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25 November 2007, 09:17 PM
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before owning a cat you should learn how much of an impact they have on the native animals of this country. they are wiping out birds, reptiles, and small mammals. most of which create food for native predators which are not upsetting the natural balance. next to humans they are the worst form of vermin. sorry for going all greeny weeny, i'm not a heather mills mcartney but they are having an ever growing impact on the native fauna of britain, grey squirrels, signaller crabs and the american crayfish included. keep it in as much as possible get a collar with a bell on it, let it out middle of the day when some of the natural beasts have already eaten. or add some quicklime to a carton of cream and give it to the cat agonising death but at least you will hear the robins singing.
25 November 2007, 10:48 PM
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There's cat paw prints on my bonnet - and im wondering whether they can actually stick a hoof thro the paint cos this might explian why i cant t-cut a particular pattern off such..
25 November 2007, 11:00 PM
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Wrong - how is a cat that has grown up in a domestic environment considered a wild animal? It may find shelter from rain etc, but its the cold thats the problem.
Domestic cats shouldn't be sleeping outside in winter temperatures. Let it inside, even if its shut in the conservatory/kitchen or something.
Domestic cats shouldn't be sleeping outside in winter temperatures. Let it inside, even if its shut in the conservatory/kitchen or something.
Its a wild animal thru and thru, just with an easy life. It still has instincts, it still has fur, and im pretty sure the plan is still to feed it. A cat is domesticated as a squirrel or pigeon that knows where and who to get food off. It knows whats good for it, so it obliges. Left alone, it can still survive.
Otherwise, where do stray cats come from?
Just because an animal lives indoors for a few years does not mean it cant survive outside.
If you took a cat that had been living outside for 4 years and let in live indoors, would it die of extreme heat and an overdose of attention.
A snake, a lizard, a hot counties spider... now thats another matter, but this is a cat for christ sakes.
25 November 2007, 11:01 PM
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What kind of retard infracts people due to a perception that the infracted dislikes cats?
I wonder if the Scoobynet powers that be are proud of the people that pay a membership fee and then use this permission slip to act like the Mary Whitehouses of the internet.
I wonder if the Scoobynet powers that be are proud of the people that pay a membership fee and then use this permission slip to act like the Mary Whitehouses of the internet.
25 November 2007, 11:08 PM
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Also, just to point out, its already be said he has shelter and a bed off the floor. If its a covered bed, and lined, its really not gonna need anymore.
Im sure the intention is still to give the cat lots of love and attention too, when it wants it of course.
Am I cruel to have a dog house outside for my dog to live in at night and some days? It gets fed watered and walked, and lots of attention.
Im sure the intention is still to give the cat lots of love and attention too, when it wants it of course.
Am I cruel to have a dog house outside for my dog to live in at night and some days? It gets fed watered and walked, and lots of attention.
26 November 2007, 08:27 AM
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It's a sad day when a good old cat thread cannot be allowed to run it's course without some cat lover with an infractor gun running riot.
Our cats wont go out if it's too cold - so there's no way I'd lock them out all night.
Not sure that it's cruel to be honest - It depends on the cat.
As others have said - If a cat don't like the way you're serving it - it will go off and find other servants.
Our cats wont go out if it's too cold - so there's no way I'd lock them out all night.
Not sure that it's cruel to be honest - It depends on the cat.
As others have said - If a cat don't like the way you're serving it - it will go off and find other servants.
26 November 2007, 09:57 AM
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We have a catflap in the garage door, and inside the garage (off the floor) is an old cardboard box with a couple of old jumpers inside. Cats have been there down to about -5C I think.
EDIT - Vets et al commented on how thick and good their coats were. Leave them outside (/garaged) all year and they'll adapt.
If you start now though, you'd have to train them to use a catflap and to show them where the new "bed" is a few times, I suppose.
EDIT - Vets et al commented on how thick and good their coats were. Leave them outside (/garaged) all year and they'll adapt.
If you start now though, you'd have to train them to use a catflap and to show them where the new "bed" is a few times, I suppose.
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26 November 2007, 10:04 AM
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I know my mate had the roof of his Renault 5 GTT scratched to buggery by a cat only a week after he bought it, was mint too and he couldnt T Cut that out either....
