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Old 30 November 2007, 01:33 PM
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I think the riot police were there for her protection rather than breaking up any demonstrations!!
Old 30 November 2007, 01:38 PM
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So to clarify:

In the Sudan (as a Muslim controlled country) it's offensive to name an animal after a person, especially a prophet...

What about a chucky doll, that's a human form... so is that OK
Old 30 November 2007, 01:39 PM
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Where were all the protests outside parlement from us great whites, i mean brits to get her released?

I had work all week, or i would have been there
Old 30 November 2007, 01:42 PM
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Before ANYONE bitches about Islam, look closer to home at the fact kids arent even allowed to sing "Baa-baa-Black sheep" anymore... And you think they are crazy? Atleast its a Religious state and thus the relgious laws are made clear.. We are a bunch of PC brown noseing, spineless **** in this country.
Old 30 November 2007, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
Before ANYONE bitches about Islam
2 years too late
Old 30 November 2007, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
I for one think we should attack and flatten Africa.... I've never gotten over the slaughter of our brave lads in "Wild Geese" and Roger Moore was a complete star flying that plan while shot in the leg!

Feckin Africans have got it coming.... just give me one excuse!!
Yeah and they murdered Patsy Kensit
Old 30 November 2007, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
So to clarify:

In the Sudan (as a Muslim controlled country) it's offensive to name an animal after a person, especially a prophet...

What about a chucky doll, that's a human form... so is that OK
Used to be illegal to name your child Jesus many many moons ago in this country.. I think we are the ones that need to get a grip, its a different culture IN a different country.. Not our problem, we need to make sure that closer to home that people who come to this country respect our cultures internally, thats far more important!
Old 30 November 2007, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
Before ANYONE bitches about Islam, look closer to home at the fact kids arent even allowed to sing "Baa-baa-Black sheep" anymore... And you think they are crazy? Atleast its a Religious state and thus the relgious laws are made clear.. We are a bunch of PC brown noseing, spineless **** in this country.
I dont think you'd get 40 lashes for it though.

But you do make a good point, this country does need to gets its act together. I for one, use to love that nursery rhyme
Old 30 November 2007, 01:51 PM
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The nursery rhyme was obviously just an example, you cant speak a sentance in this country without some white, middleclass, sandal wearing lesbian taking some kind of offence..
Old 30 November 2007, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
Used to be illegal to name your child Jesus many many moons ago in this country.. I think we are the ones that need to get a grip, its a different culture IN a different country.. Not our problem, we need to make sure that closer to home that people who come to this country respect our cultures internally, thats far more important!
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The differences are poles apart; primarily that the UK is governed by a political party, whereby the Sudan (for example) is governed by a religeous party.

Therefore we (in the UK) have many sub-cultures with neither one nor the other being dominant, so there's competition internally between these various religeous cultures, all of which are vying for the top slot and support/recognition from the left (or right wing) government.

So its not that simple as to expect everyone that comes to the UK to respect our cultures, due to the imbalance caused between politics and religion as the two are at opporsite ends of a sliding scale.

There is no answer, as the various religeous groups feel no loyality to the UK or our political parties, only their own inward facing groups. So how can we ever expect people to respect our cultures when they aren't ours anyway and they/we have no respect for eachother.

The hard fact is that the UK is now multicultural and has long lost its identity the way holland did in the late seventies, its time to forget about being 'British' and 'ruling the waves' as that concept died around seven years ago!
Old 30 November 2007, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
LMFAO! I assume thats angled at me for starting the thread and one on immigrants. I think you will find there is a bit of difference between wanting the doors shut at Dover and someone being threatened with being shot because she called a teddy bear Mohammed No problem with her being deported from Sudan, she was silly for being there anyway but to say she should be shot just emphasises what a total bunch of freaks they are.
Errr, when was shot ever mentioned, I believe it was jailed for up to 6 months or 4 lashes, no death penalty.

I'm not condoning the Sudanese government, Islam or the penalty, but to expect a Brit to not have to follow their customs when we complain of foreigners not doing so here seems hypocritical to me. She chose to go there and break their customs, take it on the chin I say.

ETA: Ahh, I see, it was protestors saying she should be shot, not the government or courts, bit like the Muslim's in London saying behead the cartoonists then.

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Old 30 November 2007, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
She didn't offend anyone, and didn't insult anyone. The Children named the bear. There was a little boy in the Class called Mohammed, that was delighted the bear had the same name as himself.

Political. That's all this is.
That's your opinion. The Muslim's get pissed if you make images / idols in the name of their prophet, I'd have thought all the hoo-har in London over the cartoons should tell you that, doing it in a Islamic state is tantamount to pissing on the Queen.
Old 30 November 2007, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
doing it in a Islamic state is tantamount to pissing on the Queen.
Thanks for that visual reference
Old 30 November 2007, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Errr, when was shot ever mentioned, I believe it was jailed for up to 6 months or 4 lashes, no death penalty.

