Can I beat a bike?
20 December 2007, 03:47 PM
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were any of those recorded with nitrous andy?Theres a certain garage not far from me planning on a c1000 bhp engine for an impreza for next year
20 December 2007, 04:00 PM
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Cool, 1000bhp in an Impreza will do around 230mph and a 1/4 mile in 8seconds at circa 170mph......... and when someone does that, then I'll believe they have 1000bhp 
I think the RCMS run was with nitrous, my top speed runs were without gas but most of the 1/4m runs were with gas.
I think the RCMS run was with nitrous, my top speed runs were without gas but most of the 1/4m runs were with gas.
20 December 2007, 04:03 PM
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funnily enough thats what i thought,especially when he was using an unlinered 2.5 block as the base for it lol and you'd be called to map it for them.But as you still (as of right now) have the fastest manual impreza on the planet i wouldnt be too worried 
20 December 2007, 07:25 PM
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Hi i have a scooby and a 03 fireblade 150 bhp 165 kg and after been out on my bike if i jump into scooby it feels slow and unresponsive its mad lol
But also have to say it takes a lot bigger ***** on twisties on a bike and would depend how big that particular bikers ***** are
Hope this helps
But also have to say it takes a lot bigger ***** on twisties on a bike and would depend how big that particular bikers ***** are
Hope this helps
20 December 2007, 09:33 PM
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Andy another thing i would like to know, how do stop your car from breaking down every five minutes ? as it's such a highly tuned engine. Also how many clutches were fitted 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 maybe ?.
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20 December 2007, 10:01 PM
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This season all the maintenance it has has is a set of head gaskets, I done a gasket in September when I was testing some 'funny' fuels 
My last clutch ran for 2 full seasons (triple carbon) I bought a new clutch for the 07 season and on recent inspection I found it is less than 20% worn.
It does require a certain mechanical understanding and very carefull mapping to achieve this level of reliability, some lesser powered cars are forever blowing up !
I will agree that a 9 second, virtually std spec bike is probably more reliable than your average (if there is such a thing) 9 second scoob.
There you go, you win
My last clutch ran for 2 full seasons (triple carbon) I bought a new clutch for the 07 season and on recent inspection I found it is less than 20% worn.
It does require a certain mechanical understanding and very carefull mapping to achieve this level of reliability, some lesser powered cars are forever blowing up !
I will agree that a 9 second, virtually std spec bike is probably more reliable than your average (if there is such a thing) 9 second scoob.
There you go, you win
20 December 2007, 11:52 PM
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Its also limited to 210.2 mph by gearing
21 December 2007, 10:17 AM
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It will do 100mph in 2nd gear on the taller tyres so just over 4 seconds, traction is a bit tricky in 1st but it moves once in 2nd
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21 December 2007, 04:40 PM
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It will do 100mph in 2nd gear on the taller tyres so just over 4 seconds, traction is a bit tricky in 1st but it moves once in 2nd
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21 December 2007, 06:10 PM
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It will do 100mph in 2nd gear on the taller tyres so just over 4 seconds, traction is a bit tricky in 1st but it moves once in 2nd
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Thats mental especially once it digs in, in 2nd!
What is your 70-130 time?
21 December 2007, 07:51 PM
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I don't honestly know Andy, there are so many BS power figures banded around these days that I'm sure it would be generally unimpressive !
21 December 2007, 08:33 PM
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A friend of mine works for Ecurie 25, the supercar club. I've had a race with him in a 997 Turbo and me on a modified GSXR 600 (110bhp approx). On a fairly straight A road I was a fair bit faster until silly speeds.
Modern sportsbikes are incredibly fast, even the little ones.
IMHO I looked way cooler too.
Modern sportsbikes are incredibly fast, even the little ones.
IMHO I looked way cooler too.
21 December 2007, 09:05 PM
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@ andy f , yes you have a fast scoob 
, but and its a big but !!!!!!
it aint ever doing 250mph { where as , road legal turbo / nitrous busas will , and are doing regular } and there also doing sub 2 second 0 - 60 s .
yes these are modded bikes but only at a fraction of the cost of your highly modded scoob .
. 1/4 Mile 8.272
ET 1/4 Mile 166.600
MPH 1/8 Mile 5.300
ET 1/8 Mile 137.050
MPH 0-60 Foot 1.401
ET CarYear1)suzuki hayabusa 1999
theres just 1 example pulled off the busa forum .
i hate comparisons { and the veryon vs r1 is ****e , cos the bike rider is a plank }
dont matter what stat you throw up , theres allways something quicker .
pound for pound it cant be done , 5 grands worth of hayabusa / gixxer /r1 - running circa 180hp
aint gonna be touched by any 5 grand car .
, but and its a big but !!!!!!it aint ever doing 250mph { where as , road legal turbo / nitrous busas will , and are doing regular } and there also doing sub 2 second 0 - 60 s .
yes these are modded bikes but only at a fraction of the cost of your highly modded scoob .
. 1/4 Mile 8.272
ET 1/4 Mile 166.600
MPH 1/8 Mile 5.300
ET 1/8 Mile 137.050
MPH 0-60 Foot 1.401
ET CarYear1)suzuki hayabusa 1999
theres just 1 example pulled off the busa forum .
i hate comparisons { and the veryon vs r1 is ****e , cos the bike rider is a plank }
dont matter what stat you throw up , theres allways something quicker .
pound for pound it cant be done , 5 grands worth of hayabusa / gixxer /r1 - running circa 180hp
aint gonna be touched by any 5 grand car .