26 November 2007, 10:04 AM
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Another cat thread and the inevitable infractions.
Regardless of whether you infractees think you were being funny, you were bound to get infractions for your comments. The fact that your posts are being shown as unwanted means that not just the person doing the infracting was unimpressed. For the record, it wasn't me doing the infracting or clicking on the unwanted icon.
To answer the original poster, if the cat is clawing or whining to get in, you should let it in. If not, it is probably fine outside.
Having said that, I like cats (and dogs) and wouldn't make one live outside.
Regardless of whether you infractees think you were being funny, you were bound to get infractions for your comments. The fact that your posts are being shown as unwanted means that not just the person doing the infracting was unimpressed. For the record, it wasn't me doing the infracting or clicking on the unwanted icon.
To answer the original poster, if the cat is clawing or whining to get in, you should let it in. If not, it is probably fine outside.
Having said that, I like cats (and dogs) and wouldn't make one live outside.
26 November 2007, 11:04 AM
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Another cat thread and the inevitable infractions.
Regardless of whether you infractees think you were being funny, you were bound to get infractions for your comments. The fact that your posts are being shown as unwanted means that not just the person doing the infracting was unimpressed. For the record, it wasn't me doing the infracting or clicking on the unwanted icon.
To answer the original poster, if the cat is clawing or whining to get in, you should let it in. If not, it is probably fine outside.
Having said that, I like cats (and dogs) and wouldn't make one live outside.
Regardless of whether you infractees think you were being funny, you were bound to get infractions for your comments. The fact that your posts are being shown as unwanted means that not just the person doing the infracting was unimpressed. For the record, it wasn't me doing the infracting or clicking on the unwanted icon.
To answer the original poster, if the cat is clawing or whining to get in, you should let it in. If not, it is probably fine outside.
Having said that, I like cats (and dogs) and wouldn't make one live outside.
26 November 2007, 11:05 AM
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Question for the cat lovers among you (I am not one of these).
Miss Terror has a cat, since moving to our new home I have been adamant the cat lives outside. He has shelter from the elements in a green house where his bed is raised from the ground to make it as comfortable as possible.
Miss Terror has been nagging me of late that it is too cold outside for the cat and it needs to be indoors. I am not inclined to back down, dont like cats, and I sure as hell am not having this thing in the house.
Question is when is it too cold to have leave a cat outside? much as I hate old furry bollox I dont want him to come to any harm.
Miss Terror has a cat, since moving to our new home I have been adamant the cat lives outside. He has shelter from the elements in a green house where his bed is raised from the ground to make it as comfortable as possible.
Miss Terror has been nagging me of late that it is too cold outside for the cat and it needs to be indoors. I am not inclined to back down, dont like cats, and I sure as hell am not having this thing in the house.
Question is when is it too cold to have leave a cat outside? much as I hate old furry bollox I dont want him to come to any harm.
26 November 2007, 11:23 AM
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I find that amazing! If I caught one of my neighbours trying to "catnap" my cat, I would assault them. I'd even hand myself in to the police for it.
TBH, I don't like my cat being out all night. Not because he's cold but because he's more likely to get run over. Least thats my reasoning for it.
I like cats and I find those that have this out right hatred for them funny. I dont' like dogs and can't stand horses but I don't rant about it on the internet.
Dogs and owners, cats have staff
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26 November 2007, 12:11 PM
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Another cat thread and the inevitable infractions.
Regardless of whether you infractees think you were being funny, you were bound to get infractions for your comments. The fact that your posts are being shown as unwanted means that not just the person doing the infracting was unimpressed.
Regardless of whether you infractees think you were being funny, you were bound to get infractions for your comments. The fact that your posts are being shown as unwanted means that not just the person doing the infracting was unimpressed.
Didn't realise that ScoobyNet had become MrTiggyWinkleNet.
Infractions will be the death of this place
26 November 2007, 12:27 PM
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Also suggest the paraffin heater route. You'll get one well cheap from a gardner and it'll keep the greenhouse nice and warm for next to nothing.
Bubblewrap suggestion is another good one.
5t.
Bubblewrap suggestion is another good one.
5t.
26 November 2007, 12:42 PM
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Providing the animal has shelter, water and a regular feed they won't do anything as, oddly enough, it's perfectly acceptable and legal to house animals outside.
