cryptwalk

Simpson[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] Doh.

FLAT ERIC

iTrader: (1)

The saddest thing is,the more lights you have on,the more power you sap from de engine.As in more load on alternator = less load to wheely things.Same thing happens with your air con. if it does not have auto- shut off when max power(sorry)is called on.At tick over turn all your electrics on & listen to the engine change note.So all those exspensive mods to get those last few horses,and they shoot a couple with those COOL beams.Doh.
One last thing,rear fogs left on in town,wet screen lights up,brake lights masked,wet pants all round.

Mark

cryptwalk

Don't start on rear fogs, dam that's annoying TURN THEM OFF. All people who have them on when it's not foggy deserve a goog slap (Mr habgood your cue i belive) weather intentional or not.

Boost II

iTrader: (1)

On a clear day recently I came up behind a car with the rear fog glaring in my face. I was starting to get riled up, fueled by the rantings on Scoobynet just as sense kicked in. It was clearly not a max power car, probably a genuine mistake, infact I left my front fogs on after a misty spell last week and didn't see the switch was still on the next day. I know - I will flash my front fogs to let him know his rear is still on. Then shock, horror, I reach for the button to find my fronts are already on again - wotta tosser!!

mark_wrx

well if fogs bother u so much why dont u flag the car down and tell the driver and not us ..........+:

[Edited by mark_wrx - 1/14/2002 10:10:59 PM]

eyeMAJIC

Another fog thread.

MUPPETIZE!!!!

carl

Originally posted by McMiata Man:Yes, but have you ever tried driving through a built-up area with just your sidelights on? Everybody coming the other way flashes you thinking that you're in the wrong.

[Actually, it's not that you mustn't use headlights in built-up areas, just that you're not required to]

McCrash

A pet hate of mine too. I hate the tossers who do it because the only reason they have them on is because they think it makes their car look cooler for some strange reason - never quite worked that one out.

I always make a point of flashing my fogs at them and then flash the headlights to give them a taste of their own medicine. To be honest though, I'm getting fed up with it. It is actually illegal so the cops should go on a catching spree, they'd make a fortune in fines.

Hunk

I'm really busy right now so I'll post my reply on next weeks foglights thread... later

Gary Foster

I do find they dazzle me, I drive a lot of country roads and it totally knackers my night vision.

The problem is not the power, it's just they are not dipped like headlights are (ie they don't have a pattern that points downwards and towards the pavement).

Having them low I think just makes it worse, as for them to shine on the road at all they must be pointing nearly dead ahead (and therefore deffo not dipped).

Used to blast them with my PIAA's, but it was going to cause an accident so I stopped. Subarus seem to be the worst offenders not to mention having the brightest fogs. Ho hum. Must be an image thing.

MikesWagon

This better not make me late for the doc. on McRae!

How many of you guys who are not bothered with this wear specs? I have done since I passed my test, and I find that I get dazzled with lights anyway. These ***** don't seem to realise how bad it can be. As for ignoring it and looking at the road ahead, I'm sorry but it's so distracting I find that difficult.

If you drive around with them on all the time, you're not going to see the benifits if it is ever foggy (outside your head?). If you wore your jacket in the house, you wouldn't get the benefit when you go out. Apologies for that last remark, my mum must have typed it in while I wasn't looking.

As for stopping the car and pointing out the error of their ways to the other driver. I'm not build like a brick sh*thouse, and
don't fancy getting a good pummelling.

Driving in a built up area - again maybe due to wearing specs, I think a car with sidelights on in a streetlit road is bloody hard to see - it doesn't stand out.

Right that's me - almost missed the start of The Flying Scot.

Mike.

boomer

I spoke to an old biddy today who had just pulled into my local Waitrose with her front fog lights on. He excuse was something like how complicated all those switches were and she didn't know which one it was.

IF SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE CONTROLS THEN SHE SHOULDN'T BLOODY WELL BE DRIVING!!!!!!!

To me this is far more worrying than the fact that the lights can dazzle. There are too many people on the roads who haven't got the slightest bit of awareness as to what is going on around them [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Fog-lights in non-foggy weather is (nine times out of ten) a sign of a brain-dead driver!

mb

BaldyMan

Don't know whats goin on with you lot, but as a standard SPORT my fogs are dipped lower than the dipped headlights.

Got stopped by a road cop in the lite fog, asking why i had my fogs on, i preceded to tell him.

1 : it was foggy

2 : they are dipped lower than the headlights, so how can they be offensive toward other drivers.

3 : you get these little 'sports cars', saxo's, fiesta's, corsa's that all come with factory fitted 'spots' that come on everytime you switch the bloody lights on. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Do they get stopped by the cops, do they get flashed by other drivers.

Nope....

People see you in a proper 'SPORTS CAR' and get jealous, so what do they doo, give you a flash when they think you r doin sommet wrong.

Case closed, lecture over.