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21 December 2007, 09:10 PM
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@ andy f , yes you have a fast scoob , but and its a big but !!!!!!
it aint ever doing 250mph { where as , road legal turbo / nitrous busas will , and are doing regular } and there also doing sub 2 second 0 - 60 s .
yes these are modded bikes but only at a fraction of the cost of your highly modded scoob .
. 1/4 Mile 8.272
ET 1/4 Mile 166.600
MPH 1/8 Mile 5.300
ET 1/8 Mile 137.050
MPH 0-60 Foot 1.401
ET CarYear1)suzuki hayabusa 1999
theres just 1 example pulled off the busa forum .
i hate comparisons { and the veryon vs r1 is ****e , cos the bike rider is a plank }
dont matter what stat you throw up , theres allways something quicker .
pound for pound it cant be done , 5 grands worth of hayabusa / gixxer /r1 - running circa 180hp
aint gonna be touched by any 5 grand car .
, but and its a big but !!!!!!it aint ever doing 250mph { where as , road legal turbo / nitrous busas will , and are doing regular } and there also doing sub 2 second 0 - 60 s .
yes these are modded bikes but only at a fraction of the cost of your highly modded scoob .
. 1/4 Mile 8.272
ET 1/4 Mile 166.600
MPH 1/8 Mile 5.300
ET 1/8 Mile 137.050
MPH 0-60 Foot 1.401
ET CarYear1)suzuki hayabusa 1999
theres just 1 example pulled off the busa forum .
i hate comparisons { and the veryon vs r1 is ****e , cos the bike rider is a plank }
dont matter what stat you throw up , theres allways something quicker .
pound for pound it cant be done , 5 grands worth of hayabusa / gixxer /r1 - running circa 180hp
aint gonna be touched by any 5 grand car .
21 December 2007, 09:15 PM
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Or, show me the bike thats quicker than a TF drag car to 300mph
Bottom line is car drivers are richer (and better looking) than bikers and hence they can afford to spend more than £5k when they want to go fast
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21 December 2007, 10:16 PM
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What I want to know is, does Andy have any plans to attempt to better that 210 mph if his car has some more power and less weight now?
I'm sure there are many thousand scoobynet members who would love to see that record broken........
Over to you Andy.
I'm sure there are many thousand scoobynet members who would love to see that record broken........
Over to you Andy.
21 December 2007, 10:23 PM
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I beat a Ducati 900 away from a set of traffic lights on the A4 in my standard MY99.
OK, perhaps the guy didn't know what he was doing and yes there was a horrid smell of burning clutch from my car, but I'll dine out on that story for years.
OK, perhaps the guy didn't know what he was doing and yes there was a horrid smell of burning clutch from my car, but I'll dine out on that story for years.
21 December 2007, 10:39 PM
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Oh and I'll be looking for a volunteer driver too because that speed in a scoob really isn't safe in my opinion
22 December 2007, 08:38 AM
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Fine a bike will lose vs an F1 car but watching F1 go round and round a track on TV is sooooooo duuuuulllllllll.
22 December 2007, 07:52 PM
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22 December 2007, 07:57 PM
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Just kidding btw.
25 December 2007, 12:26 PM
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Do some of you guys not know anything about Andy F's history, or Pavlo's (Zen Performance)? They are NOT backyard amateurs Their cars are hardly standard to say the least but the numbers are real.
I enjoy these bike vs cars debates but it's ultimately an invalid comparison. In standard road trim, a big bike with a good rider will mash any standard road car you're ever likely to meet, and under almost all circumstances.
But push it to the ultimate and no MotoGP bike could get anywhere near an F1 car, not even a tail-end Charlie
Richard.
Their cars are hardly standard to say the least but the numbers are real.I enjoy these bike vs cars debates but it's ultimately an invalid comparison. In standard road trim, a big bike with a good rider will mash any standard road car you're ever likely to meet, and under almost all circumstances.
But push it to the ultimate and no MotoGP bike could get anywhere near an F1 car, not even a tail-end Charlie
Richard.
Standard a bike is faster on all counts and takes more skill to ride.
Any **** can drive a car fast and you need copious amounts of money to make them even get close to bike performance.
25 December 2007, 01:26 PM
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i have an r6 and it makes my scooby feel slow and unresponsive, any one can drive a car fast but not every one can ride a bike fast. i have not came up a cross any car yet which has beat me or come close.
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25 December 2007, 03:57 PM
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i have an r6 and it makes my scooby feel slow and unresponsive, any one can drive a car fast but not every one can ride a bike fast. i have not came up a cross any car yet which has beat me or come close.
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25 December 2007, 05:20 PM
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Ducati 900 is the old air cooled pantah engine pretty ancient tech,but then the Ducatis desmo valve operation has been around for centuries it seems and still working fine at moto gp level..... if it wa the later 916/996/998/999 and all its derivatives that would be a better challenge,my superduke always seems plenty rapid the odd times i get out on it,but thats prob more to do with the feeling being all encompased in a car gives you.....