Is Bush making it worse?
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i rather have none of them having nuclear weapons but iran doesnt have em anyways and the way they r getting treated and threatened it maybe a good idea for iran tae have a few tae deter the evil intentions of the usa and israel
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By most estimates, Israel are already the 6th largest nuclear power anyway
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Israel's nuclear programme
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Israel's nuclear programme
nice one olly thats why the usa dont want any arabs get weapons so they cant defend themselves against the warmongers israel
nice link
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u know its amazing fae all the middle eastern leaders , ahmadinejad is the only guy wae baws and backbone, very impressive, only outspoken muslim leader since the great mahatir mohammad of malaysia
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check this 4 part UN speech
YouTube - 1UN General Assembly Ahmadinejad Speech Part 1
and also his columbia uni speech
YouTube - PART1 Speech from Ahmadinejad at the Columbia Uni.
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Shame about the Infraction. Seemed that Moses was only giving the other side's point of view albeit in Moses-Speak?
Wasn't me mate. dl
Wasn't me mate. dl
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Which retard dished out that infraction ? Just for showing the flip side of the coin, ffs ?
Don't forget it wasn't that long ago that Khadaffi was branded a lunatic despot, and now Jack Straw can't get his tongue far enough up his ***.
Don't forget it wasn't that long ago that Khadaffi was branded a lunatic despot, and now Jack Straw can't get his tongue far enough up his ***.
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I think if anything does kick off, I really can't see us getting involved. And if we did it would probably mean the end of Labour in power - not that I care much for any of power merchants.
As a populace, we didn't really have the stomach for Iraq and we gave them the benefit of the doubt and got made to look like US lapdogs.
Perhaps the US populace can be convinced that Iran wants to "Kill us all" but I suspect the UK government will find themselves very alone if they commit our forces too.
Plus it will bring Russia and China closer together as allies if they see the west as a threatening force - which it appears to be right now.
As a populace, we didn't really have the stomach for Iraq and we gave them the benefit of the doubt and got made to look like US lapdogs.
Perhaps the US populace can be convinced that Iran wants to "Kill us all" but I suspect the UK government will find themselves very alone if they commit our forces too.
Plus it will bring Russia and China closer together as allies if they see the west as a threatening force - which it appears to be right now.
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I've mentioned this before. mainly on the 9/11 threads regarding the real reason for invading Iraq. OIL.
It's the same reason why America will invade Iran. Iran has Oil fields that America wants. It's written into the American constitution, that America can go to war with any nation it feels threatened by. That does not just mean weapons. It means commodities, like Oil for instance.
It will only be a matter of time before America invades Iran. It will come down to 2 things.
1) To stop Iran developing Nuclear weapons (just like Iraq had WMD)
2) Iran terrorists blow something up in America (See 9/11)
2 weeks before 9/11 a report came out in America saying the only way America could go to war with Afghanistan/Iraq was if there was another Pearl Harbour. They didn't have to wait long did they.
Awaits the Conspiracy theory posts.
America would never lie for there own gain, would they?
It's the same reason why America will invade Iran. Iran has Oil fields that America wants. It's written into the American constitution, that America can go to war with any nation it feels threatened by. That does not just mean weapons. It means commodities, like Oil for instance.
It will only be a matter of time before America invades Iran. It will come down to 2 things.
1) To stop Iran developing Nuclear weapons (just like Iraq had WMD)
2) Iran terrorists blow something up in America (See 9/11)
2 weeks before 9/11 a report came out in America saying the only way America could go to war with Afghanistan/Iraq was if there was another Pearl Harbour. They didn't have to wait long did they.
Awaits the Conspiracy theory posts.
America would never lie for there own gain, would they?
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And didn't we (the US certainly) used to sell arms to that nice Mr Hussein
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u know mate invading iran is gonna be one of the worst mistakes ever, i believe it will cause anarchy and terrorism like no other time before, its gonna make al qaida and the I.R.A, basque separatists and tamil tigers look like pussies
iranians can easily justify attacking other countries like the usa and their allies as they attacked iran, by law and moral talk, that is easily justified, coz iran didnt ever attack another nation, the usa, saudi and britain pushed even iraq tae attack iran via saddam , people forget that.
the evil regime of bush even declared the iranian army unit as terrorists , when in fact the evil bush and the zionist regime r responsible for the biggest terrorism and arms sales in africa and other countries
i hate the russian government but i understand now, the world needs a strong russia tae combat these evil american imperialists , china the government i hate , they need tae be strong as well tae combat the evil intentions of the usa
the usa is acting like the evil pharoah of old times in the prophet moses peace upons time, i believe God is gonna make a example of the usa and israel and their allies, it will be a bloody one if they dont change
whit makes me sad is these traitor muslim leaders in saudi, egypt and jordan who sit back and dae nothing tae stop the evil of the usa and in a racist way they hate the iranians and want them destroyed as they wanted hezbollah destroyed
saudi;s r a racist b@stard regime
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david did u watch the nared al bared camp war in lebanon a few months back the lebanese army vs the sunni jihadists , did u know they were created by the lebanese sunni and christians and also the usa and saudi tae take on hezbollah, but it went all bad and those jihadists turned on the lebanese government
their only a yr old, such r their evil plots
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david did u watch the nared al bared camp war in lebanon a few months back the lebanese army vs the sunni jihadists , did u know they were created by the lebanese sunni and christians and also the usa and saudi tae take on hezbollah, but it went all bad and those jihadists turned on the lebanese government
their only a yr old, such r their evil plots
their only a yr old, such r their evil plots
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I agree whit some of whit bro saladin ayubi is saying. Crimson jihad is mental bros, thae world war 3 is looming bros i swear and it makes me so sad bros.
