Turbo options?
12 December 2007, 02:53 PM
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yeah, tbh i'm not sure which is the better turbo. although i do think the td05 16 is expected to make slightly less (10bhp) than the vf34
price wise your talking £25 difference so bugger all
price wise your talking £25 difference so bugger all
12 December 2007, 02:53 PM
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My delta dyno graph with the VF35 conversionrun on about the hottest day of the year last year (cicra 35 degree abient temps) with non-optimal cooling i.e. the std MY99 interwarmer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...4/cc60eb74.jpg
As you can see, by about 2800 I have more torque than a std impreza has at its peak of 5.5k and more power by about 3800rpm. From these points it just keeps going to the redline. The graph drops off after 6k as the run was called off at that point.
Full torque/bhp available in first and second, puts the power down without issue. Believe me, not much short of a similarly tuned rice rocket or supercar has a chance against a properly launched scooby
It's a very responsive drive
Ns04
PS mine is a classic (i.e. significantly lighter), so prob equivalent in power to weight to a 350bhp new age
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...4/cc60eb74.jpg
As you can see, by about 2800 I have more torque than a std impreza has at its peak of 5.5k and more power by about 3800rpm. From these points it just keeps going to the redline. The graph drops off after 6k as the run was called off at that point.
Full torque/bhp available in first and second, puts the power down without issue. Believe me, not much short of a similarly tuned rice rocket or supercar has a chance against a properly launched scooby
It's a very responsive drive
Ns04
PS mine is a classic (i.e. significantly lighter), so prob equivalent in power to weight to a 350bhp new age
12 December 2007, 03:03 PM
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Ok cool so lets say there isnt much in the turbo's and either way I am going to hit 320bhp or more, and the same sort of torque!
What about the Ecutek/Other remap side of things?
Does the WRX (PPP) suffer from a dodgy map to begin with (other examples would be the Civic Type-R etc) which means that a remap even on a normal WRX with no turbo upgrade would make a lot of difference through the rev range, not neccesarily to peak?
Matt
What about the Ecutek/Other remap side of things?
Does the WRX (PPP) suffer from a dodgy map to begin with (other examples would be the Civic Type-R etc) which means that a remap even on a normal WRX with no turbo upgrade would make a lot of difference through the rev range, not neccesarily to peak?
Matt
12 December 2007, 03:05 PM
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it will need mapping, seem to be a few people claiming you don't need to but not doing so is a realy bad idea, the AFR will prob be screwed up.
mapping wise your existing ecu should cope of it will just need mapping for it
mapping wise your existing ecu should cope of it will just need mapping for it
12 December 2007, 03:11 PM
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Sounds like what I want then!!
Super, guess I just need to start the ball rolling so I will start picking up cheap bits and try for a turbo maybe Jan/Feb.
On the front of not knowing what I am doing - I take it there are fitters who will take parts I buy and fit them?
Do I need to think about anything like... hoses, fitting kits, baffles etc?
Matt
Super, guess I just need to start the ball rolling so I will start picking up cheap bits and try for a turbo maybe Jan/Feb.
On the front of not knowing what I am doing - I take it there are fitters who will take parts I buy and fit them?
Do I need to think about anything like... hoses, fitting kits, baffles etc?
Matt
12 December 2007, 03:14 PM
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tbh you may geta saving buy buying everything from one plae, if you go new parts, whats your budget for the mods?
p.s. you have looked at insurance cost increase etc havn't you?
p.s. you have looked at insurance cost increase etc havn't you?
12 December 2007, 03:18 PM
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£4000 still the budget...
Insurance, I pay £1300 now... I turn 25 in March next year which drops it a fair bit, plus erm, without being funny - Money isnt really a problem
I just saw this -
https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...-ihi-vf28.html
There is also a IHI VF30 - are these 'lesser' models of the VF34/5?
The above thread lists a possible 330bhp etc with mods... Anything worth looking at here?
Matt
Insurance, I pay £1300 now... I turn 25 in March next year which drops it a fair bit, plus erm, without being funny - Money isnt really a problem
I just saw this -
https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...-ihi-vf28.html
There is also a IHI VF30 - are these 'lesser' models of the VF34/5?
The above thread lists a possible 330bhp etc with mods... Anything worth looking at here?
Matt
12 December 2007, 03:26 PM
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shall post it on here, i don't work for em lol
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12 December 2007, 03:27 PM
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Here ya go mate.
Haywood and Scott Sports Cat DP (wrapped)
Haywood and Scott Decat centre section
Haywood and Scott Original Scooby design backbox
Ported and wrapped OEM headers
Samco turbo kit hoses
Simota Panel filter
VF35 Turbo
Walbro 255lph fuel pump, 3 port boost solenoid
Ecutek Remap
On Santa list:
K&N induction
Hybrid FMIC
550cc injectors
Should be good for a comfortable and safer 330ish bhp and similar torque
PS To the poster. You WILL need a map, even if the car runs without DET on th bigger turbo, the boost characteristics will be well below par. Mine felt as flat as a pancake on the way to the remap. Totally transformed after!
