the point in judging a dog or owner by their class. Its quite pathetic really & i find it quite ignorant. Whats next, saying my dogs cost more than yours because mine is from a southern breader & yours is northern.
You might look down on a staff owner as a chav but they can certainly look back up towards you as a stuck up toffee nosed p%$£&.
I had quite an amusing run in with another dog walker the other day. Where i live they recently completed building a new housing estate backing onto the one i live on. The houses are quite expensive, few footballers live there people doing well for them selfs. Theres a road runs in between with a few open fields at one end where every 1 tends to walk their dogs.
Im currently looking after my aunties minature schnauzer wile shes in hospital. I took it out with my akita, i wont let the schnauzer of the lead as its not my dog & i dont know what its liable to do so to be safer than sorry i just keep it on the lead.
I gets half way up the field & theres no one about so i let my akita off, hes walking just ahead of me. The field is on a hill & i have a good view all around me so i turned round to check & see if theres anyone else near. Sure enough bloke who iv seen a couple of times is driving along the road in his new range rover. He pulls over at the bottom of the field (must only be 200 yards from his house), he gets out opens the back and his dog (not sure what kind it was, some kind of hound lovely looking dog like a redy brown) jumps out & darts straight towards me up the field barking.
I shouted my akita who came straight to me and i put his lead back on, this blokes dog by this time is just infront of me barking, but wouldnt come any closer. So im standing there with my akita sitting behind me and the schnauzer infront. Maybe an error of judgement on my part but instead of carrying on walking and having his dog follow me i decided to stand & wait for him to get it under control as it wasnt really doing any harm.
Anyway the blokes getting closer running up the hill in his designer wellies, runs straight past his dog towards me shouring abuse. Im sure he filled his pants when my akita stood up and moved infront of me letting off a houl, think he only saw the schnauzer at first. He soon changed direction & couldnt apologise enough as he started running in the other direction after his dog which by this time had started chasing a bird.
When i take mine out, if theres people on the field i walk him on il hold back for a few mins then proceed & let him off the lead when its clear. If theres too many il just keep him on the lead then let him off when i take him out a bit later on.
Cant expect every one to walk their dog in a way just to suit you, too many dog owners and dogs, not enough places to walk them. If you dont want to come across other dogs or owners buy a treadmill.
I also really cant see the point in judging a dog or owner by their class. Its quite pathetic really & i find it quite ignorant. Whats next, saying my dogs cost more than yours because mine is from a southern breader & yours is northern.
You might look down on a staff owner as a chav but they can certainly look back up towards you as a stuck up toffee nosed p%$£&.
I had quite an amusing run in with another dog walker the other day. Where i live they recently completed building a new housing estate backing onto the one i live on. The houses are quite expensive, few footballers live there people doing well for them selfs. Theres a road runs in between with a few open fields at one end where every 1 tends to walk their dogs.
Im currently looking after my aunties minature schnauzer wile shes in hospital. I took it out with my akita, i wont let the schnauzer of the lead as its not my dog & i dont know what its liable to do so to be safer than sorry i just keep it on the lead.
I gets half way up the field & theres no one about so i let my akita off, hes walking just ahead of me. The field is on a hill & i have a good view all around me so i turned round to check & see if theres anyone else near. Sure enough bloke who iv seen a couple of times is driving along the road in his new range rover. He pulls over at the bottom of the field (must only be 200 yards from his house), he gets out opens the back and his dog (not sure what kind it was, some kind of hound lovely looking dog like a redy brown) jumps out & darts straight towards me up the field barking.
I shouted my akita who came straight to me and i put his lead back on, this blokes dog by this time is just infront of me barking, but wouldnt come any closer. So im standing there with my akita sitting behind me and the schnauzer infront. Maybe an error of judgement on my part but instead of carrying on walking and having his dog follow me i decided to stand & wait for him to get it under control as it wasnt really doing any harm.
Anyway the blokes getting closer running up the hill in his designer wellies, runs straight past his dog towards me shouring abuse. Im sure he filled his pants when my akita stood up and moved infront of me letting off a houl, think he only saw the schnauzer at first. He soon changed direction & couldnt apologise enough as he started running in the other direction after his dog which by this time had started chasing a bird.
25 October 2007, 03:41 PM
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Sure enough bloke who iv seen a couple of times is driving along the road in his new range rover. He pulls over at the bottom of the field (must only be 200 yards from his house), he gets out opens the back and his dog (not sure what kind it was, some kind of hound lovely looking dog like a redy brown) jumps out & darts straight towards me up the field barking.