Ameen tae thae n peace oot bros
Ameen tae thae n peace oot bros
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i think you gota see it from irans point of view. if i was from iran i would probably feel that if other nations are allowed nukes then why should iran not be allowed. And why should the USA be allowed to bully other countries into not having nukes. I am not surprised many eastern countries dispise the USA and it's allies, not surprised at all.
In an ideal world no country would have nuclear - they are pure evil.
In an ideal world no country would have nuclear - they are pure evil.
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i think you gota see it from irans point of view. if i was from iran i would probably feel that if other nations are allowed nukes then why should iran not be allowed. And why should the USA be allowed to bully other countries into not having nukes. I am not surprised many eastern countries dispise the USA and it's allies, not surprised at all.
In an ideal world no country would have nuclear - they are pure evil.
In an ideal world no country would have nuclear - they are pure evil.
On the other hand, could you trust that chap not to slip a "bucket of sunshine" on top of Israel if he saw his way clear, and what would that do with respect to WW3?
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Well you are perfectly right. Of course no country is going to give up nuclear weapons. As you say, countries want to keep them so they can retain the high ground in world affairs. And as far as slipping "buckets of sunshine" on to Israel, again, of course, there is no way to trust that that would never happen.
As i said, in an ideal world no country would have these terrible weapons but unfortunately that will probably never happen. It is far too late for that as countries like the USA are desperate to get their hands on oil from countries like Iran and it seems like the only way possible is to bully it out of them.
And as for WW3, it's probably inevitable isn't it
Wouldn't it be great if the whole world got along and we could invest are time and efforts in discovering new fuels, medicines, exploration, etc. for the good of all mankind. Here's to wishfull thinking
Well you are perfectly right. Of course no country is going to give up nuclear weapons. As you say, countries want to keep them so they can retain the high ground in world affairs. And as far as slipping "buckets of sunshine" on to Israel, again, of course, there is no way to trust that that would never happen.
As i said, in an ideal world no country would have these terrible weapons but unfortunately that will probably never happen. It is far too late for that as countries like the USA are desperate to get their hands on oil from countries like Iran and it seems like the only way possible is to bully it out of them.
And as for WW3, it's probably inevitable isn't it
Wouldn't it be great if the whole world got along and we could invest are time and efforts in discovering new fuels, medicines, exploration, etc. for the good of all mankind. Here's to wishfull thinking
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Religion is irrelevant to me - it's all about the humans, and what they do. Humans should stick together, and do the right thing at the end of the day - whatver their particular bl00dy religion label is.
D
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Well you are perfectly right. Of course no country is going to give up nuclear weapons. As you say, countries want to keep them so they can retain the high ground in world affairs. And as far as slipping "buckets of sunshine" on to Israel, again, of course, there is no way to trust that that would never happen.
As i said, in an ideal world no country would have these terrible weapons but unfortunately that will probably never happen. It is far too late for that as countries like the USA are desperate to get their hands on oil from countries like Iran and it seems like the only way possible is to bully it out of them.
And as for WW3, it's probably inevitable isn't it
Wouldn't it be great if the whole world got along and we could invest are time and efforts in discovering new fuels, medicines, exploration, etc. for the good of all mankind. Here's to wishfull thinking
Well you are perfectly right. Of course no country is going to give up nuclear weapons. As you say, countries want to keep them so they can retain the high ground in world affairs. And as far as slipping "buckets of sunshine" on to Israel, again, of course, there is no way to trust that that would never happen.
As i said, in an ideal world no country would have these terrible weapons but unfortunately that will probably never happen. It is far too late for that as countries like the USA are desperate to get their hands on oil from countries like Iran and it seems like the only way possible is to bully it out of them.
And as for WW3, it's probably inevitable isn't it
Wouldn't it be great if the whole world got along and we could invest are time and efforts in discovering new fuels, medicines, exploration, etc. for the good of all mankind. Here's to wishfull thinking
Les
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M - knowing this should maybe make you consider de-religiousising (did I just invent a new word there) international political affairs? Its all about power, borders and control (ohh and mabe some economics if I am putting it all in a nutshell!). The 'Umma' (global muslim brotherhood) concept only works when it suits power broking individuals. This is just like the million dodgy ignorant interpretations of the Qu'ran that make millions of the other dodgy and ignorant fear and despise Muslims.
Religion is irrelevant to me - it's all about the humans, and what they do. Humans should stick together, and do the right thing at the end of the day - whatver their particular bl00dy religion label is.
D
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Religion is irrelevant to me - it's all about the humans, and what they do. Humans should stick together, and do the right thing at the end of the day - whatver their particular bl00dy religion label is.
D
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lol mate im muslim till i die and beyond bros, saudi's arent religious, why would they sit back and see the injustices against muslims if they were true muslims, why would saudi, egypt and jordan oppress their pwn people if they were true religious people and they wont be sleeping around wae ****** either
true islam will prevail and cleanse these b@stards fae the middle east ameen and i wish i become a true muslim as well. jue like the warriors and caliphs of old, righteous, just and kind
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