26 November 2007, 12:42 PM
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simply put in a catflap so they can come & go when they please. Allow them in the first room from the catflap ie utility room/kitchen at night and close any doors to rooms you dont want them to roam into during the day while you're at work.
26 November 2007, 01:04 PM
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26 November 2007, 01:12 PM
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I have three cats, a Bengal, a Siamese and a moggie X.
They all spend time outside, summer or winter. When I built the shed I lined it for me to keep warm when I work in there and to keep my kit dry, then I put a cat flap in it.
It's great for weekends, we have a feeder with a timer on it so they get fed and watered. It's quite funny watching them waiting for the timer to operate and unfortunately every now and then they get a thick lip .
The Siamese and moggie get nights in when they want but the Bengal stays outside.
From a wildlife angle the Bengal only brings home rats, pidgeons and the odd rabbit. No small fluffy stuff like sparrows and voles.
They all spend time outside, summer or winter. When I built the shed I lined it for me to keep warm when I work in there and to keep my kit dry, then I put a cat flap in it.
It's great for weekends, we have a feeder with a timer on it so they get fed and watered. It's quite funny watching them waiting for the timer to operate and unfortunately every now and then they get a thick lip
.The Siamese and moggie get nights in when they want but the Bengal stays outside.
From a wildlife angle the Bengal only brings home rats, pidgeons and the odd rabbit. No small fluffy stuff like sparrows and voles.
26 November 2007, 01:55 PM
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LOL
That Bengal must be a big bugger. I thought mine was quite big and he's only 2. He doesn't seem to manage anything bigger than small birds and mice.
My daughter is used to it now and if theres bits of animals left in the garden shes quite "matter of fact" about it. My wife however, does the hands in the air headless chicken routine.
That Bengal must be a big bugger. I thought mine was quite big and he's only 2. He doesn't seem to manage anything bigger than small birds and mice.
My daughter is used to it now and if theres bits of animals left in the garden shes quite "matter of fact" about it. My wife however, does the hands in the air headless chicken routine.
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26 November 2007, 02:41 PM
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Bengal cat magazine ..:: bengalcat.co.uk ::..
He really is a big lad and will stand up to dogs! His ancestors are a bit much too.
Bengal cats are the descendants of a cross between an Asian Leopard Cat and a domestic cat, originally Egyptian Maus, Abyssians or Ocicats amongst others. A first generation cross is called an F1. An F2 is the progeny of one F1 parent and one domestic parent (usually a Bengal these days) and an F3 has one F2 parent and one domestic parent. F1 males are usually sterile and F2 and F3 males also often have fertility problems. The early stages of breeding programmes are therefore usually carried by crossing female Asian Leopard Cat hybrids with male domestic cats. The fourth generation removed from the wild and beyond can be considered a domestic animal and is officially a Bengal rather than a Leopard Cat hybrid. Given that the breeding programme will have been explicitly aimed at producing good pets, the resulting Bengals should display the beautiful markings and unusual behaviour of the wild cats, whilst inheriting the domestic cat’s social nature and adaptability to human lifestyles.
Body length varies between 25 to 32 inches and they weigh between 7 to 15 pounds.
He really is a big lad and will stand up to dogs! His ancestors are a bit much too.
Bengal cats are the descendants of a cross between an Asian Leopard Cat and a domestic cat, originally Egyptian Maus, Abyssians or Ocicats amongst others. A first generation cross is called an F1. An F2 is the progeny of one F1 parent and one domestic parent (usually a Bengal these days) and an F3 has one F2 parent and one domestic parent. F1 males are usually sterile and F2 and F3 males also often have fertility problems. The early stages of breeding programmes are therefore usually carried by crossing female Asian Leopard Cat hybrids with male domestic cats. The fourth generation removed from the wild and beyond can be considered a domestic animal and is officially a Bengal rather than a Leopard Cat hybrid. Given that the breeding programme will have been explicitly aimed at producing good pets, the resulting Bengals should display the beautiful markings and unusual behaviour of the wild cats, whilst inheriting the domestic cat’s social nature and adaptability to human lifestyles.
Body length varies between 25 to 32 inches and they weigh between 7 to 15 pounds.
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