I'm not condoning the Sudanese government, Islam or the penalty, but to expect a Brit to not have to follow their customs when we complain of foreigners not doing so here seems hypocritical to me. She chose to go there and break their customs, take it on the chin I say.
The 'she should be shot' remark is from the protesters outside the jail i belive. Jealous peasants who love nothing more to hate the west and non-muslims.

And to say 'take it on the chin'? Are you kidding? She made a mistake in letting a child name a teddy after himself. She didnt use the koran as a door mat. Just a halmless mistake that should have been corrected by the head teacher.
Old 30 November 2007, 02:17 PM
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Feckin eegits. Course you can sing Ba ba black sheep, theres no law against it. Some of you guys want to take your head out of the sand (or is that the Sun)
Old 30 November 2007, 02:21 PM
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I shall prove you can....

"Bar, bar black sheep have you any wool...."

*the sound of footsteps outside DCI's office*

"Yes sir, yes sir....."

*DCI's office door slams open*

****!!.... help they're taking me awayl;ksjf' asjv; oia ja/dbm ,f ..........
Old 30 November 2007, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
I shall prove you can....

"Bar, bar black sheep have you any wool...."

*the sound of footsteps outside DCI's office*

"Yes sir, yes sir....."

*DCI's office door slams open*

****!!.... help they're taking me awayl;ksjf' asjv; oia ja/dbm ,f ..........

LOL
Old 30 November 2007, 02:23 PM
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We are obviously not wanted there, 10+ UK aid workers have been shot dead over the last 2 years and now this crap. Pull them all out and the £350 million pledged over the next 5 years as well. Respect is a 2 way street.
Old 30 November 2007, 02:26 PM
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It'll get far worse if anything happens to her in Jail. If it does, I'm going to name my bog Mohammed.

J.
Old 30 November 2007, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
any muslim non extremist
Now there's a contradiction!

What really gets me is we condem these barbaric regimes in these Islamic states, yet we let hundreds of thousands of their citizens settle in the UK as 'their human rights are at risk' in their home country - what about our human rights havings all these nutters living over here with us??
Old 30 November 2007, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
Before ANYONE bitches about Islam, look closer to home at the fact kids arent even allowed to sing "Baa-baa-Black sheep" anymore... And you think they are crazy? Atleast its a Religious state and thus the relgious laws are made clear.. We are a bunch of PC brown noseing, spineless **** in this country.
Don't get me started on that toss, it made me so angry when my nephew came home singing bah, bah pink sheep and explained that using "black sheep" was offensive I told him that it was not and that he should explain to the teacher that an offensive song would be something like:

Bah, Bah pink sheep, have you any wool?
No sir, no sir; the black sheep nicked it all!

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Old 30 November 2007, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
What really concerns me is the fate of the feckin BEAR!?! .....
The Daily Mash - MUSLIM TEDDY BEAR HAS PAWS CHOPPED OFF


MUSLIM TEDDY BEAR HAS PAWS CHOPPED OFF

SUDAN was facing international sanctions last night after hacking off the little paws of a three year-old teddy bear.

The cuddly toy was found guilty of blasphemy after taking the name of the prophet Muhammad, in defiance of the country's strict Islamic teddy-bear naming laws.

A spokesman for the Sudanese ministry of justice defended the sentence, adding: "This is an act of mercy.

"Our laws demand that blashpeming toys be stripped to their underwear and stoned to death before their bodies are thrown into the desert as an afternoon snack for the vultures.

"By removing only the paws of this infidel we are demonstrating great restraint. This is a gesture of goodwill to you Western devils and your pornographic governments."


He added: "How would you react if your child named a teddy bear after Jesus, John the Baptist or even Tom Hanks?

"Would you not decapitate the toy, thrash the child and throw the teacher off a cliff to be devoured by ravenous killer whales?"

The United Nations and Amnesty International have called for the release of more than 2500 cuddly toys imprisoned without trial since early September.

A UN spokesman added: "Of course, some may argue there is no point in us keeping all these Sudanese children alive if they can't even think of a legal name for a teddy bear."

The bear was named following a classroom vote, with 'Muhammad' chosen ahead of 'Paddington', 'Baloo' and 'Al-Hassan, the Terrible Golden Sword of Righteousness'.
Old 30 November 2007, 03:02 PM
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She has also been deported following her jail time. How, and who will ensure her safety between there and the UK? I'm guessing that if the protesters get to her she's not going to fare too well.

Will Britain step in to ensure her safety?
Old 30 November 2007, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Butkus
She has also been deported following her jail time. How, and who will ensure her safety between there and the UK? I'm guessing that if the protesters get to her she's not going to fare too well.

Will Britain step in to ensure her safety?
I vote that we send in senior members of the Labour party (dressed as giant bears) to escort her safely back to the UK
Old 30 November 2007, 03:13 PM
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I can see that working!

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Old 30 November 2007, 03:14 PM
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Pudsey says Sudan
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No self respecting sudanese nutter should be without one of these

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So wait a minute, a brief summary gives us

"Scouser sent to jail"

Nothing to see here, move along


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