Haywood and Scott Sports Cat DP (wrapped)
Haywood and Scott Decat centre section
Haywood and Scott Original Scooby design backbox
Ported and wrapped OEM headers
Samco turbo kit hoses
Simota Panel filter
VF35 Turbo
Walbro 255lph fuel pump, 3 port boost solenoid
Ecutek Remap
On Santa list:
K&N induction
Hybrid FMIC
550cc injectors
Should be good for a comfortable and safer 330ish bhp and similar torque
PS To the poster. You WILL need a map, even if the car runs without DET on th bigger turbo, the boost characteristics will be well below par. Mine felt as flat as a pancake on the way to the remap. Totally transformed after!
12 December 2007, 03:32 PM
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VF34 only comes in the JDM STI V7 RA, normal V7 STI's had the VF30, basically the VF34 is a VF30 with roller bearings. 
Vf28 is i slightly older turbo found on STI 5 and P1's, think the spool sligthly slower then the VF34/35
VF35 is a VF30 with a small exhaust housing so quicker spool, less top end.
Haven't recieved a PM yet, mine won't be off the car till about the end of FEB, still buying all the new bits to go on my car
Vf28 is i slightly older turbo found on STI 5 and P1's, think the spool sligthly slower then the VF34/35
VF35 is a VF30 with a small exhaust housing so quicker spool, less top end.
Haven't recieved a PM yet, mine won't be off the car till about the end of FEB, still buying all the new bits to go on my car
12 December 2007, 04:03 PM
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My delta dyno graph with the VF35 conversionrun on about the hottest day of the year last year (cicra 35 degree abient temps) with non-optimal cooling i.e. the std MY99 interwarmer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...4/cc60eb74.jpg
As you can see, by about 2800 I have more torque than a std impreza has at its peak of 5.5k and more power by about 3800rpm. From these points it just keeps going to the redline. The graph drops off after 6k as the run was called off at that point.
Full torque/bhp available in first and second, puts the power down without issue. Believe me, not much short of a similarly tuned rice rocket or supercar has a chance against a properly launched scooby
It's a very responsive drive
Ns04
PS mine is a classic (i.e. significantly lighter), so prob equivalent in power to weight to a 350bhp new age
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...4/cc60eb74.jpg
As you can see, by about 2800 I have more torque than a std impreza has at its peak of 5.5k and more power by about 3800rpm. From these points it just keeps going to the redline. The graph drops off after 6k as the run was called off at that point.
Full torque/bhp available in first and second, puts the power down without issue. Believe me, not much short of a similarly tuned rice rocket or supercar has a chance against a properly launched scooby
It's a very responsive drive
Ns04
PS mine is a classic (i.e. significantly lighter), so prob equivalent in power to weight to a 350bhp new age
It seems our power at the wheels is quite a lot different (275 vs 236). I'm happy about that (not in a gloating way), as at least it eases my mind as to if the extra 11-1200 I spent on fmic and 20g over sti intercooler and vf34 was worth it
12 December 2007, 04:18 PM
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Hi Matt
If money isn't a problem then trade in the WRX and get an STi.
As you know, if you beef up one component, you will have to beef up another to compensate.
I'm thinking:
Gearbox
Suspension
Brakes etc etc
It's good fun uprating a WRX, I know I've done it. But I wish I had started with a STi as I would be a lot further up the power ladder.
If money isn't a problem then trade in the WRX and get an STi.
As you know, if you beef up one component, you will have to beef up another to compensate.
I'm thinking:
Gearbox
Suspension
Brakes etc etc
It's good fun uprating a WRX, I know I've done it. But I wish I had started with a STi as I would be a lot further up the power ladder.
12 December 2007, 04:49 PM
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If you were to just go for the STI, a similar year car would be able to produce your desired power level easily and give you a 6 speed box, brembo brakes, better suspension, stronger engine and all the 'mods' you are talking about are pretty much standard.
12 December 2007, 05:45 PM
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Then when you get bored of 330bhp in about 6 months you can fit an MD321H and a few other supporting mods and go for 400bhp without having to worry about the engine and box taking the power.
12 December 2007, 08:11 PM
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http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...sdon/Andy4.jpg
this is my vf34 running on a standard engine, up rated header, front mount, sti injectors fuel pump and a eboost 2 controler.
on the last rolling road i did it was just over 360bhp
this is my vf34 running on a standard engine, up rated header, front mount, sti injectors fuel pump and a eboost 2 controler.
on the last rolling road i did it was just over 360bhp
13 December 2007, 09:36 AM
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I've considered the STi route... To be honest I dont really wanna change car, I like the day to day of a WRX and since mine is an SL I get to roll on heated leather :P
I wont ever want more than 350bhp I know that from experience, there is only so fast I can go and I will always be limited by skill!
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I wont ever want more than 350bhp I know that from experience, there is only so fast I can go and I will always be limited by skill!
Matt
13 December 2007, 09:58 AM
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he said exactly what i did when i had the new turbo fitted to mine NS04 (whats your name by the way cos typing that is stupid lol), well i said it'll do for a a year or so untill i get bigger engine.
well its last 4 months and now i want more, booo hiss i hate having no money lol
well its last 4 months and now i want more, booo hiss i hate having no money lol