Beautiful dogs, but a bit of a fashion accessory now unfortunately. Sounds like a prime candidate for the above.
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Been trying to keep away from this thread, as the usual "All staffies are child eating devils, and all Staffie owners are Chavs" type bollox.
I own a Staffie, and I'm not a Chav. Do I walk my dog on the lead? No.
Why? Because he's trained properly thats why. If we meet another dog/owner coming the other way, I simple take my dog to one side and tell him to sit, which he does. I've had owners fighing their dogs on the lead to try and attack my dog, yet mine just sits there until the other dog has past and we carry on walking.
Training is essential to any breed of dog, and more so for so called "Hard" dogs. Most owners are responsible enough to do this, and every Staffie I've come across has been well trained and well mannered. Just like Chav Subaru drivers, the few bad Staffie owners give the whole breed a bad name.
This is mine. Barring kicking him in his nuts, all he'll want to do is play with you, or insist you rub his tummy.
I own a Staffie, and I'm not a Chav. Do I walk my dog on the lead? No.
Why? Because he's trained properly thats why. If we meet another dog/owner coming the other way, I simple take my dog to one side and tell him to sit, which he does. I've had owners fighing their dogs on the lead to try and attack my dog, yet mine just sits there until the other dog has past and we carry on walking.
Training is essential to any breed of dog, and more so for so called "Hard" dogs. Most owners are responsible enough to do this, and every Staffie I've come across has been well trained and well mannered. Just like Chav Subaru drivers, the few bad Staffie owners give the whole breed a bad name.
This is mine. Barring kicking him in his nuts, all he'll want to do is play with you, or insist you rub his tummy.
25 October 2007, 05:04 PM
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Peoples dogs are part of there family and if you slate there dog then it's like slating one of there kids, hence the reason people get so wound up about there dog being called, usually by people who know nothing about the breed other than what they have read.
You will find staffie owners get pissed off with the hard time there pets get and will defend there dog as it's always this type of breed that get's a hard time. It's a shame that the chav types have latched on to this breed as they really are an amazing dog, something you would know if you had dealings with a well looked after family pet like mine and most peoples.
Hope you find a safe place to walk and please don't tar certain dogs with the same brush.
You will find staffie owners get pissed off with the hard time there pets get and will defend there dog as it's always this type of breed that get's a hard time. It's a shame that the chav types have latched on to this breed as they really are an amazing dog, something you would know if you had dealings with a well looked after family pet like mine and most peoples.
Hope you find a safe place to walk and please don't tar certain dogs with the same brush.
Totally agree with everything you've said there
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Loggerheads (woods and stream)is only 45 min drive or eccleston (field along the river)just past chester along the river dee is 30 mins, my dogs love to play in the water at these 2 places, and its clean unlike the mersey.
Not had any hassle at the above places.
26 October 2007, 08:21 PM
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I had heard a similar thing, try harrison park, or further afield royden park.
Loggerheads (woods and stream)is only 45 min drive or eccleston (field along the river)just past chester along the river dee is 30 mins, my dogs love to play in the water at these 2 places, and its clean unlike the mersey.
Not had any hassle at the above places.
Loggerheads (woods and stream)is only 45 min drive or eccleston (field along the river)just past chester along the river dee is 30 mins, my dogs love to play in the water at these 2 places, and its clean unlike the mersey.
Not had any hassle at the above places.
and if you're about in Harrison you'll probably see me or the misses with the dog ! Pup GS called Tara !
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Will keep an eye out then, either me or my misses take our 2 retrievers there. In the summer you should try eccleston just off the ***, theres a path that you can all the way into the centre of chester along the river and easy access points for the dogs to get in and out of the water for a splash about, will be muddy this time of year though.
26 October 2007, 09:30 PM
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Will keep an eye out then, either me or my misses take our 2 retrievers there. In the summer you should try eccleston just off the ***, theres a path that you can all the way into the centre of chester along the river and easy access points for the dogs to get in and out of the water for a splash about, will be muddy this time of year though.
Will keep an eye out mate, cheers for the tips
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Been trying to keep away from this thread, as the usual "All staffies are child eating devils, and all Staffie owners are Chavs" type bollox.
I own a Staffie, and I'm not a Chav. Do I walk my dog on the lead? No.
Why? Because he's trained properly thats why. If we meet another dog/owner coming the other way, I simple take my dog to one side and tell him to sit, which he does. I've had owners fighing their dogs on the lead to try and attack my dog, yet mine just sits there until the other dog has past and we carry on walking.
