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Old 06 December 2007, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Scotland
The track we'd race is Knockhill which doesn't have many straights, so maybe I should stick to beating him on a track as with a Scooby, presumably I'd nail him in the corners.
Not many straights, true, but if I can hit 105 on the straights in a 231 bhp Octavia, an R1 would leave you for dead. And apart from the hairpin, the corners at Knockhill aren't THAT tight.
Old 06 December 2007, 10:44 PM
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LetsTorqueBHP - Home

Go here and play with the calculator and see that you need to do a 10 second 1/4 mile.

I make it 900 - 950 bhp in a new age!
Old 06 December 2007, 11:21 PM
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500 BHP minimum.
Old 06 December 2007, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Paddi70
However for all the gobbing off I've done. At the moment guess what I'm using to travel to and from work.
And it sure as hell hasn't a credit card sized contact patch
Yup, crappy weather makes a big difference to the chosen mode of transport !


As I see it, we normally decide after many pages of posts that :
-Bikes are much faster than cars (except Formula 1 etc)
- A modded Scoob will win on a twisty, wet, bumpy surface.

Old 07 December 2007, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 95blackWRX
i was running wrx on 1 bar of boost i have not raced an r6 i think they are top of the 60 range i have passed a couple at about 130 to 140 on acceleration

i was saying as for beating a bike round track it depends on the bike the scoob and both drivers

and one last remark i cant believe you go to AVA biggest bunch of cowboys i have ever had the mis fortune to deal with u cant value your car much to go there

I never said i went to AVA, i said my mates cossie went there. As for you saying they are cowboys, my mates cossie holds the record for the fastest cossie running a T4 so they cant be that bad.
Old 07 December 2007, 12:33 AM
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I own this >>>

and a 500bhp scoob. <<<<< view my scooby

The bike is way quicker full stop. The problem with a bike is getting the power down whilst keeping the front wheel on the ground.

accelerate on a bike at 100mph and you'll just clear off from pretty much anything.

I've been up against 750's and a 1993 fireblade (900cc) in my car with average riders and their was very little in it.

I let a mate ride my bike whilst I was in the car and the bike was noticibly quicker.

A good rider will be way quicker than a good driver.

a good driver will be quicker than an average rider.

Its not just about the power its also about who's hands the power is in.

Thats on the straights twisties are a different animal all together!!!

Daz

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Old 07 December 2007, 12:42 AM
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Busa wins hands down


Old 07 December 2007, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by WR 1mposter
Busa wins hands down


Now that looks
Old 07 December 2007, 09:11 AM
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Only frame of reference when i/we know we were booting it was my (gsxr750) v Dazzas Atom V Brun's 300bhp scooby.

Went something like this:
me: *** thats atoms fast or i am spinning up here
Dazza: bikes keeping up here, bugger
Brun: guys, guys...helllo guys, where'd everyone go?

basically straightline ya got no chance.
fast a roads, no chance
smooth twisty b roads, 'arf a chance
wet, bumpy twisty, rutted b roads (admittedly thats most b roads in the uk)...all yours fella

Pud

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Old 07 December 2007, 09:24 AM
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Agreed ^^^^^
Old 07 December 2007, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by firstscoobdude
wrx doing 140mph hmmmmmmm , think your just about done m8 {surely your flat out } where as the modern superbike is spanking 180mph .
so until you can reach that sort of terminal velocity , i think uve had it .
had that car up to 154 racing with a bike, how many bikers are willing to go to 180 on the bike scary at that speed
Old 07 December 2007, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by P1 SUB
I never said i went to AVA, i said my mates cossie went there. As for you saying they are cowboys, my mates cossie holds the record for the fastest cossie running a T4 so they cant be that bad.
well we can let the rest decide i went to them because my boost was cutting back under acceleration. They done two hours on rolling road at 75 an hour then came back saying that my compression was too high. To fix this they would have to rebuild the engine and put low compression pistons it it at 700 for pistons and 2500 for rebuild that was going to take minimum 6 weeks

took it to someone who knew what they were doing they took out coils discovered a bit of dampness dried them off and the car ran great.

they are cowboys only thing missing from there yard was the saloon doors and a couple of horses


your mate may have fastest cossie but how much of the work was needed, and how much did they add on for themselves
Old 07 December 2007, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jockc79
had that car up to 154 racing with a bike, how many bikers are willing to go to 180 on the bike scary at that speed
Me!!!!

137 in third gear, also seen 184 a handful of times.

wanna race

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Old 07 December 2007, 09:35 AM
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just to add if a R6 is only a little slower than a BTCC car then you would need well over 700 bhp as zens car around all the TA tracks was a few s slower than BTCC times and he is well over 700 bhp
Old 07 December 2007, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pudders69
Me!!!!