MikesWagon

[enable Victor Meldrew]
I don't believe it!
[/disable Victor Meldrew]

If these Saxos, Corsas and Fiestas have spots that come on all the bloody time, it's cause the ***** that drive them have the switch on, they're not built like that (awaits replies to the contrary).

Do any manufacturers build them so that the fog/spots have to be switched on each time the car is started again? Nah, that would be too logical.

Mike.

HamsterWheel

Driving with front fogs on is just so 80's, and hence only done by people who weren't around in that decade i.e. sad tossers whose ideal car is really an XR2 (no "i")

Toerag

Mikes wagon - The rear fogs on my forester are like the rear screen demister, ie. you turn it on, turn the engine off, turn the engine back on and the demister/fogs stay off. I just wish subaru would fit a light/buzzer to say your lights are on, I sometimes get home in the dark and just turn the ignition off. Next day I drive round with my lights on all the time. DOH!!
What really gets me is that on most cars the fog switch is somewhere that you can't accidentally switch it on, yet so many (non boy racers) do it. I flashed someone with their rear fogs on once, they turned them off, then back on again!! If I was a cop I'd do them for sure!! And to all those that say they don't get dazzled by them, try picking out a cyclist or pedestrian wearing dark clothes once a **** comes past with his/her fogs on. No chance, especially in the wet.

Tracey

Quoted by Kosy "but the cops will never do u for it i think".

Oh yes they will, depends what mood they are in, my husband was done a couple of years ago, fixed penalty. He dosen't usually drive with them on, he just knocked the button when he got in the car.

devils_ad69

BaldyMan,

The Highway Code states that fog lights should be used where visibility is less than 100m.

Funnily enough, the highway Cod never mentions actual fog, only visibility.

devils_ad69

BaldyMan,

The Highway Code states that fog lights should be used where visibility is less than 100m.

Funnily enough, the Highway Code never mentions actual fog, only visibility.

whip

My girlfriend's budget-model Pug 106 has the fog-light switch as a collar on the headlight stalk. Turn the headlights off and it also turns the fogs off.

Which is nice.

Round our way everyone seems to be driving round with fogs on, people carriers, saxos, repmobiles - you name it. Couldn't help but p155 meself the other week though when I saw a BLACK CAB with the fogs on! He was probably on his way to McD's, to pump out some kickin toonz...

Whip

David_Wallis

I drive with my foglights on when its not foggy... BUT..

Whoever had the car before me had them altered to come on only with full beam...

So I have them on when I have full beam on... whenever the road is empty... The more you can see the better... but people who drive in the dark with fog lights and sidelights on p1ss me right off.

David

wheelwright

Funny

dave_gt

I think that a fairly low to the ground car can look good with the fogs turned on (the effect is less pleasing on a little hatch), but few think of the consequences for everyone else. The reason so many people have the front fogs on is either;

a) They are not paying attention / dont know what fog lights are. I pointed out to a friend he had his fogs on in a xantia when it wasn't foggy. He genuinely thought they were just extra headlights. You often get hoards of front + rear foglights a few miles out of some fog.

b) They think it looks good, which it does, but most other drivers are not thinking, "Wow that must be a Le Mans racer," but "what a little moron in his Nova/Saxo/4x4/MPV/just about any car actually."

I am not an old fart (far from it at 22) and I really enjoy driving - hence me being a member of SN, but I also realise that a car is a lethal weapon and therefore anything that can be done, within reason, to improve road safety is a good thing. This includes turning off your fog lights.

The fog light beam is low but very powerful and flat - which is why it is good in fog - but that also means that it really does dazzle those infront of you. Please turn the bloody things off.

Scoob99

iTrader: (1)

I had a guy in a beemer last night doing this, but he was behind me, headlights full on and fogs too the prat, so me in my little Nova gave him the catch me if you can and he nearly hit a car coming the the other way trying to stay with me, the guy did not have a clue
Cheers
Colin

yoza

Keep them driving lights on boys........

They are driving lights and should be put on whenever your driving.

Later Yoza (fog light terrorist #1)

daiscooby

Let us be clear what we are talking about. Legal driving lights, correctly aligned, at night, ok not a real issue. But proper fog lights will blind you for a good 5 - 6 seconds and therefore are a hazard. There is a trend with the Max Power brigade in South Wales to put your fog's on and not your dipped main beams at night. Now that is just plain moronic and typical of the " trick " motor bunch. Are we saying that the Max Power mob are investing in Scoob's ?. I sincerely hope not.

Spoon

Haven't bothered to read all the replies so it may well have been said but I nearly always bang my fog switch on whilst turning the ignition key, it hardly takes a touch and you can quite easily not be aware they are on.

I always check the switch now when I start my car up.

scooby-new

As was mentioned earlier it's nice to give em a blast of your PIAA's and full beam. I'm especially fond of doing this if I'm parked up in a laybay so whatever accident occurs as a result of their temporary blindnessdoesn't involve me (unless its a really good one!).

edited because of early morning word blindness- some ****** must have been shining their fogs at me!


[Edited by scooby-new - 3/11/2003 6:20:36 AM]