Training is essential to any breed of dog, and more so for so called "Hard" dogs. Most owners are responsible enough to do this, and every Staffie I've come across has been well trained and well mannered. Just like Chav Subaru drivers, the few bad Staffie owners give the whole breed a bad name.
This is mine. Barring kicking him in his nuts, all he'll want to do is play with you, or insist you rub his tummy.
I own a Staffie, and I'm not a Chav. Do I walk my dog on the lead? No.
Why? Because he's trained properly thats why. If we meet another dog/owner coming the other way, I simple take my dog to one side and tell him to sit, which he does. I've had owners fighing their dogs on the lead to try and attack my dog, yet mine just sits there until the other dog has past and we carry on walking.
Training is essential to any breed of dog, and more so for so called "Hard" dogs. Most owners are responsible enough to do this, and every Staffie I've come across has been well trained and well mannered. Just like Chav Subaru drivers, the few bad Staffie owners give the whole breed a bad name.
This is mine. Barring kicking him in his nuts, all he'll want to do is play with you, or insist you rub his tummy.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BAD DOG ONLY AN IRRESPONSIBLE OWNER
Unfortunately some breeds attract the wrong type of person and at the moment it is bull breeds - a few years ago it was Rotties and before that GSDs.
This has another affect that the dogs homes become full of unwanted bull breeds which have problems due to the early formative stages of lives being spent with some complete ******** who wants them as as a "hard" dog. These then are rehomed at 12-18 months old when ******** gets fed up with them some with massive behavioural problems to another ******** and the circle carries on or the dogs are rehomed to a responsible owner who then has the task of sorting out the dog.
This isn't just bullbreeds but you can see the problem if the dog has taught to be aggressive in its first few months WTF are you to expect
I run a dog training club and see this first hand
You should have to take an intelligence test to own a dog and you should have to be more intelligent then the dog - that should sort out the problem
I have just re-homed a 6 month old dog from the dog pound found roaming the streets of Leeds - they traced the owner and his attitude to the £65 release fee was "F**k it, keep the dog I can get another one cheaper than that"
Unfortunately they wouldn't give me his address. Very sad and it is a cracking dog (I would fail the intelligence test)
27 October 2007, 02:43 PM
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Not to sure about NO such thing as a bad dog. They can have it in them just to be aggresive, but most cases of dog bites and incidents ARE due to bad owners without a doubt.
I think the whole "image" thing going on is what led me to want a Malamute actually. Rather than people being afraid, I have had people stop me in the street, in the vets and even a couple now just pulling up in cars JUST to ask what he is, etc.
He is a great conversation starter
A couple of chalk and cheese pictures of him, one soppy and the other a bit nasty maybe, in reverse order.
I think the whole "image" thing going on is what led me to want a Malamute actually. Rather than people being afraid, I have had people stop me in the street, in the vets and even a couple now just pulling up in cars JUST to ask what he is, etc.
He is a great conversation starter
A couple of chalk and cheese pictures of him, one soppy and the other a bit nasty maybe, in reverse order.
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Been trying to keep away from this thread, as the usual "All staffies are child eating devils, and all Staffie owners are Chavs" type bollox.
I own a Staffie, and I'm not a Chav. Do I walk my dog on the lead? No.
Why? Because he's trained properly thats why. If we meet another dog/owner coming the other way, I simple take my dog to one side and tell him to sit, which he does. I've had owners fighing their dogs on the lead to try and attack my dog, yet mine just sits there until the other dog has past and we carry on walking.
Training is essential to any breed of dog, and more so for so called "Hard" dogs. Most owners are responsible enough to do this, and every Staffie I've come across has been well trained and well mannered. Just like Chav Subaru drivers, the few bad Staffie owners give the whole breed a bad name.
This is mine. Barring kicking him in his nuts, all he'll want to do is play with you, or insist you rub his tummy.
I own a Staffie, and I'm not a Chav. Do I walk my dog on the lead? No.
Why? Because he's trained properly thats why. If we meet another dog/owner coming the other way, I simple take my dog to one side and tell him to sit, which he does. I've had owners fighing their dogs on the lead to try and attack my dog, yet mine just sits there until the other dog has past and we carry on walking.
Training is essential to any breed of dog, and more so for so called "Hard" dogs. Most owners are responsible enough to do this, and every Staffie I've come across has been well trained and well mannered. Just like Chav Subaru drivers, the few bad Staffie owners give the whole breed a bad name.
This is mine. Barring kicking him in his nuts, all he'll want to do is play with you, or insist you rub his tummy.
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