137 in third gear, also seen 184 a handful of times.

wanna race

i would race with you just for the hell of it not got same car now tho
Old 07 December 2007, 10:43 AM
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i would race with you just for the hell of it not got same car now tho
It wouldn't be a race though - it would be complete annihilation in favour of the bike. As stated above, i tried to stay with pudders while in my 313/300 Scoob - waste of my time in every aspect of the word.
Old 07 December 2007, 10:50 AM
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the only bikes i have close race with are 600s to 650s i once raced a 750 i was up at 154 and he was bit in front only just managed to maintain the gap was not catching him tho
Old 07 December 2007, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Brun
It wouldn't be a race though - it would be complete annihilation in favour of the bike. As stated above, i tried to stay with pudders while in my 313/300 Scoob - waste of my time in every aspect of the word.

not exactley true matey....i needed somewhere warm to sit afterwards as it was fuking cold and dark that night and as good as the bike is it does need a heater or summink
Old 07 December 2007, 11:01 AM
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the only bikes i have close race with are 600s to 650s i once raced a 750 i was up at 154 and he was bit in front only just managed to maintain the gap was not catching him tho
In which case the 750 you were racing was not on the same planet as a GSXR 750!!!
Old 07 December 2007, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Brun
In which case the 750 you were racing was not on the same planet as a GSXR 750!!!
dont know what bike it was a honda something
Old 07 December 2007, 11:33 AM
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tbh guys the whole bike v car personal experience showed me one thing, my 7 year old 7fiddy was sticking with the atom and leaving Brun, so when folks in fast cars say they have had superbikes its bollox, as a new 600, let alone a thou, in a straightline at least would achieve what happened in our little race.

simply put either the rider wasn't trying that hard or didn't have the goolies to open it right up i.e. the bike should win 90% of the time, some folks THINK they have come close but it simply isn't true.

Which funnily enough was partially the point of my very first ever post....i may not have been that polite though, ooops.
Old 07 December 2007, 12:22 PM
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600's don't bother me in the car I'm quicker than them all day long.

750's and above and I struggle. As I said earlier, my car (450-500bhp) gets nowhere near my gixxer thou.

Daz
Old 07 December 2007, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jockc79
well we can let the rest decide i went to them because my boost was cutting back under acceleration. They done two hours on rolling road at 75 an hour then came back saying that my compression was too high. To fix this they would have to rebuild the engine and put low compression pistons it it at 700 for pistons and 2500 for rebuild that was going to take minimum 6 weeks

took it to someone who knew what they were doing they took out coils discovered a bit of dampness dried them off and the car ran great.

they are cowboys only thing missing from there yard was the saloon doors and a couple of horses


your mate may have fastest cossie but how much of the work was needed, and how much did they add on for themselves
Im said cossie owner and AVA built the engine and mapped it from the ground up. Its the most responsive and one of the most power YB's on the T4 turbo and it recently done almost 190 mph at bruntingthorpe so it proves its the real deal.

My advice to you is to stay away from AVA as they dont need clowns like you thru the doors anyway

Did this other place you took it too explain how a damp coil pack can cut the boost back? LOL

Ps....keep a wee eye out for a scooby that will be leaving AVA early next year...will be most powerful in Scotland second only to Andy F
Old 07 December 2007, 12:52 PM
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Another question...did the other garage you too the car to explain how a damp coil pack can cut the boost back??

I would love to hear itLOL
Old 07 December 2007, 12:59 PM
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it was cutting boost due to a mis fire fairly obvious. AVA have no idea what they are doing i think it shows how amatuer there outfit is when it is in the middle of a farmers field.

i doubt very much about the quick scooby leaving ava i will be amazed if it gets to end of road without expiring


total con men, think the guy once slept with a mechanic
Old 07 December 2007, 01:00 PM
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to ur coil pack comment u clearly know as much about scoobs as AVA
Old 07 December 2007, 01:03 PM
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In fairness, Scoobyclinic is in the middle of a farmers field
Old 07 December 2007, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
600's don't bother me in the car I'm quicker than them all day long.

750's and above and I struggle. As I said earlier, my car (450-500bhp) gets nowhere near my gixxer thou.

Daz
How bigs your turbo!!!

BTW, i think people are lOOking for you.
Old 07 December 2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
How bigs your turbo!!!

BTW, i think people are lOOking for you.
LOL it's a rotated Garrett GT3076R with a 0.82 housing

As for the looking for me thing. I'm not exactly hiding and can be contacted easily enough as my pm box has plenty of space and i'm on here several times a day !

The dazdavies thread has been responded to several times
Old 07 December 2007, 01:31 PM
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This is what happens when an R1 races a fast car:
YouTube - Bugatti Veyron vs. Yamaha R1 RACING DOWN MOTERWAY
It might cost a lot of money but as Andy F and others have proved, its completely possible to make an Impreza faster than the Bugatti (apart from top speed).


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